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Anonymous #1

Mail order shrooms? Would it work?
    #7636679 - 11/14/07 06:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Remember that the following is a theoretical senario and it isn't actually real. Also, as a side note, I am not the one involved in this, it's a friend I went to school with a few years back that's teaching in some Asian country. We're both teaching, but chose different countries. Don't email me asking for drugs or his contact address. I don't have drugs and he doesn't either, it's just his rambling.

Anyway, now that I got that done with.

I was chatting with the friend over VOIP last night and he told me that he was thinking about growing some mushrooms for mail order and I was a bit skeptical.

Basically, what he wanted to do was to grow some mushrooms and ship them internationally to Canada and Europe. He also talked about the US, but said he wasn't sure about that and probably wouldn't because of the risk. He seemed pretty convinced that as long as he didn't sell domestically (to any Asian country) then he would probably not have any problems.

As for quantity, he figured he'd just try to grow at very tops a half pound a month and sell by the OZ, probably looking for about $60 an oz plus shipping. Since it's low volume, he said he wouldn't be making a website or anything, just having a small list of clients that he would sell to when stock was available.

For shipping, his plan was, as best as I can remember, to send them letter mail, as flat as possible, in powdered form. I don't think he was planning on using any type of stealth, just shipping them as flat letters, maybe calling them tea or herb. I don't remember. Anyway, he said that he wouldn't vacuum seal, but he didn't think it would matter because dogs can't smell mushrooms. Fake return address and whala.

I really don't know though. I'm skeptical, but I can't really see how it would fail. I mean, at such a low volume, they probably wouldn't even put any interest on him with all those mail order marijuana businesses in Canada that already sell OZs and lbs of mushrooms.

I guess he would have a problem of finding clients. He wasn't sure how he would be able to tackle that hurdle.

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Anonymous #2

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7636721 - 11/14/07 06:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

sending in letters is just about foolproof. The only way he would be discovered is through the enevitable advertising of his service or the discovery of the grow op by police due to an emergency or friend rating him out.

there's always the threat of dumbshit kids ordering and then mommy finding out, getting all histerical, and phoning the police... instant international incident.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #7636766 - 11/14/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't read your post because I think I know what it's about.

Yes, you can mail shrooms in the mail. My friend does it all the time.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #7636775 - 11/14/07 06:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That's what I was thinking.

He figured that he would have to get a proxy service of some sort and accept E-Gold payments.

E-Gold is another thing I worried about. Since it's fairly anonymous, he thought that he would simply get it transfered to one account, funnel it through a few more accounts, then jump it into his real (not fake) bank account or get payments to himself from some non-American e-gold seller/buyer service. You know the companies I mean.

Is that too easily traced though? Would they trace it for a few international OZs?

As for friends ratting him out, I don't think it is a worry at all for him. Basically, what he told me was that where he lives, no one knows what the hell drugs are. People regularly grow mushrooms and it wouldn't be too weird. And for emergencies, he told me the same thing applies, and where he lives everything is concrete, so it's not life a fire is going to break out.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7636833 - 11/14/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

for 60 an ounce it isnt even worth the effort to grow them and not worth the risk involved.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7636905 - 11/14/07 07:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

In Asia, the $500 a month that he would get for a half pound is quite worth it.

Maybe it would be more than 60, he wasn't sure. Would depend on how much he could fit (maybe he couldn't get a half pound) and he wanted to still make the price appealing with overseas shipping. I think it's low too, but maybe it would be more like 80. He wasn't sure when I talked to him.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7636921 - 11/14/07 07:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Has this guy ever even grown a dried pound of cubes before? It is a lot of work.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7636992 - 11/14/07 07:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

No, I think he grew a gram in vitro back when, but he's capable.

He's been reading for months and months and drew up the plans, a guide, step by step, found everything he needs (but hasn't bought it, isn't sure yet).

To tell you the truth, he seems pretty excited about it. I'm a bit skeptical, but I don't know. He doesn't know how he would advertise safely (or at all) and I don't know what to tell him about that.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7637016 - 11/14/07 07:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

mailing within the states and canada is relatively low risk, but asia and overseas is a different story. not a bright idea if you ask me, and i kinda know alot about shrooms. you would be surprised how stupid most of the clients are when it comes to dealing shrooms. not something i would get into (mailing shit all around the world for stupid low prices). its high risk enough selling to just idiot friends in your own town let a lone idiots across the whole world. id be doing it right now myself but i just think its too risky and im not even a paranoid shroomer, just one that has sold to hundreds of idiot customers from experience. its a neat idea he thought up, but i would personally tell him to sling a few ounces to people in asia first before he decides to be some kind of international shroom dealer. maybe after selling to a few idiots he might change his mind about growing pounds and end up with a bunch of cultivation equiptment that was just a waste. most newbies jump into shroom growing to quickly and think theyre going to make a fortune from it, so maybe your friend should just ease into it slowly and test the waters before venturing into some international hairbrain skeem to supply idiots he barely knows with shrooms they know nothing about.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7637200 - 11/14/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

