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Offlinefreddurgan
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Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns.
    #2376395 - 02/25/04 04:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Ok, I put my 3 LSA drinks into the fridge yesterday. This is what I did :

1.) Shaved 9 seeds per person (27 seeds) really well. There is *no* fuzz on these seeds. I put much care into doing that right.
2.) I had to smash them somehow. I'm in a dorm, so I can't do anything super loud, so this is how I did it. I built a little paper container, put the 9 seeds into the container, put the container on a book, and hit it with a hammer many times. The book backing absorbed alot of sound =D
3.) I put the smashed seeds into some bottled water. My main concern is that some of the seed chunks were too big. I could cut many of them with a knife if I wanted to. They were like..half the size of a pea, lets say. Is that too big? Should it have been like..a fine powder? Or will relatively smashed do ok.

4.) Should I filter it before I drink it? Or should I just drink the chunks of tripe left in the bottle.

Also, is LSA going to cause a cross tolerance problem with LSD?

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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: freddurgan]
    #2376448 - 02/25/04 04:49 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

filtering is an option, since you didn't grind up the seeds so well i would either drink the chunks or let it soak longer (how long did it soak anyway?) also you should have used something slightly acidic to help the extraction (absorbic acid, lemon juice ect.) so i would defentaly drink the chunks if i were you or add something acidic and let it sit for a few days more. also lsa will interfere (cross tolerance) with lsd most likely.


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: freddurgan]
    #2376468 - 02/25/04 04:56 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

throw your liquid with the seed chunks still in, into the blender.... then blend it a little bit. let it soak and settle for a few more hours then filter and drink it. it will be nasty enough without having to chug big chunks of seeds too....


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: Infrared]
    #2376500 - 02/25/04 05:07 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

it's hbwr not morning glory i assume, it's not gonna be that bad i ate those things straight and the taste didn't bother me, morning glory tea is fuckin gross but that's 400 seeds compared to 9, not many kids have a blender in there dorm room either :tongue:


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: John]
    #2376755 - 02/25/04 06:52 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I'll clear up a few questions -

a.) They are going to be in the water for a total of 3.5 days.
b.) I'm not going to drink them in the dorm, so I *might* have a blender.
c.) Yes it's HBWR.

So, I'll propose this plan :
1.) Get some lemon juice.
2.) Blend the seed-mixture in a blender.
3.) Put some lemon juice in.
4.) Drink the whole bottle 4ish hours later.

That should probably be enough time to get the LSA out, I'll be able to easily drink the blended seeds so filtering isn't a big deal, and the lemon juice for the 4 hours might help.

I feel like these drinks have just been a mess


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Edited by freddurgan (02/25/04 06:54 PM)


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: freddurgan]
    #2376801 - 02/25/04 07:26 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

if your gonna swallow the seeds anyway lemon juice is unnessary, so is blending unless you don't wanna swallow the chunks. heh shit if you're gonna injest the seeds anyway you should have just saved yourself the trouble and ate the things, they don't taste bad and nausea isn't bad imo.


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: John]
    #2376946 - 02/25/04 08:36 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Ok well, I've decided that I am NOT going to ingest them. My friends are a *tad* on the skeptical side and I want to try to avoid any kind of nausea/bad crap. So I went out and got some lemon juice, added like..what 2 tablespoons? to each bottle, and shook the bottles again.

I'm gonna filter them on saturday before we drink.

I've pretty much got all the info I need - I'll post a report on Sunday of how it went, and if it sucks, figure out what to do next time.


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Edited by freddurgan (02/25/04 08:38 PM)


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: freddurgan]
    #2376985 - 02/25/04 08:52 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I just had one of the worst experiences of my life with Morning glory (LSA).. 12 grams...

HAVE FUN
(I advise you against this)


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: freddurgan]
    #2377052 - 02/25/04 09:25 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

do you scrape off the brown casing? the shell casing?


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: Zero7a1]
    #2377418 - 02/26/04 12:06 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

CerebralFlower said:
Quote:

I just had one of the worst experiences of my life with Morning glory (LSA).. 12 grams...

HAVE FUN
(I advise you against this)




I counter-advise you to try this, as a matter of fact, after my ounce ran out, I bought a pound.
CURE the nausea with a fat joint,fast! AMAZING, that pot is!

