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Invisibletak
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what the fuck are we gonna do
    #547427 - 02/11/02 04:17 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I dunno, but for some reason i feel as though we need to do something. Computers seem to be somewhere in the picture. They make us insane, or atleast it feels that way. I had a dream today that my mom was like "And they can use mind control that easily" in refrences to computers. I hate them now, i wanna forget them and go live on an island. But they help us so much, do we really wanna preserve the way of life we had, or let it flow naturally as we evolve, no matter what the consequence? Memories are great, but you can't live in the past, only make way for the future. With this im scared. My mom today told me that we have a lesson to learn as each astrological sign. I don't know if this is true or not, ive heard it in the past though...but...what if we end our existance, and have no place to be re-born? How would we go about filling this destiny. When it comes down to it, I just feel insecure about how I take actions about things. I feel as though things should flow naturally, and theres such thing as fate, but then again...life is all we know, all we are, and all we have...why the hell not control every aspect of it to the way you like. I feel like that about girls sometimes too...im like "We are destined for eachother" then "if we arn't, ill make us" Is that kinda shit bad? I dunno, i havent posted in a while and had a bit on my mind, a bit of nothing, but rambling makes me who i am.

My horriscope mainly states that I am striving for these goals, but once i get there will i be satisfied. Is this what im looking for? What i really need is understanding. I find that to be real true, however i think personally im not striving for much. I want to be sucessfull, and my MAIN reason for that is to just live. All i wanna do is live, but in modern society, its hard to grow your own food and stuff :P So i need to work, and the easier it comes the better. Do i still need to understand?


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InvisibleUlysees
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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: tak]
    #547438 - 02/11/02 04:32 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

>I want to be sucessfull, and my MAIN reason for that is to just live. All i wanna do is live, but in modern society, its hard to grow your own food and stuff :P So i need to work, and the easier it comes the better. Do i still need to understand?

That's the natural urge of self preservation at all costs. You pretty much need that, but to be happy you have to be able to peacefully ignore it sometimes. Those who don't spend all their time trying to survive, but they don't make time to live. This presents many problems, many harmful to the very prime directive that they strive for.

As for the technology, just let if flow I suppose. I see a lot of benefit to the possibilities. At the same time I doubt I'll ever be able to take advantage of it, unless I start putting away more money... It's all a balance that you can never get exactly how you want. For each positive you want, you have to spend an equal negative.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/700338.asp?0dm=H21AN

That's something I just saw about combining flesh with machinery, to sum it up.

On this subject I'm still going to have to recommend Ray Kurzweil. The Age of Spiritual Machines is a very good read.


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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: tak]
    #547736 - 02/11/02 12:23 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Society is headed in a bad direction, there trying to make everything based on routine. I don't know if youve ever read any Carlos Castenada books, but routine is bad, people werent meant to have routine. Just let yourself experience a few days of randomness, no plans, no routine and you'll see how amazing randomness can be.

Another problem with todays society is they are trying to make less and less physical work and more and more mental work. If you have a mental problem, on of the best ways to clear your mind is some physical work, cause when your physically active your brain releases endorphins that make you happy. When people are doing mental work it just clutters up their mind and causes more mental problems.

I believe that a society can be enlightened, it's just a matter of everyone realizing that everyday you wake up, your a day closer to death. So you should never waste any of your time feeling bad. Water flowing down a stream doesn't stop when it comes to a rock, it goes around it. You should never let anything get you down and you should always just be happy.

I also think that their is a big change coming soon. You can just tell from society's vibe that their hopeless and depressed, and the government is doing things to try and keep them working in their routine society, like patriotism, fuck patriotism! why should people be seperated by countries, were all the same weather were american or japanese or whatever. Anyways, I think theirs a HUGE change bound for society, the government cant stop it, they can only postpone it. I don't think society is going to able to stand being so hopless and depressed for much longer.

=)

As you can see, i'm quite a rambler.

Jeff


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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: Jeff17]
    #547755 - 02/11/02 12:36 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I just decided that i'm going to make a topic out of this post.

Jeff


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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: Jeff17]
    #547763 - 02/11/02 12:41 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Ramble all you want, I like what you're saying!


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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: skaMariaPastora]
    #549603 - 02/13/02 03:23 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Every single person is a human from earth.

I do not like any divisions. We are all humans of planet earth and we have not embraced it yet. Acknowledged yes, but we have not embraced it fully yet, just partially.

The example I'm going to pick for my point is relevant to what is going on right now in society. The Olympics.


The Olympics does a great job of Division by dividing countries and making them compete, When it all comes down to it, on Television at the end of every broadcast, they give you the breakdown of which country has the most medals...
And there are no names......

Competeing countries.... We are not embracing humanity in it's entirety as one. But as many seperate divisions.

BUT at the same time, like I said, they acknowledge we are all humans of earth and we do all come together as a world to celebrate our athletes and have 2 weeks where we all join and watch the world!

It is human nature to compete, having countries is just this on a large scale.

We always want to be the best, Countries are just a very large collection of people wanting to be the best.





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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: Zylo]
    #550274 - 02/13/02 05:45 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I agree, I think the Olympics just further divide us and make us feel like we need to be better than everyone else, as individuals and as countries. When it comes down to it, all sports do the same thing. They're games, but they play on everyone's innate desire to appear superior to others. I think the value we put on such things in our society is sad. Cooperation and love, not competition and hate.


