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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: lobo121782]
    #624299 - 05/01/02 07:04 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

This isn't dirrected at just you lobo.

I have let this go on for almost too long as it is.
Get everything out of your systems....and go back to living life.
Paranoid people don't impress me much.
Everything in life has risks.... decide your own path.
This thread is getting way off any Vendor type of topic.
I figgured I'd let you all blow off some steam and vent.

I personally feel that no Vendor should keep any customers information.

Please no more flames and name calling..... or I will close this thread.


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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #624302 - 05/01/02 07:07 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Well I have answer these kind of queries before when someone becomes paranoid and therefore deems it necessaery to include everyone else in their paranoid corner.


I have been involved in the drug subculture movement since 1962. That was the year I smoked my first marijuana while being an extra in George Stevens fine film, "The Greatest Story Ever Told."

Me, Van Heflin and Sal Mineo split a doofer after I found a pack on the grounds at DesiLu Studios in Culver City. The joints were in wheat straw rolled in an empty pack of Pall Malls.

I should say asked Peter if he knew Christ. Of course he lied three times. Yet he loved Christ but was not willing to admit to it because he would of been on the fourth cross.


Since 1977, I have attended more than one hundred drug conferences with audiences ranging from 20 people to 1000 people..

At each and every one of these conferences, symposiums, lectures, etc, there have been hundreds of participants interested in the history and use of these amazing entheogenic plant substances and their chemical cousins (2-ct-7, a compound I have eaten almost 20 times since 1987. I first did 2cb in 1976 and I did MDA in 1970. Lsd in 1964.

And I also was at the Monterey Pop Festival. By the way there was not a single drug bust at that concert.

Regarding the shroomery being busted. I really doubt it. It is a public forum and while many people here post images of mushrooms deem illicit by law, there are more people who come here and bullshit about things they really do not do, pretending that they do many things which they post on these forums here and at other shroom sites.

Yes some minors and probabaly a lot of minors frequent these boards. That is evident by their lack of knowledge thereof or their grade school and high school mentality show though very easily in their sarcasstic and sometimes vulgar flamewars and posts..

Point in question is that at every conference I have ever attended, and there are many more that I did not attend with more people then attending the ones I attended. Hm that was a little redundant. Sorry,

What I mean to say is that there are DEA pharmacologists who attend these lectures. I talked to several with Andy Weil and Richard Schultes over the years at these conferences. Sometimes the same DEA spokesman appears at several conferences and sometimes they do not. But at everyone of these conferences I am sure as many who participated in them know that there were narcotics officers present observing everyone there in attendance..

Yet after 25 years, not a single person I met or became friends with at these conferences were ever arested or prosecuted for their interest in drugs or whatever purpose they were at those sonferences for. Were they watched after leavving said conferences. maybe and maybe not.

As I noted above. If you are paranoid, that is your buisness. Why make your paranoia everyone elses paranoid business, just because you are paranoid..

If you are paranoid then maybe you ought to find another outlet for your activities. If you think they are coming for you then eventually they might.

Something that makes you feel so good inside and out and you are afraid of the police coming to get you for doing it. Then you shouldn't do things so that they might come and get you.

What is in your head is not in everyone elses head.

Do you believe in what you are doing and if you do believe that there is no wrong in what you do then do not be aftraid to say so. Stand up for your beleifs. Thats what beleiveing is all about. Fighting for your right to beleive in the things you have always been told that you have a right to beleive in.


Here are two small photos of average crowds at soem of these conferences. . These were from my lectures at Chapman University. The most conservative Christian College in America. Can you imageine how times have change becazuse of peoples openness. There were over 1000 participants at this 12 hour all day long conference called "The Gathering of the Minds."

It occured in 1994. No one there has reported being busted to Ron Piper the organizer of this beautiful happening. The more open you are with mushrooms then the more understanding law enforcement officials have about the substances you are using.

Cops do not care about shrooms in general. It is probably not even a priority for them. AS for DEA, they only become involved if inter state commenrce takes place and if you are not shiping mass quantities of mushrooms across state lines then the DEA does not become involved.

If that person growing in Vancouver had the shrooms growing in locked bedrooms in the condo then I doubt that they would have been found. I have a similar tale from San Fransciso where firemen found a grow operation in Oakland while puting out a fire.

