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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: Silversoul]
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That is besides the point.

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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: NerdleWombanger]
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Besides what point?


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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: Silversoul]
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Why are you a Nazi sympathizer?

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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: NerdleWombanger]
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I dunno. Why do you hate America?


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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: Silversoul]
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Because women can vote.

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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: WScott]
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WScottsdale said:
Does Judaism have a case? Is Christianity really a misleading religion? I'm slowly coming to a conclusion, though still far from any, that maybe Christ wasn't really the Son of God and that Jews have it 'right'. Both religions believe in the same God, just the difference is Christ.



I have been having the same doubts or questions for a good part of the last year.

A year ago I read and studied the Bible for the first time from front to back. I have read the NT before but until then I have never spent that much time on the OT.

Too make a long story short; I came away with a new found love and respect for Judaism. There is just something about it that seems so real to me. Something that I have never gotten from Christianity. I have been a Catholic all my life but I have been giving serious thought about converting to Judaism.

Here is what has perplexed me the most. I read the entire Bible last winter with an open heart and mind, and after reading it I came away for the first time in my adult life actually doubting whether Jesus is the true Messiah. How does this happen? I mean you read the Bible and afterwards your faith in Jesus decreases. I don't know.Something just didn't click with me anymore when I read the NT.

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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: NerdleWombanger]
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I care - I am one. Your statement is false, your premise is therefore based on ignorance and your attending emotion is hateful. I'm not usually so brief in commenting, but there is nothing of your statement worth considering beyond simple correction.

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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: NerdleWombanger]
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> Why are you a Nazi sympathizer?

Calm down, please. This forum is for sharing ideas; not for debate, name calling, or flaming. Consider this an official warning.


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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: leery11]
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I'm uncertain about the 'historical Jesus' but IT DOESN'T MATTER! Paul preached a 'Resurrected Christ' and that alone. The resusitated body, tomb narratives came later and are ridiculous to be taken literally. The Resurrected Christ is the 'Pleroma' of the Gnostics. Depicted as a glorified body, yet not having spatial boundaries at all!

You do not grok Gnostic Christianity by your comments. It is a 'realized eschatology' just like Buddhism. It is about the Present, not a historical fulfillment in the future. Historical events belong to Literalist Christianity, which Gnostics reject. Check out the above book - fabulous!!!


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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MarkostheGnostic said:
I'm uncertain about the 'historical Jesus' but IT DOESN'T MATTER! Paul preached a 'Resurrected Christ' and that alone. The resusitated body, tomb narratives came later and are ridiculous to be taken literally. The Resurrected Christ is the 'Pleroma' of the Gnostics. Depicted as a glorified body, yet not having spatial boundaries at all!

You do not grok Gnostic Christianity by your comments. It is a 'realized eschatology' just like Buddhism. It is about the Present, not a historical fulfillment in the future. Historical events belong to Literalist Christianity, which Gnostics reject. Check out the above book - fabulous!!!


This may seem absurd, but look at Criss Angel. Don't laugh. :laugh:

The guy does all of these superhuman acts infront of tons of people. Now I do know that magic is slight of hand, but for some reason this guy just astounds me. He pushed a damn full grown palm tree out of its place (think of pushing a tree, how hard it would be), then predicted lottery numbers before the day and got it right. It is all televised, yes, but HOW the fuck.

Maybe you could apply the same kind of thinking to Jesus. Perhaps Christianty is Satan's ultimate deception.

Look at America. Christian President hated by all (oh, and all it is :wink:). Religion is the cause of soo much diversification, which really, is the source of all the indifference and conflict. Religion has always been, but Christianity is so hardcore so it acts as a catalyst.

Bare in mind, I am merely trying to see all sides of a story. I do believe that some people have been 'saved' so that kind of throws in a monkey wrench. :\


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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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MarkostheGnostic said:
I care - I am one. Your statement is false, your premise is therefore based on ignorance and your attending emotion is hateful. I'm not usually so brief in commenting, but there is nothing of your statement worth considering beyond simple correction.


Well shit, nobody told me this was the humor-free zone. I guess I should have learned my lesson from the recent anti-cartoon riots? My intention was never to offend any austere Jews. (Are you really Jewish? A Messyantic Jew? If so, where's this friggin temple?)

Seuss said:
Calm down, please.


If I calmed down any more, I would enter into an extended period of torpor.

