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Is there a doctor in the house?
#8657091 - 07/19/08 11:23 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I'm going to make this as short and sweet as I can make something as long and sour as this is for me.
My son Ethan is a great kid, he is active and fun. He is two and a half now.
We have been battling him being sick since he was about ten months old. At first it just seemed like normal cold/flu symptoms. Though he did have bouts with the cold and flu many times in his life that is normal. The problem is I can't remember two "good" weeks passing since ten months that he has had. His biggest problem is vomiting, he does it three to seven days out of the week and as many as one to five times per day. This is of the most concern as he is damaging his esophagus with each time he vomits. They said he has acid reflux which is causing this. They also have him on Asthma medication, he coughs (mostly at night) pretty violently at times. Most of the time he has a coughing fit it escalates to a dry heave. He is very prone to vomiting so the coughing brings it up too.
That is a very light background as to how he is symptom wise, I just gave the two major items of concern.
So for over a year and a half now I have been dealing with seeing my baby constantly sick, cleaning up vomit at 2 AM, and relentless doctors bills. All this has aided in ruining the already rocky relationship of five years that I had with my (ex) girlfriend. For the record Elise and I are no longer together, we've been trying to work it out but going on six months now I don't know if will ever get better. She only came to the gathering this year because we still hang out a bit.
So Ethan has been through three pediatricians, which I think is part of the delay in finding out what is wrong with him. As he went from doctor to doctor they only saw a kid with cold/flu symptoms each time, even though we explained to them how long it had been going on and frequent his vomiting was.
Now he is seeing 3 specialists; Ear Nose and Throat, Immune, and a Gastro Intestinal. We are making progress is seems, but I wish it were faster. I know my kid could be a lot sicker and others have it way worse. I can't imagine what it must be like. This seems like more of an inconvenience than life threatening but how accurate that statement is I don't even know. I just want my damn kid to get healthy and grow like normal, he is not getting the proper nutrition with all this puking, and while the doctors get their bills paid and are sleeping well, I am going broke and staying up scrubbing puke!
Whats crazy is that I have supposedly great health care and that has helped with making it cheaper, it hasn't helped my son get better. I can't blame the industry for my son being sick but I can blame it for being so lackluster and overpriced.
Its funny I work construction, if I say I can do a job and I mess it up or don't do the work... its simple, I don't get paid! These doctors have a guarantee to get paid whether they do well or not. Is it fair? There is always that sue factor too, and boy you can tell how gun shy they are due to that.
Kinda a rant/call for help/update.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8657097 - 07/19/08 11:28 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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He is a very cute little boy...i hope that he gets better, i can see the love and hear the love that you have for him. you will be in my thoughts and prayers that everything turns out fine.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: rugergirl79]
#8657120 - 07/19/08 11:40 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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You have a beautiful son, I hope the best for him man
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8657125 - 07/19/08 11:42 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know in a way what you've been through. And I wish you all the best of luck. I'm assuming you're American? One of the things that makes me proud to be Canadian is the only reason i'm still alive is our health care system.
My perspective was different, I was the one who was ill, when I was 7 I had ulcerative colitis, i was bleeding so heavily internally that even with daily transfusions i'd lost 40% of my haemoglobin.
All I can say is pulling through made me closer to my family and appreciate life a hell of a lot more.
I won't try and put into words how you would feel..as i imagine its hardly describable. I wish you the best of luck and your son a quick mend, and hopefully some good will come of it.
Hearing stories like these make me feel pretty blessed to have the doctor's i've had/have. The fact that they ignore what you're saying is pretty disgusting in my opinion.
A simple suggestion, and i'm not sure how helpful/if at all helpful it would be. One to pose to your doctor (Its my intentions to go to med school...but thats a ways off) would your son taking maybe a small dosage of a basic substance help with potential esophagus damage as the acidity would be lower?
Once again, best of luck and keep us posted.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Dude96]
#8657131 - 07/19/08 11:44 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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He is on Prevacid right now for the acid reflux. It has reduced his vomiting by about 50%~.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Dude96]
#8657137 - 07/19/08 11:45 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't know though if that will reduce the damage that may be occurring.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8657152 - 07/19/08 11:50 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea = /.
Is that vomitting just an odd gag reflex or is it when he eats or drinks?
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8657161 - 07/19/08 11:53 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm no doctor, but I love medicine and read a lot about it and have a lot of friends in med school... I'll try my best to help...
