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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Thanks to my P&S brethren
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You guys have saved me tens of thousands of dollars in analysis by pointing out all of my personality defects and flaws when your arguments run flat. I am now a much better person knowing that I am all twisted inside and closed-off to nonsensical ideas.

Keep up the good work as this is what philosophy is all about. :thumbup:

Extra kudos go to the mods for allowing the non-stop personalisms.

To all those who stay on topic and actually discuss ideas: :razz:


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: Swami]
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sometimes people have critisisms for the way in which you discuss ideas.

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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: Deviate]
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and sometimes believe it or not your "arguments run flat" as well. Youd do well to realize that sometimes. I concede faults in my arguments when I see them. I dont think i have seen you do so. No one is right all the time man even you. That said theplace wouldnt be the same without you, I've said mean things about you I know and apologize, but your still too cocky(this isnt an insult its constructive critisim). Your really smart man intellectually but you really need to work on your people skills.

peace

blaze2


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"Religion without science is blind, Science without religion is lame." Albert Einstein

"peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein

"Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: Swami]
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And thank YOU for continually challenging our harmless beliefs, so that we may yet see the light of pure rationality before we feel compelled to wage a holy war in the name of peace, love, and general goodwill towards others. I'd hate to be caught in the middle of such a thing only to realize that there is not, in fact, such a thing as a soul, or that we aren't really semi-independent manifestations of a single mind. I'd feel like such a fool!

:heart:

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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: Swami]
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Did I hurt your feelings?

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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: blaze2]
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but you really need to work on your people skills

Is this the Social Forum or the Pub? No.

The Let's All Make Each Other Feel Good Forum? Nope.

AA or other support group therapy session. Nyet.

The nefarious Koombayah Forum? Keep trying.

Let's see what Shroomism has to say about this forum that everyone should have read by now:

"You can bring to bear all your rhetorical skills and articulate arguments in an attempt to expose the idea under discussion as ludicrous, repugnant or whatever - as a matter of fact you are encouraged to do so - but the acceptable method is to direct all your weaponry at the idea being presented, not at the one presenting the idea.

If you choose to post in this forum be prepared to have your ideas and opinions challenged, refuted, disputed, rebutted, analyzed, shredded, pooh-poohed, and yes - even supported. If having your beliefs, opinions, and positions scrutinized critically makes you uncomfortable, this is not the forum for you. "


Which one of us strays further from this guideline?


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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: Swami]
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You don't get outside very often, do you?

If you've taken any offense to anything said in S&P, then wow man. Just...wow.

I've spent 3 years in OTD and have yet to be offended.

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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: GulGen]
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And thank YOU for continually challenging our harmless beliefs

You're welcome. Read my previous post concerning the purpose of this forum.


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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: Swami]
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:bitch:

Through discussion comes learning.


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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: spud]
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Did I hurt your feelings?

What feelings?


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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: spud]
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you shouldnt only do things just cause they are the rule( i realize i have broken that rule), and you needn't always have "rational" reason to do something. You can bring to bear all your rhetorical skills and articulate arguments in an attempt to expose the idea under discussion as ludicrous, repugnant or whatever, and do it civily and with respect to the idea you are attacking. One does not Preclude the other.

Heres a hint, more people actually listen and take your ideas to heart when you speak kindly. The way you just state your "facts" and argue about the way to ague( i mean come on thats pretty lame man) and all that just makes it that much harder for people to care about what you are saying.

I guarentee I could argue your points better than you could, and get people to actually hear them as opposed to just having people mad at you all the time and not understanding why people direct things at you, instead of your ideas. You must be flexible and consider arguments as a whole instead of each sentence seperatly like you do for one. You have to see that what you do isnt working at least. I'm sure you'll make your own decisions, but you should realize that changing your ways wouldnt mean youd lose, it just means youd be different than you were. Anyways You are very stubburn(and if you havent been told that before now I'm the queen of england) and I'm sure youll jsut disregard everything I just wrote. I wish you wouldnt, cause you really are a smart guy, but you would be smarter if you would let go of your arrogance. Peace

blaze2


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"Religion without science is blind, Science without religion is lame." Albert Einstein

"peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein

"Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: spud]
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spud said:
If you've taken any offense to anything said in S&P, then wow man. Just...wow.




First off, its hard to take offense from something suspossedly said in a forum that does not exist. What is the name of this forum again? :lol:

Second off, I admit that I am not able to discern where it has been that Swami has implied having taken offense. Please clarify, as you obviously have proposed the preposition that he may have taken offense. What exactly is it concerning his post that suggests that he may have?