The worst part about morning glories is the taste, I almost barfed last time. (before I smoked the dope)

No more chewing up 500 seeds, water (no chlorine) extraction next time, maybe I'll get some Kool-aid(R) drink mix and sugar. And maybe, no, I will have a happy evening this Saturday.


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: FesterBestertester]
    #2377894 - 02/26/04 03:04 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

FesterBestertester said:


I counter-advise you to try this, as a matter of fact, after my ounce ran out, I bought a pound.
CURE the nausea with a fat joint,fast! AMAZING, that pot is!

The worst part about morning glories is the taste, I almost barfed last time. (before I smoked the dope)

No more chewing up 500 seeds, water (no chlorine) extraction next time, maybe I'll get some Kool-aid(R) drink mix and sugar. And maybe, no, I will have a happy evening this Saturday.




Hey I bought Kool-Aid for my drinks, but I'm not sure if the Kool-Aid is going to mix with the LSA taste and make it worse, or better. Do you think adding Kool-Aid is worth it?


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: freddurgan]
    #2378120 - 02/26/04 05:43 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

You guys are pretty lame for trying to do HBWR or MGs.

HBWR are very toxic, they have a bad bad comedown. MGs are just plain non-active. MGs are the worst possible thing you could inget. Because you are just mainly ingesting plant matter.

I would not recommend either HBWR or MGs.

Hint : Look down in meso-america.


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2378467 - 02/26/04 09:49 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Isn't this position a total 180 from before?


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: neuro]
    #2378544 - 02/26/04 10:22 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Yes in retrospect.

I would NEVER ever dose any Ipomoea violacea or Argyreia nervosa again.


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2378587 - 02/26/04 10:37 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Why? Don't you get whacked off them?
Remember, they are not LSD, and should not be compared, but when you don't have LSD, LSA holds it's own.

Things can also get pretty dang hilarious. (try watching the man show on MG)

I'm dosing on MG this Saturday and can't wait. In my experience the buzz is less intense if you move around a lot, like a five mile walk.
Sit down, chill out, and then tell me MG's are no good.

Don't listen to anybody's opinion on MG seeds before you actually try them yourself.

Sure beats just drinking and smoking dope, yawn!


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: FesterBestertester]
    #2379184 - 02/26/04 01:02 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

FesterBestertester said:
Why? Don't you get whacked off them?
Remember, they are not LSD, and should not be compared, but when you don't have LSD, LSA holds it's own.

Things can also get pretty dang hilarious. (try watching the man show on MG)

I'm dosing on MG this Saturday and can't wait. In my experience the buzz is less intense if you move around a lot, like a five mile walk.
Sit down, chill out, and then tell me MG's are no good.

Don't listen to anybody's opinion on MG seeds before you actually try them yourself.

Sure beats just drinking and smoking dope, yawn!




Thats just abuse. Well atleast you only know about MGs.

BTW I have done LSA seeds over 20 times. All kinds. Mainly HBWR. But I will never touch MGs or HBWR again.


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2379222 - 02/26/04 01:11 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

No, I don't abuse anything. (well weed)

I just get interested in psychedelics for more than just 'the buzz' if you think I am being shallow or something?

I like to imbibe in something on the weekends and I do these things in a responsible manner, I'm not a fool just looking to get whacked out of his mind, it's more than that, much more indeed.


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: FesterBestertester]
    #2379243 - 02/26/04 01:15 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

So, I assume you must have something better on hand, I of course don't, so I use the tools that I can obtain, and derive satisfaction thereof.

I will do LSA again, it's better than nothing. (and it's not bad, why did you do it 20 times if it was that bad?)


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: freddurgan]
    #2380725 - 02/26/04 08:24 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Theshiftingwalls..... you seemed pretty smart before.. but that post about them not having any effects is PURELY IGNORANT.
I did 12 grams on monday and theres no fucking way in hell that there are no effects. I expereinced them.

BTW I am also never doing MGs again :P


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Re: Just made some LSA drinks - got a few concerns. [Re: CerebralFlower]
    #2380781 - 02/26/04 08:43 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Hummm. Well LSA wasnt part of the factor (maybe only a little).

Like its a freak out with MGs.

Good thing you have learned you shouldnt do MGs.


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