Alright, most important topic first, thats Ethan. I know he's getting older, do the symptoms seem to be fading or getting worse? When I was a baby, I had constant ear infections and had horrible asthma. Now I haven't had an ear infection since I was about 5. And I smoke a pack a day (not proud of that), so obviously I don't have asthma. Point of me telling you that is that he might out grow it.
Health problems seem to be pretty common in maturing children/adolescents. Most of the time they grow out of it.
Since you have insurance I would get Ethan to a rheumatologist ASAP. A rheumatologist is a doctor that specializes in the immune system and problems with the immune system. Rheumatologists at research universities tend to be the best, they're up on current literature in their field. Finding a doctor you trust, like, and believe is another story. I know a thing or two about immuno problems, you should shoot me a PM or talk to me on AIM. Or if you're on IRC let me know and I'll log on.
Lastly, I'm sorry to hear about you and Elise are going through some rough times. You guys definitely seemed different as far as you two interacting goes. Elise seemed to enjoy being there at times then at other times wasn't too enthused with the gathering.
Again if you hit me up via PM/AIM/IRC I can tell you about my experience with relationship issues. I've never had a child involved, but my story might help you out.
You can even give me a call if you want, I think you have my number
If we don't talk further, good luck man. I'm sending my best vibes to you and Ethan.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Gumby]
#8657170 - 07/19/08 11:58 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gumby said: I'm sending my best vibes to you and Ethan.
He's speaking for all of us there.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Entropymancer]
#8657179 - 07/20/08 12:01 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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agreed!!! much love from the shroomery!!!
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Gumby]
#8657182 - 07/20/08 12:01 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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THanks for the help, yeah my father seems to think he will outgrow it. That would be great.
His symptoms seem to have stayed steady for the past two months, we'll think hes getting better though and then he'll get worse. My friend who is a doctor recommended a rheumatologist also and we are definately going to mention that. He has been tested for immunity and he did have low numbers on some of the cells.. I don't remember the letters off hand T&C?
I don't have your number.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8657194 - 07/20/08 12:07 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Effed said: He is on Prevacid right now for the acid reflux. It has reduced his vomiting by about 50%~.
first, have they done an H.Pylori test?
if not it sounds like the lower esophageal sphincter muscles may be weak, one thing talk to the doctards about aciphex, it reduces the amount of acid the stomach produces, like prevacid it's a proton pump inhibitor, it's more effective that prevacid, also you may need to discuss laparoscopic fundoplication with him, it's really a minor surgery, minimal discomfort afterwards and it should help tremedously, having him on meds most of his childhood should be a last resort... if his esophagus does start to erode the next thing they'll be prescribing is pain killers
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8657217 - 07/20/08 12:16 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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No but my friend (doctor) did mention that I get him an H.Pylori test. I'm taking everything right now, thanks that post seems like sound advice! I hate having my son on these meds!
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8657221 - 07/20/08 12:18 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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My guess would be that his ANA (antinuclear antibodies) count is high. That's usually the first indicator of an immune deficiency.
This list might suck but here are a few things I suspect could be the problem:
Hiatal hernia. Very common problem. Not so much in younger kids though. A hiatal hernia is where the esophagus develops a hernia right above the sphincter muscles of the stomach. Acid reflux goes hand in hand with hiatal hernias. I would know, I have one. Sucks. I take either 40mg of Omeprazole (Prilosec) to control it, works well. You should see if doctors will do that for Ethan. That should help him out, but I have no clue how the drug works on toddlers or what the dose should be. When my reflux gets bad enough I'll take Protonix, which is an UBER expensive proton pump inhibitor (prevents acid reflux by shutting down cells that produce stomach acid [HCl])
My next guess is some sort of immuno problem. It's really hard to say though because he's so young. Immuno problems that you should get him tested for are: Rheumatoid Arthritis, Lupus, Fibromyalgia, and Leukemia.
There are several genetic tests they can do for various Rheumatoid disorders now, so make sure to ask the rheumatologist about the genetic tests. I just had one show up positive and was fucking amazed that no doctor had tested me for it before.
Also get him checked for IBS, Chrons, and Ulcerative Colitis. Although if he had UC you'd probably know it by now. He would have a lot of trouble keeping weight on and would have blood in his stools (pay very careful attention to stools if he's having a gastrointestinal issue).
Strange but relevant question, does he seem to be developing cognitively the same as other kids his age? That could make a big difference in what the issue is...
