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Invisibleshane67
Keeper
Registered: 11/30/00
Posts: 113
To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc
    #368837 - 08/08/01 03:28 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Dear Members;

I have not been to the Shroomery since the members threatened my family and place of residents those many months ago.

When a friend told me that the members highly suggested that something ?might accidentally? happen to my store or family?well, once again you guys are going too far.

You are sending me viruses.
You are calling my business and threatening my employees.
Calling my advertising complaining about pricing and whatever fantasies you are telling the ?community?.

I am soooo sorry you do not like the prices at my site.
My kits are the best in this country.

Yes?you can build all of it yourself?. this is true.
You can build a Glove Box
A Water Incubator
Growing Chambers
Create your own Hybrids and Clones.

And if you do not want to do it and would like to buy a kit, well?that is up to you.

You know something? Spores are such a small part of our site now.
By the time I am done it will be one of the most well known MUSHROOM sites in the world! (pipe dream)

I have several well-known local artists getting ready to start a Mushroom Gallery on my site to raise money for adults trying to make their life cool again after spending time in jail.

I am donating all proceeds from the CD-Rom this month to help fight the abuse to children.

The members here are so focused on psychedelics that you are not willing to see anything else!

Paul Stamet can get away with selling edible cultures for over $100!
But lets all SHOOT HIS ASS if his tries to do the same with Shroom Spores!

You do not have the rite to threaten my family!
Send me viruses and spam!
Cohere idiots to do harm to my residents, family and store.

I DO believe you have the rite to complain to the advertising companies that I deal with?MORE POWER TO YOU!!

But, the lies and the threats are beneath you.

Worn the public if you must.
Hell, make it a 24-hour, 7-day quest!

Just leave my family and me alone.

From one human being to another?PLEASE.

I will not be checking the replies so don?t bother replying as if I will be reading them.
Do what you must Shroomery. Just make sure me and my family stays safe.

Stay cool!
Keeper


Edited by shane67 on 08/08/01 04:34 PM.


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Anonymous

Re: To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc [Re: shane67]
    #368842 - 08/08/01 03:35 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Hey, this IS a free and Capitalist society. Do what you want and charge what you want. Just stay the hell out of this site - YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE!

You suck but your mammas still sweet - support the FSR!

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Invisibleshane67
Keeper
Registered: 11/30/00
Posts: 113
Re: To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc [Re: Anonymous]
    #368845 - 08/08/01 03:38 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Great...I will make you guys a deal.

You stay out of my site and I will do the same for you.

Stay cool Shroomery!
Keeper


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Offlinenestafy
member
Registered: 05/10/01
Posts: 118
Loc: Hawaii
Last seen: 23 years, 10 days
Re: To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc [Re: shane67]
    #368848 - 08/08/01 03:38 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

FUCK!
LADIES & GENTS: we are dealing w/ shrooms here. Not cocaine, guns & the redneck thugs.. so chill.



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Offlinejonnyshaggs420
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 08/08/00
Posts: 1,965
Loc: Mid-West
Last seen: 19 years, 4 months
Re: To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc [Re: shane67]
    #368849 - 08/08/01 03:41 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Viruses maybe, but threats to your family from shroomerites I doubt it. But then again there are some radicals out there that think that threatening someones family will get you somewhere. Thats bull shit. The dislike towards The Spore Trading post is an honest and well thought out one. The prices are outrageous and there have been many tales of people being ripped off. I doubt your kits are the best in the country. Maybe to you they are, or maybe they are the best you sell, but for instance the DB kit is cheaper and produces copious amounts of shrooms. That to me is a better product. Less price with equal or better results, yep thats better. I still think the DB kit is overpriced though.

