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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: kaniz]
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I used the concentrated lemon bottle kind, didn't really work for me although it seemed to work for my friends, haven't tried fresh squeezed.

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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: DrGeek]
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also wondering: have people tried just drinking the juice and filtering out the mushrooms?

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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Underhillmaster]
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Thanks -- my general intent is to not have to eat any solid matter, mushies the last while have given me alot of stomach upset (they never used to, but now they are) -- now, question is though : would 4-5 hours be long enough to let them soak in the lemon juice for? havnt gotten around to preparing things yet, now 4pm, and prob wont be dosing untill 8-9pm (if not a bit later), should that be enough time? or, should I simply forgo the lemon juice for tonight and eat them straight up. *ponder*

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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Underhillmaster]
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Quote:
The potion can be kept in a freezer for a looong time (at least 2 month guaranteed, haven't tried more but chances are high it can endure much longer without any loss of potency).


Holy WOW :eek:

You froze lemonic psilocybin solution for *two months* and it came out potent?!

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When ingesting the juice can be mixed with any other liquid in order to lower acidity.


lemonade comes to mind, just melt and add to bubbly mineral water :smile:

Shneck you're adding a LOT to the body of knowledge.

As for me, I don't remove the grounds. I have experimented with dried mushrooms cut into tiny pieces with scissors, and did a 15 min lemon soak. This proved to be just as good as powdered (except the granules in my throat weren't as nice :wink:) so powdering isnt necessary for the Lemon TEK to work.


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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: kaniz]
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Kaniz, a 15min soak at room temperature works just fine.


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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Asante]
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*thumbs up* thanks -- so pretty much, its like making mushroom tea, minus the boiling and using lemon juice instead of water :P

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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Underhillmaster]
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Well, just strained out all the material, and ended up with about 2oz of fluid (2.5g of mush, 2 lemons + some concentrate)

Just downed 1oz of it -- going to wait about 20-30 mins, see how I feel, and may down the rest, we'll see.

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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: kaniz]
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Well, I'm still unsure of the '2x the potency' - this did work like a charm. I probably had the best/cleanest mushroom high I've had in a long time.

Smooth/clear come up, minimal confusion - it was almost 'too' lucid for what I expect from mushrooms, no real headfuck, very strong visuals, easy to follow thought patterns, no upset stomach/body load.

Even though I'm not sure I'd say 'it 2xd the potency' of my mushrooms - I dont see a reason to not take my mushrooms this way every time.

I strainde out all of the material - 1st through a cheesecloth, then through a metal filter from my cappichno machine to get out any finer/smaller particles.

Just took it in two shots spread about 30 mins apart.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Underhillmaster]
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yeah man, thanks for introducing this.........

i haven't personally tried it yet, but i'm sure i will either this weekend or the next....

ahem....i'm waiting for my crop.....

i've been telling all my friends about it, and they're amazed and they can't wait to try it either.........

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Underhillmaster]
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Well, I tend to be a big doser to begin with - I seem to handle psychedelics fairly well and enjoy the intensity of them.

I powdered them in a coffee grinder, and soaked them from 4pm-11pm approx, and for a short while gave them a hot water bath (put what I was soaking them in, into a pot of boiling water) -- but only for a short bit.

I'm sure if I had stayed at home during the trip, I could of very easily gone to ego loss/death if I had simply sat down and let things 'go'. But instead, I was focused on dancing non-stop like a madman for 3 or 4 hours :smile:

I've been doing mushrooms for a few years now and have a pretty good gague of how much to take and how I react to them. That being said - they can be very unperdictable at times and now and then I do get knocked on my ass when I least expect it.

Had I been less expierenced with psychedelics I could see how my expierence could of been very over-whelming (it was very intense, but as I said - I can handle it well, and enjoy it).

There were parts of the trip where I did just want to curl up in a corner and space out for a bit (in which, ego loss would of been a sinch), and had I been home - I would of done that. But, the music was just too damn good and had me stomping away for hours on end.

Next time I do this expirment, I'll be doing it at home so I can explore it deeper than I was able to this time.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Underhillmaster]
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Although, one thing I should mention - intense is a fairly relative term. What I say 'isnt very intense' - may be VERY intense for someone else. I'm just fairly use to very intense trips, and used to having those trips in social situations - my first year of doing mushrooms was primarily tripping at clubs/raves and outdoor events, and doing rather large doses at that. It hasnt been untill the last year and a bit that I've started to do more home-based/reflective trips/etc.

So, I'm sort of used to having ego loss/out of boy expierences/etc while tripping and handling them in situations where other people may freak out and have a bad trip.

Actually, my first time really having ego death/loss was at a rave on a condo rooftop, no idea how much I ate, but I'd venture around 4-6g (I was chewing on some, had a near instant come-up, then rammed an unknown ammount into my mouth and ran off to the party, was a bit reckless I know....), which resulted in a trip where for awhile, I was terrified I had gone too far, was never going ot come back, my world was morphing around me in ways I never expected, I had the sensation of my body being ripped to shreds and shot across the universe as pure energy and all sense of self/time/place/identity/body just went POOF.

It was a /very/ strong trip, and not one I'm inclined to re-create in a public setting again -- but, I managed to handle this trip 100% solo, get myself out of a bad trip - and turn it into an AMAZING time.

So, what may rank as 'not very intense' in my book, may be fairly intense for other people and could lead to bad trips for them, but I seem to be able to pull things around and handle them very well.

