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trouble sleeping/staying asleep
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any remedies or advice on how to fall asleep at night? i don't want to depend on sleeping pills. though last night i took a benadryl and 60mg of remeron and that was the first night in a long time i was able to fall asleep at a decent time and slept better than usual (still woke up a few times but was able to fall right back asleep).

i don't like tea, i wish i did, because i know that would help.
any other suggestions?

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Re: trouble sleeping/staying asleep [Re: wearejellyfish]
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I wish I could tell you but I guess I'm in the same situation.
Sleeping pills help but I don't wanna take them either. :shrug:
So yeah, this was just a rant :sorry:


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
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Re: trouble sleeping/staying asleep [Re: wearejellyfish]
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Hard to recommend something without a guess as to the cause. I go through sleep problems from time to time too. When it was depression related, I found that trying to maintain a steady sleep schedule worked best. I even went to a biphasic (two naps instead of one solid sleep) schedule for a few months, which worked really well except having to work made my naps too far apart.

Other times backing off/eliminating some or all drugs, including caffeine and nicotine did the trick.

I'd rather not take sleeping pills personally though, can't help you there.

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Re: trouble sleeping/staying asleep [Re: slackophage]
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There are a number of herbs you can smoke or possibly ingest that can help, I can't list any of them mainly cause I don't have any of them memorized currently. There also is melatonin... It is a pill, but it's the chemical that your body creates to go to sleep, not even really considered a drug. I know where you're coming from, I went to the doctor about the same problem (been goin on since 8th grade) telling him i don't want to be dependant on pills, and he still gave me anti-depressant pills (wtf was he thinking?) for sleeping telling me it may help reset my internal clock etc. Took them for two days and quit because I ended up punching my dad on the second morning and I am not violent in any way usually.


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Hope for the best, expect the worst.

Your world is how you perceive it.

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Re: trouble sleeping/staying asleep [Re: cycoshitzo]
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I was about to make a thread just like this, but since there is one, I will just chime in with what the fuck is going on with me.

I have always had trouble sleeping, but I have been able to manage it to the point that it doesnt screw me up.... until recently. I think it has flared up lately becuase I dont have any herb.... but I literally have gotten about 12 total hours of sleep over the last week.
Last Friday I got a very good solid sleep, but only because I was up for about 36 hours straight. then after that I have only gotten at most 3 hours of sleep every night.
I will be so tired at work, fall asleep sitting up sometimes, and then I get home and I cant go to sleep until about 8 hours later, and I have to be at work 3 hours after that.

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Re: trouble sleeping/staying asleep [Re: SneezingPenis]
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Things that help me sleep

Meditation
LSD/shrooms (post-trip, duh)
Wine
Getting a really thorough work-out then doing hatha yoga

I've been sleeping uneasily recently too, and whenever I wake up I am usually really physically uncomfortable and emoting negatively.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: trouble sleeping/staying asleep [Re: wearejellyfish]
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how much physical exercise are you getting and how regular is your sleep schedule?

i recommend getting up and going to bed at a regular time, getting plenty of physical activity in during the day (very important), and avoiding food, drugs, or tv within 2 hours of going to bed.


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Re: trouble sleeping/staying asleep [Re: wearejellyfish]
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This is a weird question, but what is going on in your mind throughout the day? Is there constant mental 'chatter'? Is your mind ever calm, or are you always thinking about something?

When you are unable to sleep, what kinds of things are you thinking about?


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Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man.  For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire.  Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it.

~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"

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Re: trouble sleeping/staying asleep [Re: SneezingPenis]
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YawningAnus said:
I was about to make a thread just like this, but since there is one, I will just chime in with what the fuck is going on with me.

I have always had trouble sleeping, but I have been able to manage it to the point that it doesnt screw me up.... until recently. I think it has flared up lately becuase I dont have any herb.... but I literally have gotten about 12 total hours of sleep over the last week.
Last Friday I got a very good solid sleep, but only because I was up for about 36 hours straight. then after that I have only gotten at most 3 hours of sleep every night.
I will be so tired at work, fall asleep sitting up sometimes, and then I get home and I cant go to sleep until about 8 hours later, and I have to be at work 3 hours after that.


Same here. I think it's because I have a guilty conscience.:hellfire:

Here's what really seems to help me. Passion flower, Kava, and Gaba. That combo before bed and once when I wake up at night can usually get me enough sleep to survive. It's amazing though how long one can go on minimal sleep. Worrying about lost sleep only makes it worse so I don't fret it anymore.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: trouble sleeping/staying asleep [Re: SneezingPenis]
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i do believe there is a correlation between various substance withdrawals (and possibly with weed) and sleep loss.


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Re: trouble sleeping/staying asleep [Re: wearejellyfish]
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Melatonin is worth trying for the dreams alone. Works for me.

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Re: trouble sleeping/staying asleep [Re: wearejellyfish]
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it could be something going on in your life that you need to resolve or it could be your brain chemistry... what do you think is the problem? have you always had this problem? sorry if i missed information already given but im about to go now so i dont have much time and i just skimmed through. if youre worried about dependency as another person said, melatonin might help. benadryl and doxylamine succinate ... both found in stores. all of these dont cause dependency. then you may want to try herbal stuff like Valerian root and others. the drug they show in commercials called rozeran that says does not cause dependency is actually a high dose of melatonin. remeron as you said you tried is an antidepressant of course and that can really help with sleep. certain muscle relaxants can help... pot can help... lunesta/ambien...etc... can help but you said you didnt want to be dependent on anything if im correct. anyway... off the top of my head those are some things that come to mind... hope you can get to sleep soon :smile:
ive had trouble sleeping since i was very young :/ so im pretty well informed... anyway... good luck.. any other questions id be fine answering as well.


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The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity. ~ Albert Einstein
"Fear is the great barrier to human growth." ~ Dr. Robert Monroe



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Re: trouble sleeping/staying asleep [Re: wearejellyfish]
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You could try eating foods that contain decent levels of tryptophan. :shrug: You can also get tryptophan pills. Somebody already suggested melatonin which works very well for me. If all else fails theres always a couple shots of liquor.


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Re: trouble sleeping/staying asleep [Re: soulcircus]
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I was going to post a similar thread, but thought I add on what I have. once I fall asleep I have a hard time getting up. Thought If I need to be up I can do it no problem. Although, I do seem to have constant mental chatter going on throughout the day. I have it pre-written so no editing:

I don't necessarily expect a perfect answer, but since I'm wide awake I'd thought I write up a brief composition of what is on my mind. I can almost never fall asleep. Last night for example, I was full and tired. Too tired for sex I told her, at which point she says "my boobs aren't weird." Referring to comment I had made about her breasts before. I look over to realize that she has exposed and now is playing with her breasts. So There I go, exhausted and all, this was the strangest cue for I want sex ever but why not. So after all that sleep finally came. Wrong, I was tired, but I laid there like I do every night for an hour or two before I fell asleep.

Nothing helps, Silence, herbal supplements, noise, vigorous daily exercise. I just wish I had a "normal" sleeping pattern, or at the very least be able to fall asleep without tossing for several hours. Does this happen to anyone else, and has anyone else figured out a way to just fall asleep already. I hate to do it, but I almost want to ask my doctor for some sort of sleeping pill. But I probably wont. This is getting ridiculous. Does anyone have any thoughts?


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Calamity's waiting for a way to get to her
Rosy red and electric blue
I bought you a paddle for your paper canoe

Say you'll come back when you can
Whenever your airplane happens to land
Maybe I'll be back here too
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