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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67038 - 11/30/99 05:12 AM (17 years, 14 days ago)

You're talking about every-day grocery store in the med department Hydrogen Peroxide, aren't you? When you say pure, I think of 100 percent h202. But the stuff you buy at a store is only 6 percent h202. You can get 20 percent from salons (hair bleaching) and higher from chem supply shops. I have a bottle of 30 percent that I just dilute. (even though I only use it to keep humidifier water fresh, haven't dealt with casing molds, yet) I hope you're talking about the 6 percent stuff, because anything above that can bleach. Good luck in your battle.

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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67040 - 11/30/99 05:24 AM (17 years, 14 days ago)

Hes actually talking about 3% H2o2....
Ryche.....WAY TO GO!!!!! Funny as it seems even I suspected that may work since you had mentioned to me to add H202 to my mycelium syringes....Have not made it the casing part yet so I couldnt try it if I got hit but Damn glad to hear you finally got the little bastard! you gonna play with the Pan Trops again Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67041 - 11/30/99 07:05 AM (17 years, 14 days ago)

After seeing a few post about H2O2 not being too harmfull to mycelia and after visiting the Peroxide manual site (didn't order) I deduced that there is probly no harm done to using higher consntrations.

I employed the use of 200ml 3% in each 1 liter of water and sprayed the bottom layer the substrate layer and the casing layer with this, thus moisturizing them. You can check the story of my success quite shortly, and in a few days pics.

What looked like the possibility of cobweb sort of stayed stagnant and I just removed the surface it had gotten hold off.

H2O2 and good aeration alla shroomgod is so far the best contam defence!!

WAY TO GO RYCHE!!!



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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67042 - 11/30/99 05:46 PM (17 years, 13 days ago)

So....would it then be advisable to mist healthy casings with 50% peroxide / 50% water?


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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67043 - 11/30/99 08:14 PM (17 years, 13 days ago)

I just got home to find one of my casings that I just did a deep scratch on yesterday is now infested with this mold. I am going to attack it with h202 right now. My other casing is right under it (in a refregerator terrium I set up) and it is not showing any signs of the mold yet. I figured I would go ahead and mist it as well. Your info couldnt have came at a better time. I will keep you informed on the progress (pray for me). Good to hear that you beat it! What is the cause of this frigging mold anyways??

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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67044 - 11/30/99 08:33 PM (17 years, 13 days ago)

Well, I did it. What really sucked is that the casing was just starting to pin for the first time. How long will it take for the mycelium to restore back to health? I went ahead and doused the walls of the refregerator with h202 as well. I never have had that problem before but when I saw it tonight, and then went to your web-site and saw the pic of it, there was no doubt about what it was. This is my first casing experience, hopefully it wont be a total nightmare.

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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67045 - 12/01/99 01:40 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

I'll get back and finish this post tommarrow.
Yes, I'm using the 3% h202 found at supermarkets. Today all the casings looked great.. only found one little tiny spot of cobweb mold on the edge of one of the casings. Sprayed it down real good. All the rest are looking real healthy and one casing started fruiting today.

Farmtripper, are you keeping those casings in the same fridge with all your food and everything, or special dedicated fridge for the mushrooms. In the past whenever I put casings or cultures in the main fridge they always got hit by mold, usually cobweb mold so I stopped using it a long time ago.
The mycelium recovers very fast from the h202 spraying.. within a day I noticed strong rhizo growth again.

Anyway, I'll finish this report tommarrow.. everything is looking good :smile:

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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67046 - 12/01/99 02:23 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

Does anyone have any thoughts of whether it would be beneficial to add thin layers of casing so the mycelium could colonize it quickly until you were able to build it up to about an inch. I believe that the reasons that casings get contaminated is that competitors have time to get a foothold in the casing before the mycelium can colonize it. Any thoughts?

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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67047 - 12/01/99 03:33 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

Ryche you are always full of great surprises! Way to go. I had reduced my problems with Ye Ole CobWeb Mold by 80% using the alcohol mix you told me a few years back. Can't wait to try this. I am almost finished building a new climate controled system (cooling coils) and will try this with my next crop.

Hey Papa Smurf you might say that's what I do (although you may mean even thinner layers). I case a little less than a half inch. Let the mycelium reach the surface...deep scratch and add another half inch. I do this because of the stronger flushes which result. Because of this thread, I'll be adding hydrogen peroxide to my casing mix after sterilization.



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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67048 - 12/01/99 07:45 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

Anyone ever been hit by penicilin, it smells like ass, I am allegic to it, so I can't deal at all with the shit. I hate this type of contamination, because I can't even touch the jars I have to put gloves on and just throw it out, gayness.

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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67049 - 12/01/99 08:13 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

Ryche, The refregerator is a old broken one that I cleaned out just for the purpose of a terrium. Its an old fridge that hasnt been in use for years (it was outside in the barn and was nasty). I noticed that it has some kind of a vent or something like that in the door right above the corner of the casing that got the cob-web mold. I guess it came from there so I covered it with duck tape this morning. The mold seems to be gone for now and the casings are showing signs of life again. Thanks for the very important info. Hats off to you Ryche!!

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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67050 - 12/02/99 02:31 PM (17 years, 11 days ago)

Ryche you reccomended using H2O2 in the mycelium syringes, sounds like a plan, becuase i lost my last batch of syringes due too contams, when do you reccomend adding the h202?


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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67051 - 12/04/99 03:42 AM (17 years, 10 days ago)

Well.. its been over a week now and there has only been one little tiny spot of cobweb mold show up around the edge of one of the casings. I sprayed it with h202 a couple days ago and nothing has shown up since.

One of the very important things I think for this to work is to catch the cobweb mold immediatly, within the first day or two before it has a chance to dig its way into the substrate.

