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Curious about chemicals in LSA containing seeds
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I am most fond of Rivea corymbosa as i have never gotten sick from it as i and many people seem to from MG and HBWR. i want to know why.

here are lists of chemicals in the 3 plants and a list of chemicals i am curious as to their activity. from http://www.ars-grin.gov/duke/plants.html

Strangely this site does not list LSA in either MG or Rivea...anyway.

RC=Rivea corymosa MG=Ipomoea violacea HBWR=Argyreia nervosa
and i am only talking about the seed.

these are the chemicals i am wondering about. their effects on our bodies.
ERGINE RC:330ppm MG:350 HBWR:100ppm
1,7-DIMETHYLPHENANTHRENE RC/HBWR
Alkaloids-are there not different kinds??? HBWR
CHANOCLAVINE RC: 40 ppm MG: 50 ppm HBWR:?
ERGOMETRINE RC: 20ppm MG: 50 ppm HBWR:20ppm
ERGOMETRININE RC:20ppm HBWR:20ppm
ISOERGINE (hallucinogen) RC: 190ppm MG: 50ppm HBWR: 190ppm
LYSERGOL RC/HBWR
TRYPTOPHAN-activities: anti-anxiety, anti-depressant, hypnotic, Hypotensive, sedative and more. HBWR
ELYMOCLAVINE MG: 50ppm

I may be talking out of my ass and I have only played with these seeds a few times (rivea quite a few times). My very basic observations were, they all made my muscles/joints hurt. I got sleepy after a couple hours. Rivea did not make me sick while the others made me at least a little sick.

My questions. HBWR and MG people often complain they get sick from. Rivea I have not heard much from. Looking at the chemicals could it be the higher concentration of certain chemicals. OR could it be that Rivea has higher concentrations of ISOERGINE and ERGINE than one of the others so a higher, so isn’t needed (in relation to MG)

Hope I am making sense. Anyone have any comments? I find DR dukes useful, but sometimes incredibly aggravating as they don’t always list everything.

Rivea:
Chemicals

1,7-DIMETHYLPHENANTHRENE Seed: DUKE1992A

No activity reported.

ALKALOIDS Seed 560 ppm; DUKE1992A

No activity reported.

CHANOCLAVINE Seed 40 ppm; DUKE1992A

No activity reported.

ELYMOICLAVINE Seed 15 ppm; DUKE1992A

No activity reported.

ERGINE Seed 100 ppm; DUKE1992A

No activity reported.

ERGOMETRINE Seed 20 ppm; DUKE1992A

Abortifacient DUKE1992B ; Antiimplantation JBH ; Hemostat CRC ; Lactafuge JBH ; Oxytocic JBH ; Prolactin-Inhibitor JBH ; Uterotonic CRC

ERGOMETRININE Seed 20 ppm; DUKE1992A

No activity reported.

ISOERGINE Seed 190 ppm; DUKE1992A

Hallucinogen 2 mg/man/day/orl CRC

LYSERGOL Seed: DUKE1992A

No activity reported.

PENNICLAVINE Seed: DUKE1992A

No activity reported.

PHENANTHRENE Seed: DUKE1992A

No activity reported.

TRYPTOPHAN Seed: DUKE1992A

Analgesic 750 mg/4x/day/orl/man M29 ; Antianxiety 500-1,000 mg/meal WER ; Antidementia 3 g/day WER ; Antidepressant 1-3 g/3x/day/orl/man M29 ; Antidyskinetic 2-8 g/orl/wmn/day M29 ; Antihypertensive JAF36:1079 ; Antiinsomniac 1-3 g/day WER ; Antimanic 12 g/man/day/orl PAM ; Antimenopausal 6 g/day WER ; Antimigraine 500 mg/man/4x/day M29 ; Antioxidant 125 ug/ml; Antiparkinsonian 2 g 3 x/day WER ; Antiphenylketonuric M29 ; Antiprostaglandin 250 pg/ml X12120812 ; Antipsychotic 12 g/man/day M29 ; Antirheumatic M29 ; Antiscoliotic ACS791:267 ; Carcinogenic CRC ; Essential JBH ; Hypnotic M29 ; Hypoglycemic EMP6:157 ; Hypotensive 3 g/day WER ; Insulinase-Inhibitor EMP6:157 ; Insulinotonic JAF36:1079 ; Monoamine-Precursor PAM ; Prolactinogenic PAM ; Sedative 3-10 g/man/day; Serotoninergic 6-12 g/day/orl/man MAR ; Tumor-Promoter JAF36:1079

TUBICORYNE Plant: DUKE1992A

No activity reported

MG (Ipomoea violacea):
Chemicals

CHANOCLAVINE Seed 50 ppm; DUKE1992A

CHANOCLAVINE-1-CARBOXYLIC-ACID Seed: DUKE1992A

ELYMOCLAVINE Seed 50 ppm; DUKE1992A

ERGINE Seed 350 ppm; DUKE1992A

ERGOMETRINE Seed 50 ppm; DUKE1992A

ISOERGINE Seed 50 ppm; DUKE1992A

HBWR (Argyreia nervosa):
CHANOCLAVINE Seed: DUKE1992A

ERGINE Seed: DUKE1992A

ERGONOVINE Seed: DUKE1992A

ISOERGINE Seed: DUKE1992A

LYSERGIC-ACID-AMIDES Seed: DUKE1992A

PENNICLAVINE Seed: DUKE1992A

STRYCHNINE Plant: DUKE1992A


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Re: Curious about chemicals in LSA containing seeds [Re: kadakuda]
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As far as I know, Ergine is LSA.

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Re: Curious about chemicals in LSA containing seeds [Re: Cyano]
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oh. :tongue:  so it is haha. 

questions still stand.


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Re: Curious about chemicals in LSA containing seeds [Re: kadakuda]
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Yup, can be used in LSD synthesis.

Haven't even heard of most of the other chemicals though, sorry.


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