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Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors?
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The third week of January will probably be crucial to shroom growers and vendors in the Netherlands, because the Dutch parliament will discuss a total ban on shrooms during that week.
I wonder if this will affect the sale of spores of vendors outside the Netherlands. After all, you need to grow shrooms in order to create spore prints. Now if you want to do this legally, you need to get them from a country where it's legal to grow shrooms. The Netherlands is afaik one of the few countries (if not the only one) where it's legal to grow shrooms - so I assume most vendors get the spores from Dutch growers?? IOW, what will be the result of a Dutch ban?
Please shed a light on this!

Edited by Nebula (12/29/07 09:05 AM)

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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: Nebula]
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It's legal to cultivate shrooms in Jamaica.


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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: Nebula]
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I assume most vendors get the spores from Dutch growers?



never assume anything.


A Dutch ban would barely scratch the surface...

not all Spore Wholesalers are from the Netherlands.


I don't think it would be wise for the Shroomery Vendors to discuss where they get their spores from.

But I know for a fact that a couple of the Shroomery Vendors get their spores outside the USA and the Netherlands.


tc


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PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: Roadkill]
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roadkill every time i see your Sig i laugh at the people with m's have mushrooms for sale


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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: wikedferret]
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i always thought my spores came from the moon


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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: Substance D]
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don't you guys know mushrooms grow in the wild too?


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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: Nebula]
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what makes you think its legal to cultivate mushrooms in the netherlands?

as far as I know, and I'm pretty daggone sure, it is not


it is the sale, possesion, and consumption, subject to certain regulations, that is tolerated, not the manufacture.

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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: johnm214]
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i think that doesnt make any sense also many vendors not from netherlands.. also good point  makaveli8x8 it is growing legally in nature :laugh:

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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: johnm214]
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johnm214 said:
what makes you think its legal to cultivate mushrooms in the netherlands?

as far as I know, and I'm pretty daggone sure, it is not


it is the sale, possesion, and consumption, subject to certain regulations, that is tolerated, not the manufacture.


It's still legal to cultivate mushrooms in Holland. Fresh shrooms are not covered by Dutch law though this might very well change within a few weeks from now.
If it is illegal to cultivate them, then these guys would have been busted immediately:
http://www.procare.nl/
The owners of the company Procare have been on Dutch national TV several times, commenting the upcoming ban. No doubt they close their doors if fresh shrooms are legislated.
If you understand Dutch, check out these news reports:
http://www.vlos.nl/?page=publicaties&column=30
http://www.vlos.nl/?page=publicaties&column=31
You can see the owners of Procare in these news reports.

What you are referring to is the cultivation of marijuana. Growing up to 5 plants for private use is tolerated in Holland. Manufacturing other "drugs" is definitely prosecuted in Holland, contrary to popular belief (of some).

Edited by Nebula (12/30/07 04:53 PM)

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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: Nebula]
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Thanks for the links.:cool:


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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: Roadkill]
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I don't think it would be wise for the Shroomery Vendors to discuss where they get their spores from.


When receiving good or a service, I feel the consumer has a right to know where it came from. When buying a new TV would you want to know if it came from a legit source or fell off a truck?

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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: bait_]
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not when it is something as touchy as this, i believe we deserve to know that it is sterile and as long as it is we should not need to know if it came from the netherlands or some redneck in arkansas' basement.


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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: bait_]
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lol if you dont like it dont buy from them but im sure that one person bitching wont get them to give up there source.
If you can find a place that will tell you were they got them from go right ahead.
Plus walk into your local nusery and ask where they got there seeds they will say a supplier and point to the seed company not tell you who grew them.
I smell bacon lol or just someone who asks to many questions either way.


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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: MYSTIQUE]
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are you sure cuz that mda is the most sickening thing ever.


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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: MYSTIQUE]
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who said anything about mda?


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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: bait_]
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bait_ said:
Roadkill said:
I don't think it would be wise for the Shroomery Vendors to discuss where they get their spores from.



I feel the consumer has a right to know where it came from.




please notice that no Shroomery Vendor/Sponsor has entered this thread and mentioned where they are getting their spores from.

where they get their spores from is none of your business!~

your way too nosey or your a :cop:



:3stooges:


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: Roadkill]
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lmfao ....:whack: bad cop bad no go away and have a  :donut: and drink some  :coffee:  and let us smoke our  :potleaf: and eat our :mushroomgrow: and we will all be happy except the ups man who still has to deliver mail


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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: Nebula]
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no, I was refering to the cultivation of magic shrooms.

again, I don't read dutch and may be wrong, but mushrooms are "illegal" there, and while sale/ possesion is tolerated, the manufacture is not

That you can buy growing supplies doesn't demonstrate they're legal to apply to growing mushrooms. That you can purchase mushrooms doesn't mean the production is tolerated.

I've not seen any source that's even somewhat reliable (i.e. erowid) that claims mushroom cultivation is legal there.

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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: johnm214]
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I just think that these sponsors run legal businesses (I know there is no crime in the selling or trading of spores except Ga. Cal. Id.), but it is a crime to grow these mushrooms. So these sponsors, unless located in a place where it is legal to grow psilocybe mushrooms, should be wholesalers of the product (spores).

If they are committing a crime in giving me a legal product what if I don't want to do business with them?

Roadkill - I know I am new here compared to you, but by the respect you get on these boards and your post count, I thought you, of all the people who replied to this thread, were capable of turning that into a creative discussion topic instead of just flaming pig. TY

*edit* gramm-r

Edited by bait_ (01/03/08 01:59 PM)

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Re: Will a Dutch ban on shrooms affect shroomery sponsors? [Re: bait_]
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well to our knowledge they are NOT committing crimes, and theirs no way we could possibly know any different!!

think about diamonds, slavery is illegal in the usa, but guess what we import them from country's that commit these crimes! it may be legal their I'm not sure, but again my previous point stands, these things grow in the wild and theirs nothing illegal about taking spore prints to my knowledge


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