Making threats to get your store shut down are what most of us if not all are doing. As I recall the only "threats" against your family were that if you got arrested social services would take away your children, because of the business you deal in. And that is true, its not a threat, its a fact. Writing letters to the places you advertise, telling them of your bad business practices is also a good thing to do. We all need to get the fuck heads out of the business. Fungi Perfecti's items are also way overpriced, but at least Paul Stamets has contributed much to all mushroom cultivators. The mushroom cultivator is most shroom growers bible. Many people complain about his prices, but at least he doesn't rip people off for hundreds of dollars.

Novelty


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InvisibleThorA
Anti-Theist OVERLORD
Male User Gallery

Registered: 08/12/98
Posts: 10,017
Loc: Iceland
Re: [Re: shane67]
    #368902 - 08/08/01 04:54 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

In reply to:

I have not been to the Shroomery since the members threatened my family and place of residents those many months ago.



I still find it hard to believe someone would call and threaten your family, if they did its shamefull, but I still find it suspicious. How did they get your phone number, I've never seen on listed.

In reply to:

When a friend told me that the members highly suggested that something ?might accidentally? happen to my store or family?well, once again you guys are going too far.[


Once again if its true thats sad, but don't say we 'guys' are doing this, if its an indiviudal please deal with him. This community is upset with you, you've never tried to deal with it, just sell your overpriced rip offs to unsuspecting customers.

In reply to:

You are sending me viruses.



If you didn't notice there are lots of email viruses going around, don't try to blame the shroomery, try blaming the bastards that created the virus.

In reply to:

You are calling my business and threatening my employees.



How do people call you, its even hard to find your email address let alone any contact numbers.

In reply to:

Calling my advertising complaining about pricing and whatever fantasies you are telling the ?community?.



No fantasies, just truth, the truth shall set you free right? Many are upset at your business practices, why shouldn't they speak out?

In reply to:

I am soooo sorry you do not like the prices at my site.
My kits are the best in this country.




Your not sorry in the least, otherwise you'd change those prices right? Your kits are the best, are you joking? I just recently got an email about someone that spent like $400 dollars on the kit, keepers brew etc.... He said it was pathetic the results, so maybe you need to look into how 'good' those kits really are.

In reply to:

Yes?you can build all of it yourself?. this is true.
You can build a Glove Box
A Water Incubator
Growing Chambers
Create your own Hybrids and Clones.

And if you do not want to do it and would like to buy a kit, well?that is up to you.




Its a general opinion that kits are a waste since they are easy enough to build, but people aren't mad at you for that, its the other things like your syringe prices and keepers brew... Interesting your selling a CD on how to grow, considering when you first came around here last year you were asking basic questions... I'm guessing and have been told that you took most of the info on your CD from the Free and readilly available info on the net!

In reply to:

You know something? Spores are such a small part of our site now.



Probably not a surprise, who would pay those ridiculous prices for strains nobody's heard of or care to hear of... Its all BS.

In reply to:

By the time I am done it will be one of the most well known MUSHROOM sites in the world! (pipe dream)




I will make it my mission to not only make sure that doesn't happen, but that you start to get the bad press you deserve. The Shroomery is the best known mushroom website in the world, and will always be that way. Free information, Free spores, Free exchange of ideas, the Latest cultivation teks...

In reply to:

I have several well-known local artists getting ready to start a Mushroom Gallery on my site to raise money for adults trying to make their life cool again after spending time in jail.




Sounds like a nice thing to do.

In reply to:

I am donating all proceeds from the CD-Rom this month to help fight the abuse to children.




Making so much money now that you feel guilty? Why not donate the difference in your syringe prices with the other vendors to the abused children.... That would be a nice gesture.

In reply to:

The members here are so focused on psychedelics that you are not willing to see anything else!




Hey you reap what you sow, try looking at why everyone is upset and then maybe try to repair your damaged reputation. We feel that you are putting a black mark on this community, I don't care if you don't like to hear it, but thats they way it is.

In reply to:

Paul Stamet can get away with selling edible cultures for over $100!
But lets all SHOOT HIS ASS if his tries to do the same with Shroom Spores!