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8657227 - 07/20/08 12:20 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Effed said: No but my friend (doctor) did mention that I get him an H.Pylori test. I'm taking everything right now, thanks that post seems like sound advice! I hate having my son on these meds!
If he was infected with H. Pylori and had an ulcer, you'd know it. Been there, done that, it sucks balls. I threw up blood for 2 days. My stools were BLACK, oily and smelled like a combo of shit + death.
Trust me, if Ethan had an ulcer, you'd know it. Anything food that has a pH of less than 6.5 would probably make him cry like crazy. Ulcers are not something you can brush off or "deal with" usually.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Gumby]
#8657228 - 07/20/08 12:22 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cognitively he is doing well hes smart like his daddy
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8657229 - 07/20/08 12:23 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good to hear. He has a great roll model
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8657232 - 07/20/08 12:27 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Effed said: No but my friend (doctor) did mention that I get him an H.Pylori test. I'm taking everything right now, thanks that post seems like sound advice! I hate having my son on these meds!
the H.Pylori tests are fairly noninvasive, a stool sample or a blood antibody test, the latter can take as little as 5 minutes to get back and the pylori bacteria is one that's persistent, treatment is with an antibiotic regime that could go for more than a month, you can try a little something now that may help and that's green tea extract, maybe mix it with some green tea for taste, in korea they've found an acidic polysaccaride that seems to inhibit the adhesion of H.Pylori, it's cheap enough to try and wont cause any harm if he doesnt have it
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8657238 - 07/20/08 12:29 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Amen! The holistic approach, I almost trust it more sometimes. Don't understand why the insurance companies don't cover it. It certainly is way cheaper. Thats a conspiracy for another time.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Gumby]
#8657241 - 07/20/08 12:32 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gumby said: Trust me, if Ethan had an ulcer, you'd know it.
pylori and ulcers dont always go hand in hand, often times people diagnosed with gastritis have an H.Pylori infection that's missed black stool (smell included) is from blood that's passed through the intestines, that comes from ulcers, pylori alone doesnt cause the problem
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8657248 - 07/20/08 12:34 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Effed said: Amen! The holistic approach, I almost trust it more sometimes.
you may be surprised to know that a lot of western doctors are turning to eastern medicines, they've worked for thousands of years with about the same results that western medicines do
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8657259 - 07/20/08 12:38 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I might have missed it but were they able to pinpoint the actual cause of why it's happening or been able to determine exactly what illness he has? Sounds like gastritis but the way you say it's been going on over a long period of time sounds like some chronic infection..
I'm also in agreeance with the holistic approach, I trust it way more than I would feeding my kid (if I had one), a bunch of pharms. Or any of my loved ones for that matter. I would look into chinese herbs. There are many herbs that have documented use of thousands of years of safe use for treating illnesses like this... also, what kind of diet is he eating.. if he is even able to keep it down half the time? Have you tried ginger and green tea? That may not solve the problem but it would certainly help soothe the digestive tract..
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Shroomism]
#8657271 - 07/20/08 12:40 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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No, thats just it they haven't given a diagnosis other than acid reflux. They are just treating symptoms right now.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Shroomism]
#8657279 - 07/20/08 12:45 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Man, sorry to hear about this dude. I hope it is sorted out soon, I cant say I can relate but I can only imagine how concerning something like this could be. Best wishes man
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8657296 - 07/20/08 12:55 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Effed, call neuro. I bet he could give you good advice. He is home right now.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8657304 - 07/20/08 12:57 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Effed said: They are just treating symptoms right now.
herein lies my biggest problem with western medicine
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: automan]
#8657308 - 07/20/08 12:58 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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automan said: Effed, call neuro. I bet he could give you good advice. He is home right now.
Funny you say that, I was going to give him a call tomorrow to see what he thought about this.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8657312 - 07/20/08 01:00 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's the problem with a lot of modern medicine... treat the symptoms and not the root of the problem.. doesn't solve anything.
Anyway... if it is indeed acid reflux. (or really any degenerative illness of the digestive tract)... there are several herbal combinations I would highly recommend you look into.. but most especially
Slippery Elm - Demulcent, emollient, expectorant, diuretic, nutritive. HIGHLY nutritious. Is considered one of the most valuable remedies in herbal practice, the abundant mucilage it contains having wonderfully strengthening and healing qualities especially in that of the stomach and digestive tract. I have heard many wonderful stories about this bark and it's amazing healing properties on the stomach.
