Home | Community | Message Board

Magic-Mushrooms-Shop.com
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
InvisibleAsante
Omnicyclion prophet
Male User Gallery

Registered: 02/06/02
Posts: 87,291
Euthanasia
    #7939174 - 01/27/08 06:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

An internet friend of mine had his beloved relative kind-of die yesterday.

Basically what happened is that his lungs collapsed while in the hospital, which was discovered too late.

At the moment he is as good as dead, and will never recover consciousness due to brain damage. The only reason he is not dead is because he is hooked up to life support.

Because Euthanasia is not allowed where he lives, his basically-dead relative will be kept on life support, with no chance of recovery or even consciousness, and will probably be transferred to a nursing home to basically be an unconscious vegetable on life support for God knows how long.

Sometimes dead is better, and if it weren't for the machines he would've died that day.

I can't get over how cruel this is, to keep his soul captive in a broken body, and to keep his family and loved ones frozen in their grieving process. His suffering is arguably over (but is it?) but his family will suffer all the more for days, weeks, months, or how long the doctors are planning to drag out this dying process.

Sometimes dead is better.

I think it would be best for all involved if his heart gave out soon because of the full life support. Release his soul. Release his family and loved ones. With nothing to gain and everything to lose - Enough is enough. His own body pulled the plug with no hope of recovery, the doctors should follow suit.

Euthanasia - the right to Die in Peace.

.
Euthanasia - where do you stand?
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from (01/27/08 06:03 AM) to (No end specified)
You must vote before you can view the results of this poll



--------------------
Omnicyclion.org
higher knowledge starts here

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleBurningBeard
The IncomparableMr. Flannery
Male
Registered: 01/23/08
Posts: 327
Loc: The bottom of the bottle.
Re: Euthanasia [Re: Asante]
    #7939198 - 01/27/08 06:30 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ah, ye old classic quandary.

I for one totally agree with you. The scary concept is to think just how plugged in (no pun intended) a person actually is on life support. How much are they aware of etc. etc. I always had this awful fear of being completely aware, but unable to communicate it to my friends/family. That would be the closest thing to hell I could possibly imagine I think.

I'm with you on this.


--------------------
Daedalus, your child is falling and the Labyrinth is calling.
Renegade heaps, humanity abandoned
Bower of the vowels, you lit them and fanned them.
Mercury, the courier, celestial messenger
Bed with Dawn, your bride.
Arrowhead of Diane, pierce the mind of a man,
Tongueless muse of time

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblePrisoner#1
Even Dumber ThanAdvertized!
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 193,665
Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutSuck
Re: Euthanasia [Re: Asante]
    #7939229 - 01/27/08 06:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
Euthanasia - the right to Die in Peace.




it's a sad day in the world when we euthanize animals to end their suffering
but we cant do the same for our loved ones that may be terminally ill, instead
politicians, lawyers and the 'religious right' have deemed it to be murder

My sister had an auto accident in september, it broke her up pretty bad, they
held her in intensive care for a week and she was recovering pretty well
considering the severity of the head trauma, 2 days after they moved her from
ICU to a normal room she had a stroke, she was brain dead but of course they
put her on life support. We honored her wishes by having them remove her from
the machines, she didnt want to be a burden to anyone, luckily we had that option.



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesupra
computerEnthusiast
Registered: 10/26/03
Posts: 6,446
Loc: TEXAS
Last seen: 12 years, 11 months
Re: Euthanasia [Re: Asante]
    #7939310 - 01/27/08 08:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

what is the country he lives in? Even in bass ackwards US we can take a family member off of life support if we choose/they choose not to be on it...

best wishes to your friend and his family

peace

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblevandago
 User Gallery


Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 20,928
Loc: .
Re: Euthanasia [Re: supra]
    #7939328 - 01/27/08 08:31 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

A similar thing happened to my grandpa, luckily they found out his lungs were collapsed before he was completely brain dead.

