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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Waking up tired.
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First issue is napping:
There is nothing I want to do more than nap, generally speaking. This does not mean that I'm tired throughout the day, but any spare time I have can generally be spent teetering in and out of consciousness.

But naps are not refrehing unless I spend several hours into them and go into REM sleep. So like it's a chore to have to get up, and I don't feel like doing anything but sleeping all day long if I take one. I just got up out of one and feel groggy and un-motivated, it will pass in 15 minutes or so. I also note that my throat chakra feels wide open, or rather, i feel strong amounts of chi in it.

The second issue: Normal sleep.
So when I go to bed, it doesn't matter if I get 7 hours, 8 hours.... 12 hours..... It's rare that when I wake up I have energy. I can always go right back to sleep, and if I can't go right back to sleep I still don't feel rested anyway.

Is it lack of sunlight in my room? I really do think that may be the culprit, but I also wonder if I'm getting enough deep sleep or not.It's not to say I'm always tired when I wake up in the morning, if I wake up naturally I can choose to get up, but I'm "tired" enough to immediately go back to sleep and feel like sleeping for many more hours, which will only make me further tired to begin with.

It's more that I don't wake up feeling like I have much energy to start the day with.

Third issue: When I fall asleep, I am not ASLEEP until I make it into REM. I mean when I take my naps, I will just go drifting drifting drifting awake. Drifting drifting drifting awake. Each time drifting a little more but still semi-conscious, sometimes fully "conscious" in the sense that I maintain vague awareness of breath or body or sleep sensations.

This same thing happens to me at night. Drift / awake. Drift / awake. I generally let myself do this enough to where when I drift I go pretty deep, then I have to try to *not* fall asleep and just roll over and let my mind wander so that somehow I just wind up being asleep without even realizing it. Because for me its just not hard to initiate the sleep process and get my mind to start floating away, but its hard to float ALL THE WAY there.

Thoughts?

It's to where I can approach a hynpagogic state but I can't stay in it. Like I raised energy up and down only in the third eye and crown thinking it would help me fall asleep quickly (i was right) and so I hear this little wooshey psychedelic noise in the center of my forehead, but whenever I go into the hypnagogic state I quickly exit it wide awake again. I don't know how to choose to stay there or to go into it fully conscious and have been trying to for quite a few years.

The same happens when going to sleep normally.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

Edited by leery11 (02/23/06 11:22 AM)

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Re: Waking up tired. [Re: leery11]
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Try a good breakfast to wake you up. I've been feeling groggy as hell lately just eating cereal, but then I switched to making heaping piles of hot oatmeal in the morning. I wake right up after a hot breakfast like that and feel great all day; can't say the same for cereal though. Just a suggestion.

That, and avoid oversleeping. as it can make you more tired than not getting enough sleep in some instances.


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To find a place to live between the negatives and positives.

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Re: Waking up tired. [Re: Holydiver]
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That, and avoid oversleeping. as it can make you more tired than not getting enough sleep in some instances.


this is key

and lets say if you have to wake up at 10 for whatever reason, but you wake up at 9 on your own...don't go back to sleep. once you body has woken itself up it like to stay that way. whenever i go back to sleep in this situation im tired for the rest of the day.

and as tempting as it may be, hour long naps probably hurt you more than they help you.


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-Groucho Marx

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Re: Waking up tired. [Re: leery11]
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Sleep for a consistant time. Like make it to where you get 8 hours of sleep. After awhile your inner clock knows when to wake up.

But I also have trouble taking a nap and feeling like a lazy bum the rest of the day.


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Re: Waking up tired. [Re: bobjones]
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bobjones said:
and lets say if you have to wake up at 10 for whatever reason, but you wake up at 9 on your own...don't go back to sleep. once you body has woken itself up it like to stay that way. whenever i go back to sleep in this situation im tired for the rest of the day.



but I wake up 3-4 times per night easily.

lets say I wake up after my first REM around 1-3 a.m. (depending on the conditions I can go back to sleep without moving), maybe I don't wake up for a few REMs and string them together to have longer dreams.

then lets say I wake up at 4 or 5 a.m. Then lets say I wake up at 6. Then 7. Then 8.

I mean I wake up a lot, how do I know which wake up is the right one to get up for the morning? I know what you mean like if I wake up and I see "oh man I only have 45 minutes of sleep til I have to get up for the day" then it would be good to just get up anyway...... which I will sometimes do.

But It's not like I set my head down and the next second its 7 a.m. and i'm like "ahhhhh that was nice" I wake up all the time. Everyone does really, REM sleep, especially in the later portions of the night is very close to being awake as it is.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

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Re: Waking up tired. [Re: leery11]
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I know what you mean like if I wake up and I see "oh man I only have 45 minutes of sleep til I have to get up for the day


try turning your clock around at night. knowing what time it is just makes it worse.


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"Outside of a dog a book is a man's friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read"
-Groucho Marx

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Re: Waking up tired. [Re: bobjones]
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same here, usually i blame it on this world that seems to suffer of chronic anemia. sleep wins

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Re: Waking up tired. [Re: leery11]
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First thing I would suggest is making sure you have good circadian rhythms. Get into a good cycle of getting around 8 hours of sleep consistently every night for a few weeks. Take a little melatonin before bed to help you get to sleep and stay asleep as well as have more vivid dreams. Also, exercise helps you sleep better as well as just be overall more healthy. If you smoke lots of pot, it can interfere with your sleeping patterns, so watch out for that.

If you try all this and still wake up frequently and don't feel rested, I'd suggest getting a sleep study done. Find a place around where you live, you get to spend a night in a small room with all sorts of electrodes and wires hooked up to you. Then you sleep and they measure what your body does and see if anything is off.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Waking up tired. [Re: dblaney]
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I've done a sleep study and it was worthless.

At the time I was having issues with apnea and that night I couldn't sleep worth shit and ALL my apnea problems surfaced.... zoning out to sleep .... stop breathing.... wake up because I stopped breathing. It happened 3-4 times at least.

The results? nothing "abnormal" wtf.

But yeah I dunno. I don't smoke or eat much pot at all..... I use melatonin once in a while.... I don't know what it is except just complete lack of sunlight. it's always dark in my room.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

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