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 fireworks_god
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 The Fireworks_God Challenge 
#1740468 - 07/23/03 05:10 AM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would like to first offer my apologies to the fabled Swami for ripping off his franchise; however, what I'm about to challenge seems a better way of overcoming personal predjuices that act as a fault, than, for comparison, LikwidDrawp's "eat 50g of mushrooms and take a serious fucking look at what you've become" method.
My challenge goes out to anyone who has an emotional or ideaological hangup that prevents them from seeing some Simple Truths in life. It will hopefully allow one to temporarily "escape" their emotional ties to the ground, offering a fresh change of perspective that will allow them to examine another's words from an unbiased point of view. It will also allow them to examine their own words from this uncorrupted point of view, granting them ability to find faults in their own programming, so they can start on the road to a higher state of consciousness, where such things as anger, hatred, and security issues will no longer cloud your perceptions. Doing so will free up more energy in your life, allow you to see all issues in a clearer light, and open the path to Enlightenment.
I challenge anyone afflicted by the faults described above to give up your sense of identiy, to not let anything challenge your beliefs or ideas held, to forget that you even exist at all. What I challenge is entirely possible (some work, however, may be required to do this, as some people are more rooted in their self image than others). Once you have cleared yourself of all of this, then read the words someone is saying, and let the meanings they are expressing s-o-a-k innnnn. No strain is even required, as long as your identity of self has been released (no more examing words to find an immediate threat to your pride, no more comparing their thoughts to your own experiences to prove if they are right or not, and no more "missing the point").
If you sucessfully take this challenge, you will find that you are no longer speaking in generalizations, you are no longer ignoring anyone, and that you are no longer needlessy proving yourself right, whether or not you actually are. You are free of negative and pointless programs constantly that previously ran through your head without contest or even recognition of the fact that they are running.
Now, as you have experienced the loss of an identity that truly does not need to be "defended" any longer, and experienced what it is like to truly hear what someone else is trying to say, you will find your self more susceptible to Truths so simple and obvious that one does not need to strain to receive, but one could never realize before. And that much energy is free to be used on something even more fufilling and constructive. Good luck, fellow travelers.
Peace.
Oh, and in the words of the great, not yet late Maynard Keenan:
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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
  
 
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 Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: fireworks_god]
#1745711 - 07/24/03 06:57 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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We dont hate you, we just dont know how to respond 
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"Time is the substance from which I am made. Time is a river which carries me along, but I am the river; it is a tiger that devours me, but I am the tiger; it is a fire that consumes me, but I am the fire."
Jorge Luis Borges
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fireworks_god
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: Quadrant6]
#1748267 - 07/25/03 01:11 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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No problem. Just some thoughts I had when I was very sleep-deprived.
Peace.
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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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 Swami
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: fireworks_god]
#1748274 - 07/25/03 01:13 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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How much money do I win?
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The proof is in the pudding.
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fireworks_god
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: Swami]
#1748292 - 07/25/03 01:18 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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You win the freedom to print your own money, if you truly want to.
Peace.
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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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fireworks_god
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: fireworks_god]
#1750756 - 07/26/03 01:12 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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So, has anyone accepted the challenge yet? Big rewards! hehe
Peace.
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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: fireworks_god]
#1750952 - 07/26/03 03:11 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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Great post, that's all I'd like to say.
I'll be damned if I could come up with that in a sleep-deprived state and be able to write it all down coherently 
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Here we are, in these bodies, on this planet in an endless universe. This is not the extent of who we are... merely an extension of who we really are.
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: Amnesiac]
#1750980 - 07/26/03 03:24 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually, I was sort of provoked by that racism post that was going around.. not that the challenge was directed at MALACHI or anything. Once I was started on it, though, I realized it should have more of a universal appeal, rather than applying the thought to what was going on at the time. Oh, and glad you liked it.
Peace.
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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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I know this is an old post but I found it enlightening.
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Poid
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I accept your challenge.
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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan   fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Edited by xFrockx (01/07/10 08:44 PM)
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: xFrockx]
#11786910 - 01/07/10 10:37 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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4th of JULY!!
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: Poid]
#11787557 - 01/08/10 01:20 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Poid said:
I accept your challenge.
looking at that little line under your avatar , it seems to me that you definitely should.
maybe not 50 grams..
a have a feeling that 5 would make you cry for mother.