Again, there are several big mushroom busts at my website at http://mjshroomer,yage.net/news.html

Theyt involved from 50 to 500 pounds of shrooms and more.

While some individual somewhere might get busted for a small amount, the odds against massive busts are limited.

My opinion, is that anyone who grows more than five or ten pounds is greedy and it is greed which will do one in.

Enough said.

Here are two images of attendants at the Chapman Christian College Conference on the Gathering of the Minds. The man in the bottom photo in the blue jean jacket is Paul Krassner, editor of the Realist.





Looking over the images it would be really hard to tell who is a narc. So why even think about it.

Oh one other thing, Those big mushroom busts always seem to occur by accident because of other drugs or chemicals or teenagers breaking and entering. Read those tales of the shrooms at my site for some insight.

mj

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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: mjshroomer]
    #624321 - 05/01/02 07:40 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: mjshroomer]
    #624342 - 05/01/02 08:11 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

very well put Mj. lol would love to sit and hear some of your story's over a big fatty.
if your so sure the site/venders/members are going to be busted, why be here? if i knew a building was gonna get demolished, i wouldnt take a nap in the lobby. but i truley believe ( who the f*ck am i right?) that before they mess with the shroomery, elowid will be hit. the hive will be hit ( so far, i have seen no definate confermation that the supposed bust was real, another paranoid delusion) , and they will take down overgrow,and poppies.org all before they mess with the shroomery. why? because these site focus on the drugs the dea is trying the hardest ( without any luck ) to stop... meth, pot, H, and the growing numbers of clandestine labs, synthesising drugs at such a frantic pace.
but, if your so convinced, throw out all your supplies, and you wont have anything to fear. let those who choose to do whatever, the right to do it. most of us are adults, and know the consequences of our actions

LOL and i thought you was 20ish ralph lol, i dont feel so bad being an old man around here now


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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: camel]
    #624478 - 05/01/02 10:57 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I will address only the legal misconceptions raised in Camel's post. Others have had their say on other aspects of it.

Camel writes:

The vendors are selling spores, and at the same time coming to these boards and answering grow questions. They are selling the necessary precursors (ie: spores) and are giving the necessary info to manufacture illicit drugs. The vendors are both selling spores, and giving the info how to manufacture drugs to MANY MINORS here at this site. This is CONSPIRACY and it IS VERY ILLEGAL.

Actually, the legal definition of conspiracy is not met by a vendor selling legal spores and providing information on the same site in the form of a generalized informational "FAQ" on how mushrooms are grown from spores. However, IF a vendor were to sell spores to a specific individual, and then enter into a correspondence with THAT SAME INDIVIDUAL answering detailed questions on the various steps required to turn the spores into psilocybin, then an argument could be made that a conspiracy occurred.

As an aside, the fact that the customer involved may be a minor is irrelevant. Conspiracy to manufacture a controlled substance is an offense that is neither mitigated nor made more severe by the ages of the participants. It is a felony, period.

I dont know how any of you cant see this, as this is the reality of the situation. if a vendor gets raided, then they have all the addresses of those purchasing spores for growing their own illegal drugs. do you think big bro gives a fuck that spores are technically 'not illegal'? of course not!

Most if not all vendors make a point of claiming that they do NOT keep customer lists. I have no reason to assume these claims are false. A subpoena to seize a customer list is useless if there is no customer list to seize.

Oh, and if you think that since the server is in Canada, and that the server with all of your (and my) precious IP's is safe, then why don't ya try telling that to companies and people who have been extradited or subpoena'd back to the US when in another country?

The US has no, repeat, NO jurisdiction whatsoever over either Thor or his server. Thor is not a US resident, let alone a US citizen. The US cannot subpoena a resident of Canada to appear in a US court. The Canadian government will not extradite him to stand trial in the US, since the "crime" involved is not a capital crime. Extraditions, even between countries with as amicable relations as the US and Canada, are not run-of-the-mill occurences. Extraditions are a VERY big deal, and not undertaken lightly.

The server is not located on US soil, and is not owned by a US corporation or a US citizen, hence cannot be seized by US law enforcement officials. This is why the online casinos locate their servers offshore, in countries like mine (the Dominican Republic).