"It not only has a most soothing and healing action on all the parts it comes in contact with, but in addition possesses as much nutrition as is contained in oatmeal, and when made into gruel forms a wholesome and sustaining food for infants and invalids. It forms the basis of many patent foods."
Chamomile - anodyne, anti-inflammatory, antispasmodic, nervine, sedative, stomachic, tonic, vasodilatory. Chamomile is renowned for its anti-inflammatory and antispasmodic properties, and can be used to treat an amazingly wide variety of conditions, it is a very excellent general tonic.
Cayenne - anti-inflammatory, antioxidant, antiseptic, diuretic, analgesic, expectorant, and diaphoretic. This may seem counter-intuitive, but cayenne is an AMAZING healing herb. It stimulates blood flow throughout the entire body, strengthens the heart and arteries, is known to improve overall digestion and the entire circulatory system, it also acts as one of the best herbal stimulants and is very high in antioxidants. Due to it's properties as a blood-mover.. when used in combination with other herbs.. it has a synergistic effect and can often increases the potency and effectiveness of other herbs. Cayenne is a miracle herb as far as I'm concerned.. it's good for everything.
Those are the top three herbs I would recommend you look into. Alfalfa, Dandelion and Agrimony would also be very much worth looking into..
Also as prisoner said, green tea especially.. and other herbal teas could be of great help.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Shroomism]
#8657323 - 07/20/08 01:05 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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If he has acid reflux, Cayenne is a bad idea. Especially if he is vomiting. You can take the capsules just fine, but when you throw up, your entire esophagus is on fire as well as your mouth a nose. Capsaicin + mucus membranes = ow.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Gumby]
#8657325 - 07/20/08 01:07 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good point.. I wasn't really thinking of that. Cayenne may be a bad idea in that case.. Slippery elm and chamomile though, could be of great help.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Shroomism]
#8657336 - 07/20/08 01:11 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Other herbs that could help:
Aloe Vera Gel (internally of course,.) Licorive Root Apple Cider Vinegar (NOT acidic to the body.. actually will help to alkalize the system)
Also a common chinese herbal treatment for acid reflux was green tea w/ kombucha..
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Shroomism]
#8657341 - 07/20/08 01:12 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Im gonna start making up some witches brews!
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Gumby]
#8657344 - 07/20/08 01:14 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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automan said: Effed, call neuro. I bet he could give you good advice. He is home right now.
Funny you say that, I was going to give him a call tomorrow to see what he thought about this.
you should give him a call anyways to ask about his shoulder
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Gumby]
#8657348 - 07/20/08 01:18 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gumby said: If he has acid reflux, Cayenne is a bad idea. Especially if he is vomiting. You can take the capsules just fine, but when you throw up, your entire esophagus is on fire as well as your mouth a nose. Capsaicin + mucus membranes = ow.
dont be to quick to jump on the capsaicin = bad for stomach illnesses, while I agree it's not good when vomiting is involved, especially with one so young, the last couple of years have seen it used in the treatment of ulcers and other gastric distress
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: automan]
#8657350 - 07/20/08 01:18 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I talked to him the other day, his shoulder seems fine. A bit painful, but that's to be expected.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8657351 - 07/20/08 01:18 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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damn effed...i cant believe your son is already 2 and half years old....man it has been waaay too long. You have a beautiful son there though!
sorry man i have no advice...only good vibes to send you guys
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Gumby]
#8657354 - 07/20/08 01:20 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just did some reading and a lot of people with Acid Reflux and other gastric disorders, a lot of them recommend using cayenne It's not an irritant.. it's a stimulant, it increases the function of whatever part of the body it comes in contact with, and it's especially good for the digestive system. A lot of people use it to treat everything from acid reflux to ulcers... I don't think small amount of capsaicin would be harmful even if vomited.. it may burn but so does stomach acid. Don't confused burning of capsaicin with damage though.. it is an extremely potent healing herb. If taken capsules it should probably be diluted with a lot of water as a little cayenne goes a long way. I don't know if it's the best thing for children but it's certainly safe
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Shroomism]
#8657364 - 07/20/08 01:27 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Also worth noting - a lot of these gastric conditions can be due to food allergies or chronic overly acidic PH conditions in the body. You could try eliminating several possible food allergies one by one and see if anything improves.. dairy, gluten, corn, etc.