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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: WScott]
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Authentic Christianity all but vanished shortly after Jesus' death. The version that remained was a Christian-colored Roman propaganda machine that Emperor Constantine chose over Mithraism to pull the empire together. The fascist Romans burned most of the available books and selected those writings which could be used to control, tax, tithe and frighten the multitudes. Even the Protestant Reformation did little to correct authentic Christianity. Indulgences may have been rejected along with the doctrine of Purgatory, but they burned millions of people at the stake and Martin Luther was a virulent German anti-Semite who the Nazis could draw upon centuries later. I'd have to agree with you that these two forms of organized religion have been the greatest source of atocity and demonic activity and perhaps they have been the greatest deception of the devil as you say.

Baby Bush is a Literalist Christian like the Fundamentalist multitudes who voted for him. How many people did he execute as governor of Texas and how many of our soldiers are dead or maimed for the bait-n'-switch lies he sent them to war for? If anyone wants to believe that President Skull & Bones is a Christian, in Reality, then they have only a superficial understanding of what it means to be a Real Christian. In fact, it seems that very few people can discern a true Christian from the common label based on church membership, profession of faith and a literal understanding of mythological themes. If Jesus were to return in the flesh, trailing clouds of glory, NORAD and Bush would have F-111 jets fire on his robed long-haired body with air-to-air missiles before He had a chance to say "Verily..."!


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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: NerdleWombanger]
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Jesus was a Jew, everyone seems to be forgetting that. Jesus never said anyone should make him into a God of worship. In fact he told people when they bowed to him to stop and worship God as he did. People try to draw boundries and define religions and beliefs too much.

Some jews that were bitter and power hungry and too comfortable in their ways did not see the messiah when he came. And later when the end didnt come as he said, they resumed what had been going on before christ. Peoples memories are short, and life goes on. Those who did see Christ didnt follow his words, at least those that formed the churches and power structure. Power corrupts. History101.

Markos is right there is a whole seperate book of non-cannocial(sp?) scripture, and at the same time the all the english translations are chock full of mistakes. Dont try to reason out God, it is not possible, instead just try to trust your feelings. Mine havent let me down yet. WWJD and all that shit its just saying listen to your conscious. That was really jesus' message. Peace

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"peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein

"Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
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"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: blaze2]
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right on Markos.


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"Religion without science is blind, Science without religion is lame." Albert Einstein

"peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein

"Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: Silversoul]
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Paradigm said:
Anyway, back on topic: It is of no concern to me whether or not Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, because I am not Jewish. What I do know is that I had a direct experience of Christ consciousness. I know that Christ is very real for me, and I do believe that Jesus was the Christ(anointed one).


same

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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: Deviate]
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http://www.jamesarthur.net/

Read em and... well cheer realy lol...
if u like that click the banner in my siggy:


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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: shroomydan]
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shroomydan said:
The Jews missed the boat. They were expecting a political messiah, and when the metaphysical messiah showed up, they did not recognize him.  :shrug:


Jesus may well have been a 'construct,' and that 'construct' is comprised more from Pagan God-men like Osirus, Dionysus, Attis, Tamuz and Mithras then anything that was familiar to Judaism. That is why the Gentiles (non-Jews) picked up on St. Paul's preaching and the Jews who were 'fundamentalist' and non-Hellenized did not accept the Jesus of Paul's preaching. The non-Hellenized Jews were historical and apocalyptic in their Literalist understanding of scriptures, and were awaiting, as you say, an earthly king. Later on, after Paul, with the advent of the Gospel narratives, Gnostic Christianity (as taught by Paul himself in the authentic letters) gave way to the Literalists who were interested in creating a religious power structure, not in personal enlightenment.


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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Anybody played with a rubix cube?? Know how the solution is ultimately an arrangement of all values?? What if deep down we all know what 'right' is?? (solid colors on all sides) Finding it is just a matter of arranging all information to produce this desired result. Now if we are GOD, don't you think its time that we realized this latent power?? Everything upside down. Use that shit... Its a tool. Don't you think they already know?? What, you think they don't want you to use it?? This is whats destroying the planet. Duh.

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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: psyillyazul]
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jesus was an alien prototype

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Re: Jesus Christ is the False Messiah [Re: WScott]
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I think it is a very interesting predicament; Christianity and Judaism.


why does it have to be one or the other?

stop thinking like a computer!

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