By the way, Spud, if you might have taken offense here in this thread, then, wow, man, just, whoa... unbelievably wow, man. My god, wow.... wow. Wow.  :eek: Whoa nelly, whoa wow wow whoa wow.

Wow. Just, you know, wow.

Wow.

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: Swami]
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swami when your arguments go flat you don't respond any better than the people that prompted your creation of this thread. i can recall several instances where you simply ignored peoples entire rebuttles.

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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: fireworks_god]
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Excuse me, sir, I'm drunk and it appears I have misplaced the order of P&S. Thank you for bringing this critical error to all of our attention. I am sure we can all sleep better tonight and the world is a safer place in general!  :heart: :heart: :heart:

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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: fireworks_god]
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Fireworks the very making of this post says that he has been bothered by it, and Swami you may be the most cocky unspiritual person here, but you are still human and have emotions, why act like you dont there is nothing wrong with admitting when your feelings have been hurt. In fact alot of poeple would respond with compassion if you opened up some, but then again there are lots of juveniles that would probrobly make fun. A real man knows his emotions and has no shame in saying so.


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"Religion without science is blind, Science without religion is lame." Albert Einstein

"peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein

"Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: Deviate]
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Deviate said:
swami when your arguments go flat you don't respond any better than the people that prompted your creation of this thread. i can recall several instances where you simply ignored peoples entire rebuttles.



Feel free to demonstrate this. There is no sense in making a statement concerning the nature of something without providing for us that which you base your understanding upon. Otherwise it is simply unsubstantiated conjecture, and it is not possible to engage in a discussion of ideas.

Otherwise, I could simply say "Oh yeah, Deviate? I recall several times when you have made posts where you don't post better than someone else and I can remember countless times where you just ignore the point and blah blah blah".

How does someone debate something like that? "Nu-uh, mang, I always respond better than those I am questioning and I always directly address the point". "Fuck you, man, I remember differently". etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum.

Perhaps he only ignores rebutalls like these, the conjectured ones that cannot actually be discussed? :smirk:

"Nu-uh, mang, he ignores valid ones! I remember!"

REAL productive manner of discussion, folks. :lol:

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: Deviate]
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Spud: You don't get outside very often, do you?

Deviate: i can recall several instances where you simply ignored peoples entire rebuttles.


Should I get out more or spend more time responding? You two talk among yourselves, figure it out and get back to me.


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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: fireworks_god]
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fireworks_god said:
Deviate said:
swami when your arguments go flat you don't respond any better than the people that prompted your creation of this thread. i can recall several instances where you simply ignored peoples entire rebuttles.



Feel free to demonstrate this. There is no sense in making a statement concerning the nature of something without providing for us that which you base your understanding upon. Otherwise it is simply unsubstantiated conjecture, and it is not possible to engage in a discussion of ideas.

Otherwise, I could simply say "Oh yeah, Deviate? I recall several times when you have made posts where you don't post better than someone else and I can remember countless times where you just ignore the point and blah blah blah".

How does someone debate something like that? "Nu-uh, mang, I always respond better than those I am questioning and I always directly address the point". "Fuck you, man, I remember differently". etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum.

Perhaps he only ignores rebutalls like these, the conjectured ones that cannot actually be discussed? :smirk:

"Nu-uh, mang, he ignores valid ones! I remember!"

REAL productive manner of discussion, folks. :lol:

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:




swami knows what im talking about as ive discussed it with him before and i provided multiple specific examples in that discussion. i don't feel like trying to look through old posts and dig them up now, its late and im too tired to begin some kind of formal debate.

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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: Swami]
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Hope you're feeling well Swami.


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Re: Thanks to my P&S brethren [Re: Deviate]
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Deviate said:
swami knows what im talking about as ive discussed it with him before and i provided multiple specific examples in that discussion.



That reminds me of finding trash that my dog has chewed up an hour after the fact, and confronting him about it, when he more than likely doesn't remember it anymore. "He knows what he's done!". Yeah, right.  :rolleyes:

I remember confronting you about all of those times that you said you loved smacking old people around and then running away. I gave you examples then. Don't forget it. See, same thing. :smirk:

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i don't feel like trying to look through old posts and dig them up now, its late and im too tired to begin some kind of formal debate.



If you do not wish to begin some kind of formal debate, then do not start one by proposing unsubstantiated claims for discussion. Simple.

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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