So you are comparing yourself to Mr Paul Stamets now? Wow, thats pretty impressive... Well considering what Stamets has done for this community I don't think we can argue that he's overcharging his products. He's a top notch vendor of edible's and you pay for that quality.

In reply to:

You do not have the rite to threaten my family!



Nobody has the right to threaten any one, if you are being threatened please contact your local police.. Trace calls, emails, whatever you 'claim' is happening.

In reply to:

Send me viruses and spam!



You ever hear of worm viruses, jeesh...

In reply to:

Cohere idiots to do harm to my residents, family and store.




I don't think anyone believes you anymore, stop trying to divert attention to the real issue, you ripping off people.

In reply to:

I DO believe you have the rite to complain to the advertising companies that I deal with?MORE POWER TO YOU!!




Don't worry, we will use that power, and more... I think its time we put ads side by side to yours speaking the truth about your prices... Wouldn't it be interesting if all the other vendors combined forces to advertise in High Times to not buy from you :wink:

In reply to:

But, the lies and the threats are beneath you.



How about your lies to your customers, I guess thats not beneath you?

In reply to:

Worn the public if you must.
Hell, make it a 24-hour, 7-day quest!




I don't work weekends, and I need sleep, but I figure a good 4-5 days of warning the public is good enough... Not to mention all the other people in the community who are on the lookout for anyone asking about your business... We will warn everyone who we can, thats the power of a community.

In reply to:

Just leave my family and me alone.

From one human being to another?PLEASE.




Its sad if anyone is truly harassing you, you should use the police and whatever means to stop that.

In reply to:

I will not be checking the replies so don?t bother replying as if I will be reading them.
Do what you must Shroomery. Just make sure me and my family stays safe.




Sure you won't.... You protect your family, we'll protect unsuspecting newbies from wasting money on your business....

To anyone upset with Keeper, please don't resort to threats or anything like that, its wrong and you know better...


_______________________________________
Webmaster of the Shroomery
thor@shroomery.org
http://www.shroomery.org

Edited by Thor on 08/08/01 06:22 PM.


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OfflineMordor
cyborg savage

Registered: 05/15/01
Posts: 118
Loc: North
Last seen: 21 years, 5 months
Re: [Re: Thor]
    #368914 - 08/08/01 05:19 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Wow.
A shame about the threats.
Thank God I did not order from him when I started. $100 a syringe for an Alpha z-Omega Super Stock Extra Bock? Come on man, you ARE ripping people off.


It's life. The dark that binds you. - InFlames.


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InvisibleThorA
Anti-Theist OVERLORD
Male User Gallery

Registered: 08/12/98
Posts: 10,017
Loc: Iceland
Re: To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc [Re: shane67]
    #368918 - 08/08/01 05:23 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

In reply to:

I have not been to the Shroomery since the members threatened my family and place of residents those many months ago.



I still find it hard to believe someone would call and threaten your family, if they did its shamefull, but I still find it suspicious. How did they get your phone number, I've never seen on listed.

In reply to:

When a friend told me that the members highly suggested that something ?might accidentally? happen to my store or family?well, once again you guys are going too far.[


Once again if its true thats sad, but don't say we 'guys' are doing this, if its an indiviudal please deal with him. This community is upset with you, you've never tried to deal with it, just sell your overpriced rip offs to unsuspecting customers.

In reply to:

You are sending me viruses.



If you didn't notice there are lots of email viruses going around, don't try to blame the shroomery, try blaming the bastards that created the virus.

In reply to:

You are calling my business and threatening my employees.



How do people call you, its even hard to find your email address let alone any contact numbers.

In reply to:

Calling my advertising complaining about pricing and whatever fantasies you are telling the ?community?.



No fantasies, just truth, the truth shall set you free right? Many are upset at your business practices, why shouldn't they speak out?

In reply to:

I am soooo sorry you do not like the prices at my site.
My kits are the best in this country.