secondly, none of your customers are going to be too regular for very long. After a few weekends of eating shrooms they burn out on them or would rather do different drugs. So its not like theyre going to constantly want ounces sent to them every month unless theyre teenagers with big appetites with lots of teen friends with appetites. so say your dude grows a dried pound, he might sit on that pound for longer than he wants to because it doesnt sound like he has too many customers to deal with. people in the US score shrooms pretty easily so its not like your doing some great favor for giving them a hookup. if this dude is in asia he could probably sell them for twice the price because not many of those people are stupid enough to take the risk. say he is in china, if he got busted for doing this in china theyd string him up by his balls and let him rot in a chinese prison for the rest of his life. they're pretty strict over there. and you need quite a bit of room indoors to grow say an ounce dried a day would be a feet. and if this dude has only grown one gram invitro before believe me he is not going to have immediate success when stepping up into a larger scale operation. he will probably fuck everything up for a few months before he got the ball rolling, just like everybody else that tries to step into a larger operation before they even know how to run a small one.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7637230 - 11/14/07 08:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

First off...mail order shrooms is nothing new, it happens all the time in just the way you are talking about it. Not internationally with the people i'm thinking of...but the same plan none the less.

Also, a more anonymous vehicle for sending and receiving funds would be moneygram. Use a secret question and answer, and you need not provide any I.D.(thus, no need for real information, and no paper trail)

The only point of flaw, would be the chance of being found out and having the feds make a buy from you without you knowing it. Then you would be done for.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7637250 - 11/14/07 08:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It's a dumb idea. Tell him not to do it.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #7637258 - 11/14/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
The only point of flaw, would be the chance of being found out and having the feds make a buy from you without you knowing it. Then you would be done for.




Would the feds even bother with him being around the world?


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Anonymous #1

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7637531 - 11/14/07 09:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

(Original poster)

Personally, I agree with him that the country he was in would not give him trouble and the only one that he would worry about (or worry about most) was the countries he was exporting to.

But look at the past. I haven't heard of one mail order marijuana / mushroom business that has had trouble, and some of them are sitting on the ledge of the lion's den (In Vancouver, BC, Canada). I mean, the only mail order business I have heard having trouble was Marc Emery's seed business, but he sold millions of seeds.

I think I'm going to tell him not to do it, but I don't know if I'm going to push him not to. I don't know if the risk is that high.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7639275 - 11/15/07 11:26 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

A bunch of places in Holland used to mail shrooms here.

I ordered before.

You had to RUSH-RUSH-RUSH though because they wouldn't send dry, only wet.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #7639310 - 11/15/07 11:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i think the shroom powder is a bad idea. i dont know many people willing to buy shroom powder. it'd be easier to cut other substances in this.

i personally would never buy shroom powder.

whole shrooms or nothing. :mushroomgrow:


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Anonymous #9

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #7639328 - 11/15/07 11:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
First off...mail order shrooms is nothing new, it happens all the time in just the way you are talking about it. Not internationally with the people i'm thinking of...but the same plan none the less.

Also, a more anonymous vehicle for sending and receiving funds would be moneygram. Use a secret question and answer, and you need not provide any I.D.(thus, no need for real information, and no paper trail)






lol EYE see you


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Anonymous #10

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #7639337 - 11/15/07 11:37 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
i think the shroom powder is a bad idea. i dont know many people willing to buy shroom powder. it'd be easier to cut other substances in this.

i personally would never buy shroom powder.

whole shrooms or nothing. :mushroomgrow:



QTF


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #7640068 - 11/15/07 02:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
Quote:

Anonymous said:
First off...mail order shrooms is nothing new, it happens all the time in just the way you are talking about it. Not internationally with the people i'm thinking of...but the same plan none the less.

Also, a more anonymous vehicle for sending and receiving funds would be moneygram. Use a secret question and answer, and you need not provide any I.D.(thus, no need for real information, and no paper trail)






lol EYE see you



wasn't who i was thinking of..but yes, eye see you too, lol.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Mail order shrooms? Would it work? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #7640372 - 11/15/07 03:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
i think the shroom powder is a bad idea. i dont know many people willing to buy shroom powder. it'd be easier to cut other substances in this.

i personally would never buy shroom powder.

whole shrooms or nothing. :mushroomgrow:




Shroom powder because it is easy to ship in a letter. It'd either be that or it'd be crushed shrooms, because it would have to fit in a letter.


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