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Asante
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Microsoft - your opinions please?
#5499166 - 04/10/06 08:49 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Few companies arouse such strong feelings as Microsoft does.
Are they leading the way or obstructing technological progress? What are your personal experiences, as compared to other systems and competitors? What do you know that we *should* know?
Let's keep this a respectful discussion of Sci & Techheads.
Microsoft - Where do you stand?
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: Asante]
#5499221 - 04/10/06 09:20 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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air strike! 
i do however run WinXP but that's just because i'm lazy and i don't have high expectations from my computer right now.. i've gotten used to crashes, slowing down and a general feeling of getting fucked... i should also note that i never paid for any microsoft program! (only original vertions i owned were always sold with the computer)
when i get a new computer i think i'm gonna try another OS though... it's about time for me! and i just love all those Open Source programs!
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: Asante]
#5499230 - 04/10/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Neutral.
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: Asante]
#5499260 - 04/10/06 09:36 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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there are a lot of things about windows that just do not make sense to me. i don't know why it does things the way it does.
my main complaints are:
1. poor multi-user implementation, which contributes to poor security 2. windows registry keys are a mess and seem to slowly deteriorate and eventually kill a windows install of old age 3. system is welded shut 4. non-customizable 5. i'm pretty sure microsoft will tow the line in any future government/business inroads against privacy
i like linux because it's free, it's built by users for users, it's completely customizable, and i can see and access all the parts. if i have a problem with a linux box, i know there is a solution, and that i can find that solution and implement it, free of cost other than my time. i can make it do what i want how i want. not so with windows.
running windows is like renting a shitty apartment from a nosey and restrictive landlord. running linux is like owning the place.
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: Asante]
#5499288 - 04/10/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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no matter what you think they are a necessary cog in the machine
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Seuss
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: daimyo]
#5499293 - 04/10/06 09:53 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i should also note that i never paid for any microsoft program! (only original vertions i owned were always sold with the computer)
If you have original versions, then you paid Microsoft. Dell, or whoever you bought the computer from had to pay Microsoft for the OS and that cost went directly into the overall cost of the computer.
Edit: W_S, I voted, but am going to wait a day or two before I start tossing my hefty opinion around. I want to give other people a chance to voice an opinion before I try to bias everybody.
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Edited by Seuss (04/10/06 09:56 AM)
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: Seuss]
#5499404 - 04/10/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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well... yeah but usualy it's a packedge deal so i don't really consider it plus i don't change a computer every year... i tend to run it long after everyone alse moved on so i think the last time i switched there wasn't really any other choice... none that could really replace everything i could run on windows anyway or one i trusted to. right now i have way more trust in open source projects then anything else!
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: Asante]
#5500167 - 04/10/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I dont like their unfair anticompetitve business practices. Also, as I have said in this forum before, I prefer not to worry myself with regular anti-virus/malware updating and scanning along with all the usual "maintaince" that a Microsoft OS requires. I much prefer a system that takes a bit of work at first to set up and then runs like a champ with little work afterwards. Unlike *nix, Microsoft is easy to install, but a continual hassle from then on.
Microsoft's insistance of setting up their OS where the user is always "root" or an "administrator" is just assinine and an example of poor planning.
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: Asante]
#5500195 - 04/10/06 03:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't personally like them much, but can't argue with the fact that they control the PC world. They provide a simple user interface that pretty much everyone knows, their Office suite is used by virtually every student at every school and by workers at pretty much every job.
Side note -- anyone know when Dapper Drake being released?
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: Asante]
#5500204 - 04/10/06 03:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am not a fan at all, but am at a point where I have to accept the bugginess and security risks of using Windows.
I will be getting a new pc next year with a large hard drive and will create a partition for a linux based OS.
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: Boom]
#5500239 - 04/10/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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> Side note -- anyone know when Dapper Drake being released?
1st of June 2006
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: Redstorm]
#5500275 - 04/10/06 03:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
I am not a fan at all, but am at a point where I have to accept the bugginess and security risks of using Windows.
on your personal computer? why?
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: Vvellum]
#5500319 - 04/10/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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False comfort and an unwillingness to change.
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: Asante]
#5506504 - 04/12/06 02:55 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I really dislike microsoft, but part of that bitter disgust is the fact that they take talented people and them amalgamate them into a company that can't take a shit without screwing something up.
The thing that bugs me is that microsoft has bright people and comes up with some really great ideas, but the company as a whole is so utterly incompetent that it is truly beyond their ability to successfully act upon any of those ideas. Nine times out of ten, they have a good idea, and it's brought to it's knees by bugs, poor decisions, bad programming, or just a wholly incompetent execution.
To say it briefly, microsoft is an example of how brilliant ideas mean jack shit to people who have no idea how to make them work.
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: Asante]
#5507496 - 04/12/06 10:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i have no problems with microsoft except a few things allready mentioned, one of them beeing weak security but this is mostly a concern for webadmins and people running ms based servers. but ms has played an important role in the computer evolution and has made it easy for everyone to use a computer.
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: Asante]
#5510224 - 04/12/06 10:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm actually neutral to them now. I was a bit more jaded with them for a while, until I started to get disillusioned with open source software as well.
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: Silversoul]
#5510978 - 04/13/06 02:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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disillusioned?
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: giz]
#5511132 - 04/13/06 04:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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> but ms has played an important role in the computer evolution and has made it easy for everyone to use a computer
This is not true. The "ease of computing" was stolen from Apple, which in turn was stolen from Xerox.
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: Seuss]
#5511208 - 04/13/06 06:01 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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true
but most great inventions were stolen
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Re: Microsoft - your opinions please? [Re: goobler]
#5511915 - 04/13/06 11:00 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Vulcanized tires weren't stolen.
Well... at least the idea wasn't
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