Your not sorry in the least, otherwise you'd change those prices right? Your kits are the best, are you joking? I just recently got an email about someone that spent like $400 dollars on the kit, keepers brew etc.... He said it was pathetic the results, so maybe you need to look into how 'good' those kits really are.

In reply to:

Yes?you can build all of it yourself?. this is true.
You can build a Glove Box
A Water Incubator
Growing Chambers
Create your own Hybrids and Clones.

And if you do not want to do it and would like to buy a kit, well?that is up to you.




Its a general opinion that kits are a waste since they are easy enough to build, but people aren't mad at you for that, its the other things like your syringe prices and keepers brew... Interesting your selling a CD on how to grow, considering when you first came around here last year you were asking basic questions... I'm guessing and have been told that you took most of the info on your CD from the Free and readilly available info on the net!

In reply to:

You know something? Spores are such a small part of our site now.



Probably not a surprise, who would pay those ridiculous prices for strains nobody's heard of or care to hear of... Its all BS.

In reply to:

By the time I am done it will be one of the most well known MUSHROOM sites in the world! (pipe dream)




I will make it my mission to not only make sure that doesn't happen, but that you start to get the bad press you deserve. The Shroomery is the best known mushroom website in the world, and will always be that way. Free information, Free spores, Free exchange of ideas, the Latest cultivation teks...

In reply to:

I have several well-known local artists getting ready to start a Mushroom Gallery on my site to raise money for adults trying to make their life cool again after spending time in jail.




Sounds like a nice thing to do.

In reply to:

I am donating all proceeds from the CD-Rom this month to help fight the abuse to children.




Making so much money now that you feel guilty? Why not donate the difference in your syringe prices with the other vendors to the abused children.... That would be a nice gesture.

In reply to:

The members here are so focused on psychedelics that you are not willing to see anything else!




Hey you reap what you sow, try looking at why everyone is upset and then maybe try to repair your damaged reputation. We feel that you are putting a black mark on this community, I don't care if you don't like to hear it, but thats they way it is.

In reply to:

Paul Stamet can get away with selling edible cultures for over $100!
But lets all SHOOT HIS ASS if his tries to do the same with Shroom Spores!




So you are comparing yourself to Mr Paul Stamets now? Wow, thats pretty impressive... Well considering what Stamets has done for this community I don't think we can argue that he's overcharging his products. He's a top notch vendor of edible's and you pay for that quality.

In reply to:

You do not have the rite to threaten my family!



Nobody has the right to threaten any one, if you are being threatened please contact your local police.. Trace calls, emails, whatever you 'claim' is happening.

In reply to:

Send me viruses and spam!



You ever hear of worm viruses, jeesh...

In reply to:

Cohere idiots to do harm to my residents, family and store.




I don't think anyone believes you anymore, stop trying to divert attention to the real issue, you ripping off people.

In reply to:

I DO believe you have the rite to complain to the advertising companies that I deal with?MORE POWER TO YOU!!




Don't worry, we will use that power, and more... I think its time we put ads side by side to yours speaking the truth about your prices... Wouldn't it be interesting if all the other vendors combined forces to advertise in High Times to not buy from you :wink:

In reply to:

But, the lies and the threats are beneath you.



How about your lies to your customers, I guess thats not beneath you?

In reply to:

Worn the public if you must.
Hell, make it a 24-hour, 7-day quest!




I don't work weekends, and I need sleep, but I figure a good 4-5 days of warning the public is good enough... Not to mention all the other people in the community who are on the lookout for anyone asking about your business... We will warn everyone who we can, thats the power of a community.

In reply to:

Just leave my family and me alone.

From one human being to another?PLEASE.




Its sad if anyone is truly harassing you, you should use the police and whatever means to stop that.

In reply to:

I will not be checking the replies so don?t bother replying as if I will be reading them.
Do what you must Shroomery. Just make sure me and my family stays safe.




