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Wouldn't crumbling a cake for a casing cause bruising and damage to the mycelium?
    #5289538 - 02/11/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Just wondering...


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Re: Wouldn't crumbling a cake for a casing cause bruising and damage to the mycelium? [Re: Cubensis420]
    #5289554 - 02/11/06 05:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, but it recovers


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Re: Wouldn't crumbling a cake for a casing cause bruising and damage to the mycelium? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5289572 - 02/11/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

How fine should it be crumbled then?


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Re: Wouldn't crumbling a cake for a casing cause bruising and damage to the mycelium? [Re: Cubensis420]
    #5289577 - 02/11/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I always heard Nickle sized chunks... and crumbling a cake cant hurt any more than pounding a jar of birdseed to brake it up


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Re: Wouldn't crumbling a cake for a casing cause bruising and damage to the mycelium? [Re: Cubensis420]
    #5289578 - 02/11/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

If you're casing, you can put it in a coffee grinder or food processor.  Each little piece will be an inoculation point...in the thousands.  :thumbup:


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Re: Wouldn't crumbling a cake for a casing cause bruising and damage to the mycelium? [Re: Cubensis420]
    #5289579 - 02/11/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Me I crumble, I use WBS or Rye, till there are small clumps of only a few.

But some use a cheese grater or a food processor :ooo:

So.........I guess anything up to that :wink:


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Re: Wouldn't crumbling a cake for a casing cause bruising and damage to the mycelium? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5289632 - 02/11/06 06:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Food processor? It would have to be cleaned very thourougly, wouldn't it? Or is colonized mycelium less vulnerable to contamination?


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Re: Wouldn't crumbling a cake for a casing cause bruising and damage to the mycelium? [Re: Cubensis420]
    #5289635 - 02/11/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yes anyway you do it, and you have to be careful not to make Mycelium paste  :wink:


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Re: Wouldn't crumbling a cake for a casing cause bruising and damage to the mycelium? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5289763 - 02/11/06 07:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Excellent question.

Let me ask this. If you have a cake and break it up for a casing, then why not just use popcorn instead of a cake and not have to break things up. This should be less damage to the mycelium, no?


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Re: Wouldn't crumbling a cake for a casing cause bruising and damage to the mycelium? [Re: Delinquentes]
    #5289776 - 02/11/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Popcorn would not be a cake, now your taking Grains, but yes and no.

I believe it is not an issue, I have not experience any that I am aware of, if you don't over do it.


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Re: Wouldn't crumbling a cake for a casing cause bruising and damage to the mycelium? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5289803 - 02/11/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Right on the popcorn being a cake. I am tossed on using BRF cake vs using Popcorn. Popcorn (or any grain) just seems to colonize better than a cake. Even though it is my first time, I am going to case regardless.


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Re: Wouldn't crumbling a cake for a casing cause bruising and damage to the mycelium? [Re: Delinquentes]
    #5289837 - 02/11/06 07:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah case it to hpoo, grain and such just have more nuts.

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Re: Wouldn't crumbling a cake for a casing cause bruising and damage to the mycelium? [Re: Cubensis420]
    #5290471 - 02/11/06 11:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Ok enough bad advice! NO GRINDERS OR FOOD PROCESSORS! The reason being is simple enough grains will be ruptured exposing uncolonized highly nutritious grains for possible contamination. Just crumble up until nickel sized. KISS guys please :hug:


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Re: Wouldn't crumbling a cake for a casing cause bruising and damage to the mycelium? [Re: hyphae]
    #5290934 - 02/12/06 08:13 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

thank god, this guys Pinning strategy is where i got Nickle sized chunks, ive done this and it worked like a charm. Use his bag idea too, its easy as hell and keeps out contams.


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Re: Wouldn't crumbling a cake for a casing cause bruising and damage to the mycelium? [Re: Cub_Mycologist]
    #5290968 - 02/12/06 08:47 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Heh....

Crumble and case is the best thing you can do with a cake...

take this for example, after your cakes are done and you birth them. give them a 18 hour dunk, cook up a extra batch of substrate and while its still hot crumble up your cake and mix it up in with the hot substrate (Under sterile conditions!!!!!) i.e disinfect the air, wash your hands ect ect.

After its been mixed up, place it into your casing container and put your lid on and then let it recover....two weeks later you'll have a whole case with great myc growth, next, apply your casing layer and put it back into darkness until you see myc popping up in a few spots, and now it would be time to fruit your casing :smile:

That is what crumble and case means...to me atleast and I dont have a problem with mine. Have a good one man, and gl


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Re: Wouldn't crumbling a cake for a casing cause bruising and damage to the mycelium? [Re: Pr0_X]
    #5290986 - 02/12/06 09:02 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I derive a lot pleasure from breaking the cakes up with my bare(sterile)hands. Just pull the cakes apart until they are a pile of marble or BB sized chunks...I swear that handling the cakes like that makes me trip a little bit too!  :biggrin:


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