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Polyphasic Sleep
#5268413 - 02/06/06 02:54 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i am going to try this and see how it works out. basically, polyphasic sleep is sleeping for about 30 minutes every 4 hours. i will take a 30 minute nap at 12am, 4am, 8am, noon, 4pm, and 8pm.
i have yet to devise a way to wake myself up that wont wake up everyone within a 2 mile radius. i think i may use my ipod and ear buds. record 25 minutes of silence followed by something like rage against the machine or old nine inch nails. i will start this tomorrow at 8am.
i'll keep you guys updated.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5268414 - 02/06/06 02:55 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5268419 - 02/06/06 03:07 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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ok, i just finished my playlist. radiohead - treefingers plays 8 times in a row. then to wake up is 'tool - mantra' then 'nin - the way out is through' to start to bring me out of sleep, then 'everclear - heroin girl' to make sure i am waking up.
i am getting excited about this. i will report back everytime i go to sleep and wake up (dialup permitting).
see you guys in 4 hours with the first installment
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5268468 - 02/06/06 03:39 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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it's about 4 now. i'll start my cycle now instead of waiting 4 hours. lets see if i can be back in 30-40 minutes.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5268583 - 02/06/06 06:04 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Apparently he hasn't gotten back up yet.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5268587 - 02/06/06 06:09 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ive heard some negative things about this.
The major one is that your body will set its circadian rhythm to this sleep cycle. Thus if you don't get that nap, it will feel as though you didn't sleep an entire night. Your body will start to need the sleep.
Also, you are depriving yourself of the deep sleep state. That is the point in sleep where your body and mind get the most rest.
An alternative to this is to break your sleep into 2/3 parts.
As an example, Ill use myself.
I have class at noon every weekday. So, I would go to bed at 8/9PM and sleep for four hours. Wake up around 1/2. Around 6AM, I would go back to sleep. I would sleep until 10/11AM. Then repeat the cycle. The key here is to not get into a completely steady cycle. On the weekends, I sleep the normal 8 full hours. Thus I do not NEED the first nap. However, just having the mindset that you're taking a nap and not a sleep will make it easy to wake up after only 4 hours of sleep.
The beauty of this is that there is never rushing to wake up. I never have to use an alarm as my body just 'knows' that I shouldn't be sleeping any more than 4 hours. This is vital to not feeling tired. You also will go into a deep sleep cycle twice before waking up, so the schedule never catches up to you.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: gregorio]
#5268612 - 02/06/06 06:35 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
gregorio said: Apparently he hasn't gotten back up yet.
nah, i got up. instead of sleeping 30 minutes, i slept 45, though. i dont know if that will change anything... we'll see. i am pretty tired. my next nap is in about 30 minutes.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5268619 - 02/06/06 06:41 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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im interested how this goes. keep us updated on the progress!
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5268621 - 02/06/06 06:42 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Everyone I've ever heard try this, myself included, has not viewed it favorably.
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nap time
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5268680 - 02/06/06 07:34 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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back. i need to come up with a better way to wake myself. the noon, 4pm, 8pm, and midnight naps should be better because i can get my wife to wake me, but i forsee 4am and 8am tomorrow being a pain to wake from.
i am tired, but plan to stick with this for at least a month.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5268691 - 02/06/06 07:45 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Your body was pretty much designed to sleep once, maybe twice per day.
I can only imagine the havok that may be wreaked-- unseen by you and I-- as a result of a polyphasic sleep rhythm.
Not to mention the fact that it would probably make a full-time job nearly impossible.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: Konnrade]
#5268696 - 02/06/06 07:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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it wont have any effect on my job.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5268700 - 02/06/06 07:51 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's good, what's your work schedule like?
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: Konnrade]
#5268729 - 02/06/06 08:09 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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two months on, two months off. when on, i never work more than 3 hours at a time.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5269347 - 02/06/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wow, that sounds convenient. Must be nice 
And it gives you the chance to do experiments like this. How do you feel? Still tired?
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5269487 - 02/06/06 01:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
automan said: two months on, two months off. when on, i never work more than 3 hours at a time.
woah man! now thats a nice job!
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5269566 - 02/06/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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noon nap went kind of odd. i went to bed at 12:15, probably fell asleep at 12:25. my wife said it took an amazing amount of work to get me to wake up. i awoke at 1:15, so i slept 50 minutes... i overshot by 20 minutes. we'll see how it effects my next nap at 4pm. i have to say, i dont know if i will be tired in an hour, though.
i feel like i've been tripping for a few days. you know, like when you eat 15 hits over the course of 24 hours. i feel sort of detached from myself, but seemingly able to focus. i doubt this is from the cycle because there is no way i am tuned into the cycle after 1/4 day. i attribute it to some body function that helps people survive and cope under stress. i very much think that i will get much worse before i start to get into the benefits of this.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5269590 - 02/06/06 02:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah I can't imagine the adjustment period would be too pleasant.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5269680 - 02/06/06 02:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
automan said: i very much think that i will get much worse before i start to get into the benefits of this.
what are the benefits of this? i still havent figured it out...
