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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: trendal]
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if you don't believe in God, a soul, or salvation, it doesn't mean they don't exist. It just means they don't exist to you

Its in your best interest to convince yourself that there is more to life that can be known with logic. There is a God, and he loves you and has faith in you, even if you don't have faith in him.

You're a cool guy trendal, and I'm sure you'll do just fine no matter where you apply your tremendous intelligence. But you should remember that you are connected to God.

No, I was not satisfied with vague rhetoric, until I proved to myself that God exists, and is a very benevolent force.

Now, vague rhetoric makes me smile.

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: TheCow]
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Careful, trendal. Don't void out the message in this post unless you're ready to deal with the dire consequences.  :suicidebomber:


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As the life of a candle,
my wick will burn out.
But, the fire of my mind
shall beam into infinite.

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: DoctorJ]
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DoctorJ said:
if you don't believe in God, a soul, or salvation, it doesn't mean they don't exist.  It just means they don't exist to you


No, if you don't believe in God, a soul, or salvation, it simply means that you do not believe in God, a soul, or salvation - it doesn't mean that you believe that they don't exist. Discern the subtle difference? :smirk:

Similarily, if you were to believe that God, a soul, or salvation do not exist, it doesn't actually mean that they do not exist; however, it also does not mean that they do exist.

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Its in your best interest to convince yourself that there is more to life that can be known with logic.


There isn't one person that is going to deny that there is more aspects of the universe than what we will be capable of knowing with logic. However, these individuals tend to not simply act as though they do know these aspects of the universe without logic, because it doesn't make sense.

"I can't know with logic or any rational means if God exists or not, so I simply assume that he does, because I can't know him with logic.". How illogical. :lol: It doesn't make sense, and the fact that something cannot be known with logic doesn't mean that is should be assumed that it is an aspect of our reality.

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There is a God, and he loves you and has faith in you, even if you don't have faith in him. 


How do you know this? Exactly, shut the fuck up, you don't. :grin:

Seriously, though, there is absolutely no basis upon which to position such a belief, and you've admitted this yourself.

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But you should remember that you are connected to God.


He shouldn't remember anything that he has no means by which to know. It is not for us to delusion ourselves.

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No, I was not satisfied with vague rhetoric, until I proved to myself that God exists, and is a very benevolent force.


Exactly, vauge rhetoric has no substance and does not represent any aspect of reality. It only has "meaning" to those who already assume some illogical belief is true.

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Now, vague rhetoric makes me smile.


You must grin like the chesire cat when you post. :lol:

:earth: :sun: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: fireworks_god]
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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
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"... thought Alice, and she went on. "Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?"
"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the Cat.
"I don't much care where ā€“" said Alice.
"Then it doesn't matter which way you go," said the Cat.
"ā€“ so long as I get somewhere," Alice added as an explanation.
"Oh, you're sure to do that," said the Cat, "if you only walk long enough."

Hahahaa, oh god, I could laugh for days.


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As the life of a candle,
my wick will burn out.
But, the fire of my mind
shall beam into infinite.

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: psyka]
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Whoa, cool. :thumbup:

My subconscious apparently had more influence on that statement than my conscious mind did. :shocked:

:earth: :sun: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: fireworks_god]
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i remember wilson saying something about the mind could be mapped as a computer but shouldn't be mistaken as one. or something. as mind is always changing, i don't understand how one could call mind anything but everything and nothing. and the goodness inbetween. ies.


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"Woo haw!"

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Re: Quantum Thinking [Re: DoctorJ]
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DoctorJ said:
if you don't believe in God, a soul, or salvation, it doesn't mean they don't exist. It just means they don't exist to you

Its in your best interest to convince yourself that there is more to life that can be known with logic. There is a God, and he loves you and has faith in you, even if you don't have faith in him.

You're a cool guy trendal, and I'm sure you'll do just fine no matter where you apply your tremendous intelligence. But you should remember that you are connected to God.

No, I was not satisfied with vague rhetoric, until I proved to myself that God exists, and is a very benevolent force.

Now, vague rhetoric makes me smile.


None of that explained why my thinking is "dangerous".

Also note that I didn't say anything about God, I was only addressing your points on Quantum Mechanics and the notion of "analogue".


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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