Sure you won't.... You protect your family, we'll protect unsuspecting newbies from wasting money on your business....

To anyone upset with Keeper, please don't resort to threats or anything like that, its wrong and you know better...


_______________________________________
Webmaster of the Shroomery
thor@shroomery.org
http://www.shroomery.org

Edited by Thor on 08/08/01 06:22 PM.



_______________________________________
Webmaster of the Shroomery
thor@shroomery.org
http://www.shroomery.org

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InvisibleThorA
Anti-Theist OVERLORD
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Registered: 08/12/98
Posts: 10,017
Loc: Iceland
Re: [Re: Mordor]
    #368919 - 08/08/01 05:24 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

What the hell? This was a reply to the post by Shane67, which is now in Vendor forum.... Damn you BB, what the hell are you doing to me :tongue:

Please check this link for the actual post...... To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc

_______________________________________
Webmaster of the Shroomery
thor@shroomery.org
http://www.shroomery.org

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Offlinejonnyshaggs420
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 08/08/00
Posts: 1,965
Loc: Mid-West
Last seen: 19 years, 4 months
Re: To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc [Re: Thor]
    #369019 - 08/08/01 08:35 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Well said Thor.

Novelty


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Anonymous

Re: To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #369028 - 08/08/01 08:51 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Fungi perfecti sells cultures (strains). These STRAINS were highly tested and are of KNOWN productive quality. You are selling SPORES, which means we would have to do the work, to find that something special, if it even exists. How can you even begin to compare spores to cultures? If you were selling exotics, like mexicana, yes by all means charge away!!!! But you are comparing chance with a sure thing. Good luck!!!
I sure hope no-one is placing threats against you or your family. AND there is nothing worse than informants, nothing!!!
This is directed at the spore trading post!!!! Not shaggs!!

Edited by Teonan on 08/08/01 09:54 PM.


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Offlinepsilocybespawn
ol bastard

Registered: 07/17/01
Posts: 258
Loc: The Heartland Of America
Last seen: 5 years, 30 days
Re: To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc [Re: ]
    #369045 - 08/08/01 09:22 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

If the threats are that bad, call the fucking police.
No one here wants to hear from you.

chenga la coche!!

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Invisibledimitri211
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 2,248
Re: To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc [Re: psilocybespawn]
    #369053 - 08/08/01 09:37 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Um FUCK YOU SHANE. i WILL NOT STOP UNTIL YOU ARE CLOSED DOWN FOR GOOD.
If you do not want people calling your house dipshit stop ripping people off and then being dumb enough to list your number.
How do you expect us to believe that people are calling your hoiuse and threatening your family when all you do is spew lies.
I will be one of the many people to get your site closed.
I will not stop until you are done.


drbluethumb@shroomery.org
Dr Bluethumbs Old School Toadstools
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Invisibleslither
addict
Registered: 02/02/01
Posts: 365
Re: To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc [Re: dimitri211]
    #369091 - 08/08/01 10:28 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Spore trading post, shane, whatever, you are a thief and that's all there is to it.


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Offlinesomedude
Stranger
Registered: 06/23/01
Posts: 110
Last seen: 23 years, 5 months
Re: To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc [Re: slither]
    #369133 - 08/09/01 01:05 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

It looks like he's totally ripped off fungi.com's site. It's almost an exact copy.... what a stupid cock. Everyone should submit his email address to newsletters. keeper@sporetradingpost.com


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OfflineOdd_Snail
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Registered: 07/16/01
Posts: 359
Loc: omotive
Last seen: 8 years, 9 months
Re: To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc [Re: somedude]
    #369137 - 08/09/01 01:23 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

how come after the first post he said he wouldn't reply to any others. yet he did... he is a very inconsistent and shady character.

"It tastes like...burning.." -Ralph Wiggum.