Most all of the casings just started fruiting and I'm getting real excited. I'll try and finish the post above soon, my video card overheats and my pc crashes after about an hour being on. New video card on the way :smile:

Farmtripper...if you have it on the fridge.. then definatly hit it with alcohol.. immediate buzz kill for the cobweb mold.. but damages the mycelium.

Airhog, add in your healthy rhizo mycelium to a 1/2 pint jar, add in some sterlie water.. add in a tablespoon or two of h202.. shake like hell... draw up your syringes and innoculate.. it works.

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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67052 - 12/26/99 08:54 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Hi Ryche,
I was just curious if you had any futher info/results on your use of 100% H2o2 to battle cobweb mold. I read this post, tried the 100% solution and the mold came back only twice. I didn't spray it very heavily, but if I would have I doubt it would have come back at all. I can't wait to try it with some syringes!

Thanks again! I hope it's working out well for you!!!



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    #67054 - 12/26/99 11:18 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Hi Lana,
yes.. the h202 is working great. Haven't seen any cobweb mold show up at all since that first bout, this is an absolute first.
I even tried it on substrate after birthing jars. I had a bout 4 different sets of jars, all different cubensis strain. One set of the jars I noticed a little cobweb mold on the top verm layer... and in my experience, this little bit will come back to reak havoc later.
So I took those sets of cakes, sprayed them real heavy with h202, let them sit for a few minutes.. then cased them. I also sprayed the other 3 sets of cakes that looked healthy and cased them. That was a week ago. Absolutly no signs of cobweb mold showing up and the one patch, or the other 3. All of them the mycelium has recovered from the h202 spraying and are growing healthy and should be fruiting any day now.
Basically....what does all this mean? It is ok to spray your substrate pretty heavy when you have the dreaded cobweb mold, the mycelium will recover. Its a lot better then having the cobweb mold run rampant and spreading to everything.

Hello Alien,
the only ozone generators I have used are the ones built into my HEPA air filter, I let them run 24/7 and they didn't do any good as far as stopping cobweb mold. Sounds like you've been pretty lucky so far without getting any contams...usually everybody is bound to deal with it at sometime or another.. some ppl more then others. I hope your success continues.

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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67055 - 12/27/99 12:00 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

WOW Ryche!
Thats excellent news to hear! You should really put a small contam tek together! Folks who have never dealt with cobweb mold are lucky...folks who have, simply detest it!!! Thanks for all of your input and inovation. H2o2 has been a permenant tool in my "tool box" I think now it's time to purchase a few more bottles!



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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67056 - 12/27/99 01:13 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

You know, I don't think I could spot cobweb mold growing on top an otherwise healthy cake.

There are pics about, but I'd like to see more. Cobwebs in jars, mycel looking close to cobweb in jars, cobweb on casing layer, mycel looking close to cobweb on casing layer.
I think what people don't bother photographing is good mycellium that might looks like cobweb, and so when I get something that looks like it could be cobweb, well whats a guy supposed to do?

I suppose the solution is to spray it with H202 and find out. Good enough, put that in the tek if theres no better answer. :smile:



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Re: "COBWEB MOLD" beaten at last U need to read this
    #67057 - 12/27/99 03:37 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I was recently hit with cobweb mold on two casings. The first was spotted early and sprayed with pure h2o2, i thought it was taken care of but must have been too late. Today i checked and cobweb mold had already spread through casing, shit. I found the beginnings of another today, sprayed again with straight h202, moved soil around and saturated soil with h202, i hope this shit works...... I'll post results when i find out what happens


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    #67059 - 12/28/99 12:21 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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    #67060 - 12/28/99 10:30 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Buffalo Trance, there are some pictures on my website under the cobweb mold section of cobweb growing on the dry verm layer. There has been many times I was unsure of of cobweb mold or just extremely cottony mycelium. Sometimes I just let them go to find out, and sometimes sure enough it turned out to be cobweb mold and other times it didn't. That was a long time ago, now I can spot it pretty easy. I will take some close up pictures next time it shows up on a casing.

BucketHead, yes,, you have to catch it earier. And usually one spraying is not enough. You will need to move the soil around and spray it again 2 to 3 more times over the next 24 hours. And I even go so far as to give all of the casing soil around it a light misting of h202, and any other casings sitting nearbye. As this stuff is also airborn and spreads fast.
Thats probably why your other casing got hit.
Also if you dind't take the time to clean out your growing chamber, it may keep coming back. This has been my experience with indoor growing in the past, the cobweb mold quickly gets to the other tanks or nearbye casings. Although I wasn't using h202 back then, and I haven't been doing any indoor growing lately so I havn't tested its effects in an aquarium, although what I would do now, is spray the inside of the aquarim down with h202 pretty thoroughly.

Psychonaut, I've been blessed lately and havn't had a casing get hit by trichoderma. I did see some growing on the wood of my greenhouse though, which surprised me sine I put a mold/mildew resistant stain on it. I did spray that with h202 real thoroughly and it hasn't shown back up yet. That was about 4 days ago.
Personally what I would recommend for green mold, trichoderma, what has worked for me in the past, only sometimes, is to spray it down with alcohoo, cut out a big section around the infected area, and put a ziplock bag close to the infected area, scoop it in gently, so it does't spread more. Spray that area down with alcohol, and put in fresh casing soil in the section removed. This only worked about 1/2 the time, and you have to catch it when its a real small patch. This stuff spreads pretty rapidly as well. What I would do now though is test the h202 theory out, but still cut out that section, as trichoderma spreads underneith the surface in through the substrate pretty fast. At least with the h202 the mycelium has a better chance at recover.. the alcohl just plain out destroys it and does a lot of damage.

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