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NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM
    #6229981 - 10/31/06 09:41 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Hello everyone,

Its been a long time since I've been around but I decided to get back into mushroom cultivation. I ordered a large amount of mycobags and injected them with puerto rican strain. They are fully colonized, completely extended with air, and also starting to blue. Unfortunately I have no pins. I have been giving them between 12-24 hours of light a day, natural and artificial. I NEED HELP. Please anyone who can give me some tips please. The mycelium is incredibly ryzomorphic. ANY TIPS? I'm desperate. The only thing I can think of is that I didn't keep the temp high enough while they were colonizing so there hasn't been any temp drop to trigger the pins.

Thanks everyone and I hope someone can give me some tips. I don't want to remove them from the bag because I've had great flushes previously when fruiting directly from the bag. The spores are from Sporeworks.


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: Supershrooomer]
    #6230008 - 10/31/06 09:51 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Never used mycobags but I made my own bags of hpoo and rye grain and let them fruit invitro a while back,The only advice I can give is wait,and wait,and wait and when you are done doing that wait 10 times longer.It is not an exaggeration to say that the took FOREVER,even after cutting the tops of and fanning them to increase Fae they still took forever.I swear they were fully colonized for nearly a month before I saw pins and half of them fell to some strange contamination that made them smell of ammonia,I will never use bags to fruit in,in my opinion they are only for making spawn and are a very poor choice to fruit in,Good luck to you


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: Supershrooomer]
    #6230011 - 10/31/06 09:51 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

It would help to know what is inside the bags. If grains, you really should open the bag and place a casing layer on top, or use the grains to spawn to a bulk subsrate such as coir or straw, manure, etc.
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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6230058 - 10/31/06 10:10 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

The bags are grain-based mycobags from sporeworks, I have opened the bags and taped the tops in a sterilized environment. Also I just re-opened them, squeezed the air out and allowed fresh air back into the bags. They are now re-taped. Also the bags seem to have a half-inch vermiculate layer on top of the main substrate, I would think this would be similar to a casing layer. I will be posting some pics of the setup shortly.


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: Supershrooomer]
    #6230070 - 10/31/06 10:15 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Try cutting a couple of slits in the bag for air exchange. If covered with vermiculite, that's your casing layer.
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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6230082 - 10/31/06 10:23 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

The reason why I am hesitate to cut the bags open is due to the possible contam factor and the fact that the bags come with a patch for gas exchange. I have never had this problem before, could the spores be the problem? They took almost two months to colonize fully, usually it takes less than a month at most. I'll have pics shortly. Thanks everyone.


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: Supershrooomer]
    #6230222 - 10/31/06 11:18 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: Supershrooomer]
    #6230280 - 10/31/06 11:42 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Colonizing mycelium needs gas exchange. Fruiting mycelium needs air exchange. There's a big difference in volume.
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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6230320 - 10/31/06 12:01 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I understand the differences, but why am I having trouble with the bags fruiting now when I previously had no trouble whatsoever?


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6230419 - 10/31/06 12:28 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Colonizing mycelium needs gas exchange. Fruiting mycelium needs air exchange. There's a big difference in volume.
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ive often seen sealed bags fruiting incredibly good though - from multispore inoculations.


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: ohmatic]
    #6231488 - 10/31/06 04:48 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

How do the pics and setup look? Should I be expecting pins? Anything anyone can suggest?


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: Blutjager]
    #6231758 - 10/31/06 05:32 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Never used mycobags but I made my own bags of hpoo and rye grain and let them fruit invitro a while back,The only advice I can give is wait,and wait,and wait and when you are done doing that wait 10 times longer.It is not an exaggeration to say that the took FOREVER,even after cutting the tops of and fanning them to increase Fae they still took forever.I swear they were fully colonized for nearly a month before I saw pins and half of them fell to some strange contamination that made them smell of ammonia,I will never use bags to fruit in,in my opinion they are only for making spawn and are a very poor choice to fruit in,Good luck to you




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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #6231834 - 10/31/06 05:47 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

HOW'S MY SETUP LOOK? ANY ISSUES THAT ANYONE MIGHT SEE?


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: Supershrooomer]
    #6233278 - 11/01/06 12:19 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Don't yell.

Your pictures are too small to tell anything. Post them so they enlarge when clicked.
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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6233402 - 11/01/06 12:55 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry, didn't know I was yelling I'm just nervous. How do I make the pictures enlarge when clicked?


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: Supershrooomer]
    #6233431 - 11/01/06 01:04 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Your code is just fucked. Edit the post and look over the UBB code you used for the images.