He layed there without oxygen for quite a long time, they thought he was a previous stroke victim ( he cant open his hands since birth and looks a little deformed ) so they didn't take any notice to him gasping for air and being incoherent......

"fortunatly" his wife wanted his money, so she didn't bother to tell the nurse he wasn't a stroke victim the entire time....once me and my mom showed up we starting flipping out as to why he was just laying in a bed gasping for air.....

He's probably only 1/3 as intelligent as he was before that.....

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRedstorm
Prince of Bugs
Male


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 10/08/02
Posts: 44,175
Last seen: 5 months, 8 days
Re: Euthanasia [Re: vandago]
    #7939413 - 01/27/08 09:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know about souls or anything like that, but if a person has no chance of recovering, they should be taken off life support. It is nothing but a waste of money and hospital space.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblePrisoner#1
Even Dumber ThanAdvertized!
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 193,665
Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutSuck
Re: Euthanasia [Re: Redstorm]
    #7939450 - 01/27/08 09:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

it's also a drain on the family emotionally and financially, if the family wishes
them to remain on life support then that's up to them, if the patients wishes were
to be removed or they have a DNR order, even the family should respect that.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRedstorm
Prince of Bugs
Male


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 10/08/02
Posts: 44,175
Last seen: 5 months, 8 days
Re: Euthanasia [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7939457 - 01/27/08 09:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleMOTH
Wild Woman
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/06/03
Posts: 23,431
Loc: In the jungle
Re: Euthanasia [Re: Asante]
    #7939482 - 01/27/08 09:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I believe in the right to die with dignity. I am all for euthanasia and depending how my life goes I may utilize the option one day.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleAsante
Omnicyclion prophet
Male User Gallery

Registered: 02/06/02
Posts: 87,291
Re: Euthanasia [Re: Asante]
    #7939528 - 01/27/08 09:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well, the situation resolved itself :frown:

Nature took over and his relative passed away last night despite life support. There was no suffering.

Rest In Peace.


--------------------
Omnicyclion.org
higher knowledge starts here

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineDiabloSmurf
Shake it.. Shakeit.. sugaree!
Male


Registered: 06/25/04
Posts: 1,177
Loc: Ohio
Last seen: 15 years, 9 months
Re: Euthanasia [Re: Asante]
    #7939555 - 01/27/08 10:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
Well, the situation resolved itself :frown:

Nature took over and his relative passed away last night despite life support. There was no suffering.

Rest In Peace.





Sadly that is a good thing to hear, My thoughts and prayers go out to that person.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleVeritas
 User Gallery
Registered: 04/15/05
Posts: 11,089
Re: Euthanasia [Re: MOTH]
    #7939566 - 01/27/08 10:11 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If you feel strongly about this, I highly recommend drafting a living will. You can give a copy to your doctor, have your local hospital keep it on file, and place it with your important documents in an envelope marked "in case of my permanent incapacitation."

Here's a link: http://www.uslivingwillregistry.com/forms.shtm

This is especially important if you know that your family disagrees with you about death with dignity. They will be the ones to make decisions for you when you can't make them for yourself.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemycopsycho
Tit Inspector.
Male

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 06/17/04
Posts: 3,712
Loc: Going Nowhere Fast
Re: Euthanasia [Re: DiabloSmurf]
    #7939570 - 01/27/08 10:12 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

whatever happened to DNR orders? people should think about this kind of stuff before going into a hospital. even if your only going in to get something as simple as an apendectomy done shit can still happen. doctors are human and can make big fuck ups sometimes.. on the other hand shit like what happened to your friends friend happens sometimes too.

sorry to hear about the passing though.


--------------------
I Am The Sickness.