I'll be trying the freezing approach next time I trip and try this, probably will be a few weeks untill I get a chance to trip like that again though.

What I want to do some day though, is grind up say, 6g.

One week, take 2g of the powder normal, few weeks later, take 2g of the powder with just the lemon (no freezing) and compare, then a few weeks later, do 2g with lemon + freezing.

While factors such as set/setting can still play a huge factor in the intensity of the trip - atleast by powdering them up and drawing from the same batch, it'd minimize the varability from the actual plant material.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: kaniz]
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Hehe, I had to get reply #666. I love your long term lemon drink idea shneck. That should give you very consistent potency across doses. And its great to know you can take all the vegetable matter out and not lose much. I hate swallowing that vegetable matter lol. The long term drink does give me an idea. How much shroom material(powder) can be dissolved in a particular amount of liquid? I have been doing 3g roughly in an ounce of lemon juice. There is a lot of excess liquid. It might be possible to put 15g or more in an ounce of lemon juice. You could then do your long soak and freeze and thaw and strain, and possibly have a much stronger liquid. Hmmm hehe. And with a uniform potency, you could really fine tune your dosages. And take a very small amount of liquid. I guess I might have to try it out. I'll put some back from my next pick and give it a go.

Keep up all the good lemon work guys. It really seems to be sweeping the planet slowly but surely lol. Peace.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Underhillmaster]
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So I want to try this, and I just have a couple of questions, what is overall the agreed amount of intensity as opposed to not doing the lemon juice? If I were to want to have a 3gram trip, would I take 1.5 in lemon juice? Is about 2x the right amount? And also, is the trip shorter? or what? Does it change the time as well? or only intensity?

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: michael_lifshitz]
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Its my experience and that of my friends, and seems to comply with this thread, that the potentiation is in the order of 2-3x


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Underhillmaster]
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THank you, so for a first time tripper (my friend), I have already tripped on 3g, would 1g in lemon be good? Or might it be too much? I think he wants an experience in the order of 2-2.5gs, but its proobably not too big of a deal if its a little more intense. I had 3gs my first time personally and it was more than fine. I suppose 1g soaked in lemon would be cool for him, and it would give me a chance to see how I would rate it compared to 3gs.

But once again, I am curious as to whether or not the experience is shorter or just more intense? Does the timeline change?

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Underhillmaster]
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hey guys only losers use drugs. Think about what your doing to yourselves. Your destroying your ability to think and reason. You are doing irrepairble damage to your brain.(arguably one of the most important organs in human body) Dont you know drugs contribute to acts of immorality, like homosexuality. And Jesus probably wouldnt agree that mushrooms are cool. Stop using drugs or you will be a homo burning in hell. Nobody wants to be a homo in hell. Satan will probably make you his personal bitch. Can you imagine burning in Hell being gang raped by satan and his crew of demons. They most likely have 10 inch barbed and poisonous penises. I just dont think that you want to end up that way. I sure wouldnt. Besides dont mushrooms grow in fecal matter? You are eating somthing that grows in poo. Thats just gross. No girls are gonna want to kiss you with your breath smelling like that. Not that your gonna want to kiss girls after the damage to your brain causes you to seek out members of your own sex to have intercourse with.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Its my experience and that of my friends, and seems to comply with this thread, that the potentiation is in the order of 2-3x


You know, I may need to try a measured 2.5g 'normal' dry trip soon. I have a tendancy to not weigh out my trips, or if I do weight it out - normally within 30 mins of eating, I'll be grabbing anothre few stems / caps and munching on them without weighing.

I think many of my trips may be in the 4-5g range to begin with, and the lemon did sort of push me to where that was with only 2.5g. *ponder*

As for the come-up for me. I didnt notice an unusually fast come-on with the trip, it still took about 30-40 mins untill I had really noticable effects. However, once it hit - it hit fast, just sort of "not really.." to "boom, buildings are swaying".

I ate the mushrooms at around 11pm, and was still tripping (although very much on the downswing) by around 2:30-3am, and was home/in bed/sleeping soundly by around 5am (Left the club at around 3:30, walked home which took an hour, was in the 'after-glow' period by around 4-4:30 or so).

I had eaten a light-lunch that day at around 1pm, no supper, and had a strong gin and tonic and some weed shortly before tripping.

I am thinking of repeating this expirment this upcomming weekend. My last exam is on Thursday, going to visit some family on Friday, and come back home on Sat, and think I may do a 'stay at home/walk in nature/non-club/party' trip with a slightly higher dose (3g).

*note: I am aware of what this can possibly do in terms of trip-strength, but it's also along the lines of what I'm looking for in the trip at the moment.

I've found that the last few high-dose trips I've had, have come with an extreme level of mental clarity (as far as mushrooms go), and interested in exploring this more if possible.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: kaniz]
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So would you say then that it was significantly shorter for you than normally? Or not so much?

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: michael_lifshitz]
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Yeah, it was shorter by about an hour I'd say. All around, the lost hour is worth what you gain during the actual trip though.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: kaniz]
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Ok, so all in all this sounds liek a great way to double my amount of mushrooms, since they can be somewhat hard to find here, and get to drink soem delicious lemon juice in the process.

I guess I will be doing 1g with my friend, being his first time, with this method, and see how that goes. if it works out well I may try 1.5-2g alone sometime, as I really want to try solo tripping, and handled 3gs very well, and maybe would want something a little more intense.

So yeah, I will report back when I try this, but that might not be for a week or two.

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