gopenguins said:

BrainForest said:

DMT is in our brains

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Proof?

I am not disagreeing. My original post in the other thread asking for evidence isnt because I do not believe it to be true...but thats just it - a belief or theory (although there is a difference in the 2).

However, this theory is being touted as truth and plastered all over this forum by people such as yourself, that may have read ONE book on the subject, and now believe it as fact. That is no worse than if I saw one negative paper on MDMA and took it as truth. When talking about scientific things, like what chemicals are produced in the brain, it is imparitive to be able to back up your claims with peer-reviewed medical papers. If DMT exists, atleast in any detectable form, I am sure there must be some documentation out there for it...or I would like to think so, although research on those types of things is scarce.

I would like to see such proof though, just so when I am talking about this to other people, I can say "DMT is in the brain" and back up what I am saying with proof. When you arent talking to other people knowledgeable about substances like DMT, and you say something like that, people tend to look at you like you are full of shit unless you can provide them with some form of evidence other than "because I said so, and he said so, so it must be true"

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DAY 6-8
At this stage the pineal gland starts to produce the neurohormone 5-MeO-DMT. This psychoactive tryptamine is highly luminescent; it is also extremely phospherescent due to the amount of phosphene that it transmits onto the visual cortex.
The neuro transmitter 'akashon' is normally only active when we are in the womb and in the first months of our lives. It is now reactivated in the darkroom.

5-MeO-DMT switches on 40% more of the cerebral cortex and awakens the nervous system to become aware of itself; 'beingness' results. Hence, the possibility of metaprogramming the nervous system's bio-computer - activating healing and conflict message assortment of the nervous system.

5-MeO-DMT is the empathogenic neurotransmitter that expands the emotional body between 'infinity and zero'. It gives rise to telepathy in the emotional and intuitive bodies. It engages the awakening of the 'Flower Of Life', the spine, which begins to glow in a state of beingness and peace.

Many exercises will be practiced during this period; compacting Chi, consciousness and awareness into the nervous system, working with the Silent Self and anchoring the Immortal Body.

5-Meo-DMT discharges the darkness from the darkroom. A bright light will be activated.
This Great White Light, the manifestation of the astral body, enables the self to project externally.

At this point, some degree on 'N-Methyl-D-Aspartare Inhibition' (NMDA-I) usually occurs. This is a 'soft form' of the slowing of the glutamate input signals into the cells. This makes it easier for the nervous system to cause electrons to stop flowing within the cells, allowing for profound meditative trance states.

The 5-MeO-DMT prepares the nervous system, through its empathic state of being and self awareness of the nervous system, for the DMT or dimethyltryptamine production of the pineal gland, in psychoactive milligram dosages.

DAY 9-12
There is now enough 'Mono Amine Oxidase Inhibition' triggered by the pinoline, to allow the pineal gland's 'serotonin to melatonin cycle' to be intercepted by adrenaline and ephedrine activity and converted into a 'serotonin DMT pathway'.
When DMT levels reach more than 25mg, one's experience can become very visual. DMT is the visual third eye neurotransmitter. It enables the energy body and spirit to journey into hyperspace, beyond third dimensional realms of time and space. It is intensely energizing. At this stage of the Dark Room Retreat, the required amount of sleep tends to diminish dramatically. Although the day may last 24 hours, 3 hours of sleep can seem like 12.
During this period we will engage in further practices; psychic games and interactivity, Taoist Dream Yoga (advanced levels) and Imagination Expansion.

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demius said:

according to Strassman, there is a good chance that DMT is secreted by the pineal gland, but the link has not been found.

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retrospect said:

The more stress people are under, the more DMT can be found in there blood, that is proven.

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ReoSpeedwagon153 said:

When I looked it up I discovered it was just a lot of evidence, and no real proof. That is why I wanted to raise the question.

I'm just saying that it is a safe assumption, based on what is proven medical fact.

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I'm not really sure how much evidence strassman brought to the table. Lots of speculation, mostly. 'Safe assumption' is going a little bit too far. "Not rejected by proven medical fact." is the best grade I'd give the hypothesis at this point. And hey, it does have some interesting things going for it like the picograms of dmt in various parts of the body. It's certainly not improbable to the point where I'd suggest against further research. Of course it should be researched.

I hate that I'm coming off as a Strasman hater. I enjoyed his book. If it were more often represented for what it was, things would be gold. But the fact that it isn't suggests that this is at least partially to blame on the way it was written. Intentionally or not, it's very for some people to read it and assume that the author is referencing verified fact, when it's often just speculation.