Diploid: I think adults have a right to make stupid decisions and it's nobody else's fucking business.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblePrisoner#1
Even Dumber ThanAdvertized!
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 193,665
Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutSuck
Re: Euthanasia [Re: mycopsycho]
    #7939647 - 01/27/08 10:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

IAmTheSickness said:
doctors are human and can make big fuck ups sometimes..




doctors are human and sometimes their negligent as opposed to dilligent as in the
case of my sister, she was in the ICU for 3 days before they cleaned the blood off
from the accident, that was only after my mother ripped the attending a new ass
3 days later her close friend, a registered nurse with 20 years in the field
begged the doctors to do another cat scan and MRI because she observed that
something was not right, they decided to postpone it for 3 more days, she was
brain dead 6 hours later.

people dont understand why I refuse treatment from the medical profession, I'm
yet to meet a doctor that isnt a fuckup. I've met only one that actually
listened to his patients and only one that deviated from the norms of medical science

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemycopsycho
Tit Inspector.
Male

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 06/17/04
Posts: 3,712
Loc: Going Nowhere Fast
Re: Euthanasia [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7939653 - 01/27/08 10:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

IAmTheSickness said:
doctors are human and can make big fuck ups sometimes..




doctors are human and sometimes their negligent as opposed to dilligent as in the
case of my sister, she was in the ICU for 3 days before they cleaned the blood off
from the accident, that was only after my mother ripped the attending a new ass
3 days later her close friend, a registered nurse with 20 years in the field
begged the doctors to do another cat scan and MRI because she observed that
something was not right, they decided to postpone it for 3 more days, she was
brain dead 6 hours later.

people dont understand why I refuse treatment from the medical profession, I'm
yet to meet a doctor that isnt a fuckup. I've met only one that actually
listened to his patients and only one that deviated from the norms of medical science




yeah i've only met one dilligent doctor and he was a family practitioner anways so its not like he got into surgery or anything.


--------------------
I Am The Sickness.

Diploid: I think adults have a right to make stupid decisions and it's nobody else's fucking business.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblePrisoner#1
Even Dumber ThanAdvertized!
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 193,665
Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutSuck
Re: Euthanasia [Re: mycopsycho]
    #7939662 - 01/27/08 10:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

a disclaimer on a medical for for one hospital actually stated "medicine is not
an exact science" and went to say that inaccurate diagnosis' are fairly common

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemycopsycho
Tit Inspector.
Male

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 06/17/04
Posts: 3,712
Loc: Going Nowhere Fast
Re: Euthanasia [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7939675 - 01/27/08 10:52 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

medicine is not an exact science? you would think that after all the money people spend to go to college for it and all the years that they have to go you woudl THINK that its an exact science by now. thats a very disheartening thing to see on a fucking medical bill/statement. doctors have never really had my respect considering they take the doctors oath yet their main drive is always money. utter BS.


--------------------
I Am The Sickness.

Diploid: I think adults have a right to make stupid decisions and it's nobody else's fucking business.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Euthanasia - where does the Shroomery stand?
( 1 2 all )
Asante 3,696 37 04/02/09 08:15 PM
by doom876
* Euthanasia for obssesed Obama supporters? AmericanPsycho 402 3 11/07/08 06:58 AM
by blewmeanie
* Euthanasia in Holland AmericanPsycho 381 2 03/04/09 07:43 PM
by trauma47645
* .
( 1 2 3 4 all )
Beege 6,700 72 01/08/09 10:19 PM
by Crasher
* No More Doctor Shopping In Ohio daimyo 4,451 4 02/16/12 02:11 PM
by badchad
* Is there a doctor in the house?
( 1 2 3 all )
EffedS 5,725 56 08/07/08 02:08 AM
by zouden
* Doctors pfxtc 1,111 12 08/26/09 01:43 AM
by niteowl
* Fess up: how many of you have forged a doctors note for work/school?
( 1 2 all )
MOTH 2,003 23 06/27/05 02:50 PM
by Krishna

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Entire Staff
2,232 topic views. 1 members, 25 guests and 72 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.047 seconds spending 0.027 seconds on 19 queries.