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Awareness [Re: Jeff17]
    #550452 - 02/13/02 08:57 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I don't believe that routine itself is bad, as there can be habits/routines which reinforce positive behaviour and thought processes as well as those that promote the negatives. I think the key is awareness of our habits and the level of control they have over our thoughts and actions. Once we have an awareness of the process we can begin to consciously influence our routines in a positive direction,
Regards,
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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: Ulysees]
    #550649 - 02/14/02 12:39 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I personally believe that technology will be our undoing. {steps up on soap box}
With computers we are seperated from human contact. Sure we can talk to people from all around the world, but your mind is all that shows through with little to no soul. With this happening the darker sides of our minds begin to show. Why? Because we have no retribution for these actions, everyone else is on the other side of the world. If I speak of fesces it doesn't matter 'cuz I'll never see any of you in person to see your disgusted look and downcast eyes. So much of what begins to show through is, well you guessed it.....Sex, and malice. Why else do you think there is so much arguing on the internet? And whats the number one industry of the internet, well porn of course.

Machines also bring more stress into our lives. We work for days and hours stressed and angry at our computer for not working properly, all the time losing sleep, upsetting our family members etc....Just trying to perhaps type out an essay due for a sociology class, when instead we could grab a peice of paper and a pen and be done without the trouble. We through the frustration of microwaves that are supposed to cook our food faster, but leave it frozen in the middle, then when we eat it, it tastes horrible. All these little conveniences may save us a little more time during the day, but as what cost? Then we go and fill that extra time with even more work and stress. So we may get more done during a day, but at the end of the day we are stressed and tired. At the end of a month or even a year of this day to day routine of stress we edge closer and closer to a nervous breakdown. Humans were not built for this stress. We were built to do enough work to survive then kick back the rest of the day and enjoy the peace of life. Why do you think most older societies have so many parties and festivals? Its because we are built to enjoy life, not be stressed. Happier more laid back people (not lazy couch potatoes) live longer than actively stressed people. Even our closest animal relatives spend the bulk of their day just chillin in the forest canopy or basking in the light that peaks through the trees. Why can't we just do this?
{steps off soap box}


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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #550658 - 02/14/02 12:44 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

That reply sounds about a un-trendy as is humanly possible:)


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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #550667 - 02/14/02 12:54 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I agree that technology sucks and will most likely be our undoing, but I think this computerized form of communication is in some ways better than traditional communication. First, we can communicate with like-minded people from all over the world, and actually have time to explain our thoughts fully and without interruption as opposed to the real time nature of actual conversation. And although we are able to act with impunity due to our lack of negative consequences, I think the vast majority of peope on the shroomery (I can only think of a couple who do not) behave perfectly reasonable and intelligently. I for one can talk about some things that rarely come up in everyday conversation, and I can get so much more and varied feedback.

But I definately think that although technology is supposed to make life easier, all it really does is free up time to do more unpleasant things and overall make it more complicated.


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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: skaMariaPastora]
    #550697 - 02/14/02 01:37 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

You can use technology, or let it use you. I've been wasting way too much time, letting the pretty things along the way pull me away from what I should be doing. Other people have been profiting from my time.
No more.


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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: tak]
    #550884 - 02/14/02 06:30 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

We are at the edge of something, it's like reality or realities have stoped to function erratically and now they head in straight line to something, the word 'Wait' has a diferent meanning to me.
Computers, this machines, i like to control them, not to be controled by them. They're needed to do some tasks, well it's my life since i was 12, i might be a little tired of seeing them every fucking day, work with them, build them, program them, play them, take care of them, clean them, modify them.... well you see, they are like babies needing care or just a monster ready to haunt you the rest of the day.
When you are bondless all you want to do is to live.

Peace,
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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: MentalHygene]
    #551541 - 02/14/02 06:17 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

No, its the cool thing to do...I mean despise mankind and all its technology. Its like being bipolar and on lithium with dead beat parents. Didn't you know that? I'm the most popular guy on my block.


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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #551920 - 02/15/02 12:08 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Ahhh.. Internet.. Tthe Last bastion of free speech. The Net is riddled with pr0n. I'm sick of it.. The Camgirl revolution is another image cult permeating the cypberspace. And then there's the cuckoos and perverted freaks out there saying whatever please them but never would they dare do in person.....

human degradation to the lowest form I've seen is beyond my understanding..


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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: ArCh_TemPlaR]
    #552323 - 02/15/02 10:45 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Big brother is listening
The computers are a crutch for us
We're getting addicted to technology and it is sooooo mind bending and comfortablly numbing.....

But hey, the alternative is going back to goat skins and spears...


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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: Tannis]
    #552699 - 02/15/02 04:18 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

You can sell/smash your computer and live just fine. I'm going to have to get rid of this thing and get a typewriter... I really should be working but I often end up kicking around here instead.


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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: Ulysees]
    #552888 - 02/15/02 07:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

makes me think about this little movie that came out about 2 years ago Matrix??


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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: Ulysees]
    #553393 - 02/16/02 09:37 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Let's keep our computers----work when we need to---and go goat hunting some weekend....

Technology is good---Its "we" who get dependent on it.....


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Re: what the fuck are we gonna do [Re: Tannis]
    #553710 - 02/16/02 05:35 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds good, though I'll just catch and release my goats. Unless I'm hungry.


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