The fact is that MANY minors in the US are using this site to purchase needed precursors, and getting the necessary info to manufacture illicit drugs. This would make both those who run this site, and the vendors responsible for conspiracy alongside contributing to the delinquency of a minor, both of which are VERY illegal.

Again, I must point out that it is no more illegal than manufacturing controlled substances. The penalties are actually less. The "delinquency of a minor" thing is a side-issue legally speaking. To an irate parent, it may loom larger, but I doubt that it comes as a surprise to anyone that many minors do illegal things. They drink, smoke cigarettes, drive, and screw (statutory rape) while under age. They smoke dope and crack, take meth and LSD and ecstacy. They grow pot. They steal car stereos and burglarize residences and stores and carry (and use) handguns. When's the last time you heard of some gun dealer getting charged, much less convicted, of contributing to the delinquency of a minor? Or the owner of a Seven-Eleven doing time for selling cigarettes to a high school student?

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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: Phred]
    #624542 - 05/02/02 01:02 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Listen...

I'm not saying you're wrong, but what you believe to be true is actually false...

i would love to analyze what you said, and each point you made, but it would basically be me repeating the same points i mentioned above...

one friend of mine is actually a lawyer, and i discussed these things with him at length many times... after all, i think it's very necessary one actually educate themselves on the legalities of whatever 'extracurricular activities' they partake in. so this is exactly what i did.

anyways...
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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: Phred]
    #624570 - 05/02/02 01:57 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

This is fantasy land. No one knows for certain what any of these pictures are of. They are pictures. Pictures are not illegal, drugs are. There isn't a state witness alive that can ID any of the mushrooms growing in these pictures,from the pictures, under oath in a court of law.

Until spores are made illegal, Buying and selling spores is legal. Trading spores is legal. You can sell them to any one who sends you money for them. It is a legal commodity. It is not regulated, except through taxation as a commodity being sold. Biggest concern for a non cultivating vendor is paying their taxes!!!!
Comparing this site to a marijuana site is rediculous. Marijuana seeds are illegal, trading them and selling them. That is what can get a site closed down. Not all the pictures of GRASS, but the seeds that get passed around in a country that it is illegal in. You can't ID a marijuana plant from a picture either. It is not enough for a warrant.
Warrants are issued based on someone with legal rights to your home, LANDLOARD, someone you invite in, or someone your landloard lets in narcing you out. You selling drugs to someone, and them getting busted, rating you out, and SETTING you up.
If joe dirt tells the cops that you are a grower, they still have to get more then that to raid your home. This person had to have been in your home, and SEEN the DRUGS, and then they could make a move.
PICTURES and WORDS on the internet, are just that, PICTURES and WORDS on the internet.
If your PICTURES and WORDS can be linked to actual crimes, or are actual crimes all hell will come crashing down on you. Pictures of Mushrooms are not crimes, even if you say you grew them. Where is the EVIDENCE to substantiate your suspected CRIME. Who can identify the mushrooms with absolute certainty!!!

If they could have moved on this place they would have by now. If they could have moved on Vendors they would have. If they could have moved on members they would have.

If any of you out here actually think you can ID a mushroom from a picture, you are kidding yourself, if you said you could under oath you would be lying under oath.
Mushroom busts as in any kind of Drug bust is the result of being caught with them in your possesion or selling them to a cop or someone working for a cop. If door to door searching was legal, they would have been doing it already. If anything on this site was illegal, it would not exist, NOW!!!!!

If the cops really wanted you, they could get into your house. But they would have to do so LEGALLY. And nothing that goes on here publicly is legal grounds to get into your home.

The REAL RISK is commiting a crime. Shit happens and you get caught. Investigating this site is a waste of time, they can sit back and wait for you to make a mistake, or for shit to happen, and then you get caught.

Solution, if you are gonna take the risk, do so SMALL SCALE, and certainly make sure that anyone around you that is at risk is a consenting party. This is your RESPONSIBILITY!!!
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Bitching and winning about what other people do to them selves is REDICULOUS. If anyone feels in danger about this site, they should not be visiting it.
As long as no one puts you in direct danger there is no concern. If you order from a vendor, YOU are taking responsibility for your own actions. If you trade you are taking responsibility for your own actions. If you post pictures, or give information, it is your own responsibility.