>If you are not wasted, then the day is.<




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Darlene: "Ted, I got you this new nose plug to stop you from snoring at night."
Ted: "Uh yeah, and I got you this paper bag to stop you from looking like James Brown in the Morning."
Darlene: "Oh come now, I don't look anything like James Brown."
Ted: "Hey kids, who does your mom look like in the morning?"
Kids... in unison: "James Brown!"
Darlene, "All right, thats enough... It's poison spaghetti for dinner tonight."

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InvisibleBrownPastures
old hand

Registered: 03/15/01
Posts: 968
Loc: here
Re: To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc [Re: Odd_Snail]
    #369216 - 08/09/01 07:19 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Wait, hold on, i just saw the site, is this guy for real? Is this what it has come to ? 90 dollars for a syringe? I find it very suspicious that this guy's "own strains" are conviniently the most expensive ones. NJ 6 and the Z- STRAIN?!?! This guy is off his rocker. Un-fucking believable.

a quote from the site :

"N.J. 6 Syringe
I LOVE THE AUSTRIANS!
The Keeper had to trade two Treasure Coast's and a Thailand syringe for a print of this awesome strain ...and it was a steal! New to the spore library is the beautiful and powerful N.J. 6 spore syringe!
From C.H.B. Labs
Very unique visual awareness.
SEE LIFE FOR WHAT IT IS!"

He should take these mushrooms , because he obviously doesnot see life for what it is! Yes it must have been a steal, as he says in the quote, but i'm not sure who exactly got stolen from. :wink:

what a LOOOOOOOOOzzzzzzzeeeeeeerrr!
lol





D D Island

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OfflineWhat_Guy
"Forget ME Not"

Registered: 08/01/01
Posts: 425
Last seen: 20 years, 3 days
Re: To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc [Re: shane67]
    #370061 - 08/11/01 02:47 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

I just sent this post and all replies to alt.drugs.mushrooms and to alt.nature.mushrooms! I think the kids that do not know about the shroomery wood like to see this, y know

OW, by the way fuck you Shane or Keeper or what ever fuck your name is and your S.T.P. "Shit That's Pricey" your new site name

To all the shrooms I ever grown 3.5g dry in 6mo. from the keeper kit shit

Edited by What_Guy on 08/11/01 03:48 AM.

Edited by What_Guy on 08/11/01 05:06 AM.

Edited by What_Guy on 08/11/01 06:58 AM.



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InvisibleBillyblastoff
Psychoactivepredator
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Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 725
Loc: Down these mean city stre...
Re: To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc [Re: What_Guy]
    #370866 - 08/12/01 11:54 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

As long as YOU continue to exploit and steal from people who do not know any better it is YOU who is responsible for your own concerns of your family's safety. It is only your lack of business ethics, overwhelming GREED that lets you continue to put the money you make DISHONESTLY take precedence over your concerns for the SAFETY OF YOUR FAMILY. You have no one to blame but YOURSELF, try making a honest living and you wouldnt have these concerns. YOU choose to put your family at risk since there is always the possibility of the fanatic element when your dealing with something alot of people consider sacred. A person who truly had these fears or concerns would stop stealing peoples money and find another way to support his family so as a family man to another I dont believe you have these concerns, I think its just a pathetic attempt at getting us to feel sorry for you and to leave you alone to continue your disgraceful business practices.


Tell me something good then I might agree with you..


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"There is a wealth of information built into us, tucked away in the genetic material in every one of our cells. The psychedelic drugs allow exploration of this interior world, and insights into its nature."

Tell me something good then I might agree with you....the Smithereens

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Invisiblesk81681
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Re: To the Shroomery..from the Spore Trading Post, Inc [Re: shane67]
    #12655717 - 05/30/10 01:09 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

He purposefully neglected saying anything having to do with the real issue that he rips people off whether in trade or shitty product.  I dont think the prices are an issue because anyone willing to pay such an outrageous price for spores when there are many wonderful vendors on this site offering great deals, deserves to be ripped off. IMO of course.:smirk:


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