Also try and focus on giving him more alkaline foods in his regular diet to try and balance his PH.. an overly acidic condition could be the direct cause of it (it is often the cause of many illnesses..) Try and feed him much less acidifying foods and more alkalizing ones..
http://www.essense-of-life.com/moreinfo/foodcharts.htm
Notice that all the herbs that have been recommended are on the alkalizing side. Interestingly enough... all the drugs the doctors put them on are on the acidifying side....
Hope that's some help. I've been studying holistic medicine for the better part of 10 years now since that's what I have to rely on if I ever get sick... I don't trust the modern medical industry unless it's to perform surgery on me if my leg falls off or something. Heroic medicine. Treat the symptoms of something broken = fix whatever is broken. When it comes to degenerative and chronic illnesses.. they have no idea what they are doing. Treat the symptoms of a disease = not doing anything to solve the root of the problem.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8657475 - 07/20/08 02:01 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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In every life we have some struggle, but when you worry you make it double, don't worry - be happy. EVERYTHING WILL BE OKAY, I SWEAR. I had a bad case of the croup when I was about 2-4 years old (can't remember exactly), but I made it thru. It was physically painful at times but, that's how it can be. Everything's going to be okay though, I swear. You are a great person and so is your son. Love to you and all others. Good vibes! Everything is going to be ALL RIGHT!
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: LuSyD]
#8657491 - 07/20/08 02:07 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't know much about medical stuff so i read the OP and skipped to respond.
Your son is absolutely glorious. I hope with everything I have that he gets better, and soon!
much <3 from all of us.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8731203 - 08/05/08 09:17 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I have some developments, I think in the scope down Ethan's throat they have found out whats wrong with him!
When they scoped his esophogas his stomach and small intestine looked perfect, the only thing they noticed were small deposits in his throat which they biopsied, they diagnosed him with Eosinophilic Esophagitis.
Brief Description:
Eosinophilic esophagitis (EE) is a disease characterized by swelling of the esophagus (the part of the body connecting the throat and the stomach) caused by an allergic white blood cell, the eosinophil. Symptoms of EE can range from severe heartburn, difficulty swallowing, food impaction in the esophagus, nausea, vomiting and weight loss. There appears to be some age-related differences in symptoms, with younger children having more symptoms of weight loss, and older children and adults having food impaction and difficulty swallowing.
When he was tested for food allergies he showed no reactions to milk, or anything else for that matter. He also loved milk and ate cheese like it was his job, so we never made the connection. The night before we found out the prognosis I sent a text to Elise telling her how fed up I was and what I had planned to do. One of the things was to cut milk and then wheat from his diet. So needless to say this is amazing news, and hopefully its all that is wrong with him. Its a little disappointing to know that it may be something so simple all this time, but on the plus side its nothing serious in the end.
Thanks so much everyone for the love, advice, and support!
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8731213 - 08/05/08 09:20 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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That is great man! I am so happy for you and your family! He is going to be upset without his cheese, but at least he will get better!! good luck with his recovery from this situation! kat
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8731217 - 08/05/08 09:22 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's awesome they found the problem and it's not too serious. Best wishes to you guys.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8731266 - 08/05/08 09:40 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Awesome man, glad to hear you found out what the problem was. It can be scary not knowing whats going on.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Gumby]
#8731520 - 08/05/08 10:31 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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he's really going to miss milk products
let me spew info on your thread
see, all dairy products contain casein, and when it's broken down it releases an opiate, yes, like the drug, that's why when little kids drink milk, they calm down (it's not just because of their preoccupied with a boob) but, people can become addicted to it. And when they get off off it, they become a little bitchy. Though, he'll get over it.
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Casein has been documented to break down to produce the peptide casomorphin, an opioid that appears to act primarily as a histamine releaser.
but anyway. I felt like showing off really.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: metalmorph]
#8732244 - 08/06/08 03:00 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not all opiods cause euphoria or addiction - and if this one primarily acts on histamine, it wouldn't cause those effects. It'll cause allergy-type symptoms.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8732461 - 08/06/08 05:58 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, I didn't expect to have my heart broken this morning. Effed, I am glad to hear you found out what you did and I hope Ethan gets better and better. You have a beautiful son. I hope you and your girl make it.
Mucho respect for Gumby, Prisoner#1 and Shroomism.
This place is quite a community, so many seem to care so much about others.
Love to all
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8732471 - 08/06/08 06:11 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Effed said: So I have some developments, I think in the scope down Ethan's throat they have found out whats wrong with him!