The responsibility always lies in the individual. Except it. If you don't like the rules, start your own site, and make your own rules.

I feel no danger in ordering spores from a VENDOR, they are legal for me. I feel no danger posting pictures of unidentifiable mushrooms. I feel no danger talking about science. I feel no danger trading spores to people who can legally possess them. I have broken no laws by associating with this site, any of it's members, or any of it's vendor sponsors.

LONG LIVE THE SHROOMERY, LONG LIVE THE OMC. Without the OMC I would have zero contact with people to even talk about SHROOMS with. No one I even associate with on a daily basis even cares about shrooms, let alone has an interest in them.
The OMC is all I got as far as Shroom Talk goes!!!









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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: camel]
    #624796 - 05/02/02 10:04 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Camel writes:

I'm not saying you're wrong, but what you believe to be true is actually false...


All of it? I addressed five areas of concern to THE SHROOMERY in my post: customer lists, the "minor" factor, the legal definition of conspiracy, US jurisdiction and extradition. Which of the areas do you feel I have misrepresented?

1) Customer lists. Can't be the issue of customer lists... if customer lists don't exist then clearly they cannot be seized, subpoena or no subpoena.

2) Minors. Is it your contention that the penalties for conspiring with minors under US Federal statutes are more severe than those for conspiring with adults? Note that since the server is owned and operated by non-US citizens, and is not located on US soil, IF charges could be laid, they would by definition have to be FEDERAL charges. Federal law does not have two tiers of penalties, one of which depends on the age of the participants.

Note that this caveat re Federal involvement applies only to THE SHROOMERY itself (referring to the title of your original post), not to individual VENDORS who may be located in one of the states of the US, and are therefore subject to STATE statutes, some of which MAY have more severe penalties if minors are involved.

3) Conspiracy. Do you disagree with the legal definition of conspiracy? Conspiracy is well defined and narrowly limited. Conspiracy is an ACTIVE crime, not a passive one. Printing a scholarly dissertation on the cultivation of mushrooms is a PASSIVE act. Engaging in protracted correspondence in the form of answering specific questions relating to certain steps of the production of controlled substances is an ACTIVE act. Further, conspiracy applies to specific INDIVIDUALS, not to the public at large. Publishing a book available to anyone with the money to buy it containing detailed instructions on how to synthesize LSD is not conspiracy. Standing over the shoulder of a specific chemist and guiding him step by step through the process IS conspiracy.

This is why an author describing in detail in a novel how to pull off a jewel robbery or how to convert a weapon from semi-automatic fire to full automatic, is not CONSPIRING with his readers. Similarly, the owner of a website providing an informational section (or links to some other site providing the same) on how mushrooms are cultivated is not CONSPIRING with those who click on the link.

4) Jurisdiction. You claim that the US has jurisdiction over Thor and his server. They don't. No crime has been committed on US soil, at least not by Thor. Some of the US residents that visit Thor's website may have committed crimes, true, but the closest the Feds could possibly come to involving THE SHROOMERY and its owners in the legal charge would be to list them as "unindicted co-conspirators", a moot point at best... just the standard lame and toothless "padding" to puff up the charge and make it appear more serious, hoping to obtain a stiffer sentence for the CULTIVATOR who is appearing in court. There is no legal repercussion to Thor or to THE SHROOMERY.

5) Extradition. As for extradition and/or seizure of property of a CANADIAN citizen who hasn't been indicted... never gonna happen. I refer once again to offshore online casino operations. NONE of those computers located offshore have ever been seized, and none ever will be.

i would love to analyze what you said, and each point you made, but it would basically be me repeating the same points i mentioned above...

How so? I re-read all your posts in this thread, and I don't see where you addressed ANY of the specific points I made, so there would be no repetition involved. Feel free to comment as you see fit.

one friend of mine is actually a lawyer, and i discussed these things with him at length many times...

There are lawyers and then there are lawyers. They have their areas of specialization. Is your friend a specialist in international jurisdiction and extradition? Or does he specialize in Internet crime or delinquency of minors? Besides, lawyers can be mistaken. Happens all the time.

pinky


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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: Phred]
    #625170 - 05/02/02 06:59 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Actually, the server is located in the U.S.