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: eligal]
#5269688 - 02/06/06 02:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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extra time to get stuff done without sacrificing ability to focus (once in the rhythm of it).
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5269745 - 02/06/06 02:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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As a person who often fucks up my sleep schedule I can testify that the following is a fact:
When you are in a period of transitioning from the sleep rhythm that you've allready got going on and a different sleep rhythm that you're forcing your behavior to follow... you will tend to feel pretty lousy.
The effects I notice are that I'll be perpetually tired, I'll feel like it's bedtime at seemingly random points of time that aren't really related to either schedule. I'll have difficulty with some higher cognitive functions (complex math, logic, problem solving, understanding speech), and I experience very unstable mood swings.
So you'll probably feel generally unhappy until the rhythm you are following now becomes programmed into your mind's software. For such a drastic change as this, I'd guess that it will take at least one week before you can start to be reasonably certain that it's the sleep schedule itself that is causing any differences as opposed to the transition.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5269830 - 02/06/06 03:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
automan said: noon nap went kind of odd. i went to bed at 12:15, probably fell asleep at 12:25. my wife said it took an amazing amount of work to get me to wake up. i awoke at 1:15, so i slept 50 minutes... i overshot by 20 minutes. we'll see how it effects my next nap at 4pm. i have to say, i dont know if i will be tired in an hour, though.
It sounds like you're waking up pre-REM...
just another link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep
good luck
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: Konnrade]
#5269871 - 02/06/06 03:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh, also be on the lookout for these symptoms:
Change in appetite, hearburn/upset stomach, short term memory problems.
Those are usually associated with feeling fatigued, in my experience.
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i decided to try this in the summer.
i made it one day.
not worth it IMO. I wanted it for immediate lucid dream access.....
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: leery11]
#5270639 - 02/06/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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well, i went down for the 4pm nap... probably fell asleep around 4:30, woke up at 5, but dozed back off from 5:30-6pm. i dont know what that does for the schedule. i feel freaking great, though... wide away. i thought of just starting over again in a day or 2... but that would be quitting. even with the fuck ups i am dedicated to seeing what this is like. i will take my next nap on schedule at 8pm.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5270866 - 02/06/06 06:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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haha you haven't been able to stick the schedule once yet. This sounds like way too much work to supposedly "gain extra time to do things". Just sleep regularly and stop posting on the shroomery if you want more free time.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5271021 - 02/06/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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WAKEY WAKEY, EGGS `N` BAKEY!
I've got 8:30 here!
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he failed....
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: eligal]
#5272204 - 02/07/06 01:47 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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no sir, i am sticking to it. i just see no point in saying everytime i got to sleep and wake up. i will give a daily report now that the first day is over. i have done ever cycle correctly since the last time i posted. i'll do my next post tomorrow around 12:30pm.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5272362 - 02/07/06 05:59 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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How could this work with a job or school schedule? I could never do this...I spend like 15-20 mins just gettin to sleep and then spend another 20 trying to get up.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5272910 - 02/07/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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That would be pretty tough for me. I find myself with lots of energy after sleeping even for a very small amount of time. Besides not being able to wake up easily, I can wake up from a nap and not be able to go back to sleep for 24+ hours sometimes. Have you had trouble falling asleep at all on these naps?
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: eris]
#5273534 - 02/07/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i had a terrible time falling asleep at 4am this morning.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5287607 - 02/10/06 11:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Daily update? Hum Dee Dum?
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: GrapeSoda]
#5296494 - 02/13/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Having 5 hours of extra time a day can mean alot more than you think.
But yeah.
It would be tough to get adjusted and such, and also I am not so sure it is healthy. But I am going to look into it further and maybe try it out this summer or next year when I have more flexible a schedule.
I am excited to see how you do.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5298196 - 02/14/06 06:15 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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7 days and no update?
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the bastards asleep!!
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: eligal]
#5301084 - 02/14/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I heard Da Vinci used to do this...I dont think I could do it personally. Sounds like a lot of discipline is required.
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HagbardCeline said: 7 days and no update?
He's doing this new thing. 7 days asleep, 7 days awake.
Bimonthly sleep.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: mrsautoman]
#5302527 - 02/15/06 09:46 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Is that a joke?
The other schedule at least made some sense. Sleep has been shown not to be cumulative. Whenever test subjects have been kept up for long periods of time, they still only needed a normal 8 hours of sleep to recover. That you needn't make up your entire deficit when deprived has been one of the aspects of sleep that most intrigued researchers.
I thought he was all gung-ho about giving the 30 min. system at least 30 days before making any conclusions. Guess not.
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Re: Polyphasic Sleep [Re: automan]
#5472731 - 04/02/06 11:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Remember this?
You were supposed to report back but never did. I've asked you several times but you seem to be ignoring me for some reason.
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