When they scoped his esophogas his stomach and small intestine looked perfect, the only thing they noticed were small deposits in his throat which they biopsied, they diagnosed him with Eosinophilic Esophagitis.
Brief Description:
Eosinophilic esophagitis (EE) is a disease characterized by swelling of the esophagus (the part of the body connecting the throat and the stomach) caused by an allergic white blood cell, the eosinophil. Symptoms of EE can range from severe heartburn, difficulty swallowing, food impaction in the esophagus, nausea, vomiting and weight loss. There appears to be some age-related differences in symptoms, with younger children having more symptoms of weight loss, and older children and adults having food impaction and difficulty swallowing.
When he was tested for food allergies he showed no reactions to milk, or anything else for that matter. He also loved milk and ate cheese like it was his job, so we never made the connection. The night before we found out the prognosis I sent a text to Elise telling her how fed up I was and what I had planned to do. One of the things was to cut milk and then wheat from his diet. So needless to say this is amazing news, and hopefully its all that is wrong with him. Its a little disappointing to know that it may be something so simple all this time, but on the plus side its nothing serious in the end.
Thanks so much everyone for the love, advice, and support!
Wow, when I first read this thread the question that immediately popped into my head was, "What is he eating?" So many illnesses are caused by what people put into their bodies. I hope ceasing consumption of dairy will be helpful for your son. He's such a beautiful kid. And you look like such a proud dad. It's great to see you guys together.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: MOTH]
#8732559 - 08/06/08 07:23 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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That was my first gut thought as well.. so many illnesses are caused by food reactions, especially in children and when they go unchecked they can turn into chronic conditions. I know when I was a kid, I was highly allergic to all dairy and pineapples... for some reason. Anyway I don't think humans are meant to be drinking the amount of cow's milk we do. I mean sure cow's milk is fine... when it's unpasteurized. Drinking this pasteurized and homogenized cows milk in the quantities we do is not at all good for the body and is actually thought to be linked to a VAST number of diseases. Unpastuerized cows milk from grass fed cows is extremely high in antioxidants, enzymes, beneficial bacterias and other life-giving nutrients... almost all of which is killed during the pasteurization process. Pastuerization kills enzymes, denatures fragile milk proteins, destroys vitamins C, B12 and B6, kills beneficial bacteria, promotes pathogens and is associated with allergies, increased tooth decay, colic in infants, growth problems in children, osteoporosis, arthritis, heart disease and cancer.
"Pasteurization was instituted in the 1920s to combat TB, infant diarrhea, undulant fever and other diseases caused by poor animal nutrition and dirty production methods. But times have changed and modern stainless steel tanks, milking machines, refrigerated trucks and inspection methods make pasteurization absolutely unnecessary for public protection. And pasteurization does not always kill the bacteria for Johne’s disease suspected of causing Crohn's disease in humans with which most confinement cows are infected."
So yeah, the raw cow's milk is actually good for one. But pasteurized, homogenized milk is definitely no replacement for raw human milk.. which is ideal for human consumption. But glad you figured out the problem!!
Did you know we are the only species that drinks another species' milk? And we are the only species that drink milk after infancy.. just a fun fact.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8734535 - 08/06/08 03:42 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Much love brother!
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: geokills]
#8734561 - 08/06/08 03:46 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice to hear you have a diagnosis. Nice to hear things are getting sorted out for your son
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#8734565 - 08/06/08 03:47 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Senor_Hongos said: Mucho respect for Gumby, Prisoner#1 and Shroomism.
many of us here have grown to know the people in the community, we see most everyone here as family, there's a great many good people here, yourself included, so...much love to you brother
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Shroomism]
#8735277 - 08/06/08 06:05 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Shroomism said:
Did you know we are the only species that drinks another species' milk? And we are the only species that drink milk after infancy.. just a fun fact.
lol... somebody has been reading www.notmilk.com
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Effed]
#8735303 - 08/06/08 06:14 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol you got me actually I was reading http://realmilk.com/
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Shroomism]
#8737290 - 08/07/08 01:21 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, and most humans can't drink milk after infancy either. It's a European evolutionary trait.
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: zouden]
#8737304 - 08/07/08 01:27 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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zouden said: Yeah, and most humans can't drink milk after infancy either. It's a European evolutionary trait.
That explains why they drink milk in asian countrys.....
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zouden
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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? [Re: Entropymancer]
#8737402 - 08/07/08 02:08 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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