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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: Quake3]
    #6234271 - 11/01/06 11:00 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Could someone walk me through the UBB process? I'm so confused and worried about my setup. thanks


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: Supershrooomer]
    #6234287 - 11/01/06 11:06 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Its rather straight forard. Just upload bigger resized pictures to your shroomery account. Which you did. Go to your shroomery home page, click on "My pics"

Under each picture is a little box with text that next to it says code,

just copy and paste that into your post


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: karn09]
    #6234611 - 11/01/06 12:53 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Ok so I reposted the pics and they now open up full-size in another window? Any suggestions, how do they look?


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: Supershrooomer]
    #6234700 - 11/01/06 01:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

If I were you Id open the bags and lay them in trays and case. You wont really have to worry about the contam factor because fully colonized substrate is pretty resistant to contamination. You should be able to case the tray and fruit in a rubbermaid. I think your problem is lack of FAE. How often do you open the bags to let fresh air in. I personally have never fruited invetro so I can comment on the method your trying to use.


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: StopGo]
    #6237245 - 11/02/06 12:45 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Well, well! Unfortunately, I'm having this exact same problem with the same bags but with the brazilian strain. I'm considering dunking and coldshocking the.. three bricks of mycelium, and case them using cococoir, but I really don't want to fuck up due to I'm a cool newb.

All three bags of mine have been roughly 100% colonized for .. I'd say three weeks. I would just wait, but my first attempt at a mycobag colonized to about 95%, then stopped. I waited, waited, and waited... four weeks later, there was light puke brown discoloration on the side of the bag growing bigger everyday. Anyway, I fear that happeneding again! So, if anyone can help us out, that'd be really cool.. of course.


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: goodontv]
    #6237257 - 11/02/06 12:48 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Well, well! Unfortunately, I'm having this exact same problem with the same bags but with the brazilian strain. I'm considering dunking and coldshocking the.. three bricks of mycelium, and case them using cococoir, but I really don't want to fuck up due to I'm a cool newb.

All three bags of mine have been roughly 100% colonized for .. I'd say three weeks. I would just wait, but my first attempt at a mycobag colonized to about 95%, then stopped. I waited, waited, and waited... four weeks later, there was light puke brown discoloration on the side of the bag growing bigger everyday. The discoloration was kind've a light brown. Anyway, I fear that happeneding again! So, if anyone can help us out, that'd be really cool.. of course.



I cold shocked mine and they still didn't pin for weeks,Dunking may not be a bad idea just make sure you rinse off the yucky dunk water under the tap,You are still gonna have to wait forever I'm afraid


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: Blutjager]
    #6237409 - 11/02/06 01:24 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Is this becoming a common problem with mycobags? How many people have had this problem? Is there anyone on Sporeworks on the board that can give us some tips? I've invested a lot of money in this setup.


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: StopGo]
    #6237432 - 11/02/06 01:33 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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If I were you Id open the bags and lay them in trays and case. You wont really have to worry about the contam factor because fully colonized substrate is pretty resistant to contamination. You should be able to case the tray and fruit in a rubbermaid. I think your problem is lack of FAE. How often do you open the bags to let fresh air in. I personally have never fruited invetro so I can comment on the method your trying to use.




if you were to case your bag spawn, would you just set it in a tub with a casing layer on top of it? or would you break up your big cake and mix it?

also, would it be possibly to colonize inside the bags, then remove from the bag, do a dunk and roll then send it off to your FC? (like you would with pf cakes, except it would just be a huge one...)

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Is this becoming a common problem with mycobags? How many people have had this problem? Is there anyone on Sporeworks on the board that can give us some tips? I've invested a lot of money in this setup.




i've been thinking about putting a decent amount of money into a set up, and i wanted to start off with mycobags...seemed like a good alternative to the PF method...
also, what did you use as your growing medium instead of BRF and verm since it's in the bag? or would it work to make a big BRF and verm cake (i would assume it wouldn't enough nutrients to get the full potential out of a big brick up mycelium like that...)?


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: SuchSmartMonkeys]
    #6237484 - 11/02/06 01:49 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

You've had suggestions to remove from the bag and case, and my suggestion above to cut slits in the bag for air exchange. Either one will work.

I'd suggest jars for spawn over bags. Spawn bags work great for rye, but they must be prepared dryer than for jars. I fruit in them all the time when my greenhouse is full, buy doing as I suggested above. Cut slits in the top part of the bag at full colonization.
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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6237497 - 11/02/06 01:53 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

RR,how much rye would I use in a spawn bag,I still have a ton of them leftover from my poo bag grow and I may as well but them to use somehow


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Re: NEED HELP WITH MYCOBAG PINNING PROBLEM [Re: Blutjager]
    #6237841 - 11/02/06 04:37 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

So instead of opening slits in the bags I opened the tops and use hair pins to close them, about twice a day I fan them, I'm in new england so the humidity is high, should I just leave them open?


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