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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: 3DSHROOM]
    #625216 - 05/02/02 08:03 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

How much do you know about carnivore and the "Patriot Act"?

Anyone interested in freedom should have a look at this:

http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/


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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: 3DSHROOM]
    #625278 - 05/02/02 09:51 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

The server is located in the US? Oh, dopey me! Well, then, scratch all my comments re jurisdiction.

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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: mjshroomer]
    #636607 - 05/19/02 02:23 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

MJ shrooms on!


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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: camel]
    #637472 - 05/20/02 08:14 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Hey Camel, did you take any prints from those beautiful Psylocibe Cubensis mushrooms? Maybe you can trade one. No offense! I passed through moments of higher paranoia then you. And still pass some others..
MJ SHROOMER WILL SHROOM FOR EVER!!


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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: dumlovesyou]
    #637590 - 05/20/02 09:16 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

The relative harmfulness/harmlessness of any given substance plays little roll in the government's enforcement against such substances. Look at cannabis. Don't fool yourselves people. Uncle Sam wants you.

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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: ]
    #637855 - 05/20/02 12:02 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

I don't really thing shrooms are the governments biggest worry. Look at www.overgrow.com , it has marijuana seed vendors that give out info and even post pictures of their own grow op's!

Or at least thats what i think...

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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: Fd3000]
    #637913 - 05/20/02 01:02 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Hey, I'm not trying to be mean, but Thor has to get over this pussy shit about clearing every god damn post beofre it gets mounted. What kind of control freaks are we letting this war against our people turn us in to? Yeah thor, these fuckers argue. Let's move on. I'd prefer applying my own filter. Of course it is your god damn site and you may do as you please.

Then the drugs kicked in. I wasn't just visiting the zoo, I was the zoo.

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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: Fd3000]
    #637919 - 05/20/02 01:10 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

A very informative thread.
I was just pondering along these lines myself, but I like to dwell on non-paranoia happy things instead..

I think it's a bit funny how yahoo's description of the Shroomery under "Drugs and Medications" is
"devoted to the spread of information on hallucinogenic mushrooms."
Changed from the Shroomerys "devoted to stop the spread of dangerous misinformation on hallucinogenic mushrooms."

I think the government knows more and more people learn the truth about pot everyday, and if they wanted to publicize the mushrooms, more people could learn the truth about them as well. They can't even bring up damage due to smoke inhalation like with pot, maybe someone psychological condition trying them however...

It just sickens me to think that the government can't trust people to use MJ and shrooms in moderation just as they trust (or encourage) people to use tobacco and alcohol.

I will always be dedicated to the truth.


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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: WildLASER]
    #25373862 - 08/08/18 01:09 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Sixteen long and arduous Patriot Act infused years after this original post and thank the Mighty Mushroom, the Shroomery is still running strong and supporting free thought to this day!

I am proud to be a member of this community and all that it stands for- knowledge in the face of adversity.

Here's to another beautiful 16+ years!

:iloveyou:

*apologies for bumping such a dinosaur post, I believe it to still be rather valid and had to hop onboard!*


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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: sloopy]
    #25382659 - 08/11/18 11:20 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Youre a dick for not letting this die.
Most definately not valid. Bringing up old shit starts bullshit.
Wtf.

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Re: Why the Shroomery WILL get busted... [Re: em_bre_O]
    #25399858 - 08/20/18 02:27 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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The vendors are selling spores, and at the same time coming to these boards and answering grow questions. They are selling the necessary precursors (ie: spores) and are giving the necessary info to manufacture illicit drugs. The vendors are both selling spores, and giving the info how to manufacture drugs to MANY MINORS here at this site. This is CONSPIRACY and it IS VERY ILLEGAL..




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Sixteen long and arduous Patriot Act infused years after this original post and thank the Mighty Mushroom, the Shroomery is still running strong and supporting free thought to this day!





Just confirms my suspicions that this website is controlled by the authorities. 

True counter cultural communities are dangerous, and few are as potent as psychedelic counter-culture.

Over the years here, it's been the same thing.  A few really dominant posters here spew endless rhetorical facts and arguments that support the various establishment narratives used to justify the causal elements of the dystopia we find in society.

Its social control.  Control of opinion.  Cultural warfare.


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Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like it's from Neptune.  -Noam Chomsky

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