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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: jivJaN]
#11787606 - 01/08/10 01:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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ahhhh. sleep depravity.
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: jivJaN]
#11787636 - 01/08/10 01:45 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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jivJaN said:
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Poid said:
I accept your challenge.
looking at that little line under your avatar , it seems to me that you definitely should.
We already discussed this a little... but we all wear masks and the most honest thing we can do is admit this.
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: deCypher]
#11787839 - 01/08/10 04:06 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
deCypher said:
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jivJaN said:
looking at that little line under your avatar , it seems to me that you definitely should.
We already discussed this a little... but we all wear masks and the most honest thing we can do is admit this.
Wrong, the most honest thing we can do is not wear a mask at all.
I also completely reject FWG's so called 'challenge'.
The only way to give up ones identity is to put a shotgun in ones mouth and pull the trigger.
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: RationalEgo]
#11787861 - 01/08/10 04:21 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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RationalEgo said:
Wrong, the most honest thing we can do is not wear a mask at all.
Impossible to do. We are organisms who adapt our behavior to our environment; every response we make is dependent upon the context of our surroundings. There is no such thing as a "true" self because our self is defined by its interaction with the external world.
Now, certainly there may be masks that involve telling fewer lies than other masks, but one should still realize that one is putting on the truth-telling mask rather than pulling all masks off.
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fireworks_god
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: RationalEgo]
#11788335 - 01/08/10 08:42 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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RationalEgo said:
I also completely reject FWG's so called 'challenge'.
The only way to give up ones identity is to put a shotgun in ones mouth and pull the trigger.
Well, it seems a bit awkward to be replying to support a thread I created six and a half years ago, since I didn't express myself then as I am accustomed to doing now. 
Anyways, you say that you reject the "challenge", so you're implying that you have an emotional or ideological hang-up that is preventing you from seeing some simple truths in life?
'Cause the challenge was for those who do, and rejection is implying its pertaining to you in the first place... 
Moving forward, I'm not certain why you're talking about "giving up one's identity".
Its completely and entirely impertinent; your dramatic shotgun reference is a non-sequitur.
I clearly referred to relinquishing one's sense of identity, as a means of overcoming the cited dilemmas that would be hypothetically plaguing the person being challenged.
One's conception of one's identity can certainly be changed, altered, transformed, disconsidered, set aside. A conduit that need not be thought through.
Its a matter of how one wishes to define themselves, how one wishes to tell themselves who they are.
Never mentioned giving up identity in and of itself. 
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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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Well, hangups is a nice little way of saying that one stands on a principle. I have hangups about murder, theft, etc and seeing those actions committed will certainly provoke an emotional response in myself, but I have of desire to change that principle or the emotion attached to it. On that basis I reject your so called 'challenge'.
As for relinquishing ones 'sense' of identity, where do you suppose this sense of identity comes from?
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: RationalEgo]
#11789408 - 01/08/10 12:45 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
jivJaN said:
Quote:
Poid said:
I accept your challenge.
looking at that little line under your avatar , it seems to me that you definitely should.
maybe not 50 grams..
a have a feeling that 5 would make you cry for mother.
Each of us is the mask. 
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RationalEgo said:
Quote:
deCypher said:
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jivJaN said:
looking at that little line under your avatar , it seems to me that you definitely should.
We already discussed this a little... but we all wear masks and the most honest thing we can do is admit this.
Wrong, the most honest thing we can do is not wear a mask at all.
Then we wouldn't have a face!
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RationalEgo said:
I also completely reject FWG's so called 'challenge'.
The only way to give up ones identity is to put a shotgun in ones mouth and pull the trigger.
So the only way a wigger can stop being a wigger is for the said wigger to kill himself?
I like it! 
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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: RationalEgo]
#11790274 - 01/08/10 02:59 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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RationalEgo said:
Well, hangups is a nice little way of saying that one stands on a principle.
Standing upon a principle, in and of itself? Definitely not what I intended with the words "hangup", unless holding to the principle is preventing someone from observing or understanding what I referred to as a "simple truth", which is the context in which the word "hangup" was placed.
A hangup would be any description of an aspect of reality which is incongruent with the actuality of the nature of reality or prevents one from understanding an aspect of the nature of reality.
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As for relinquishing ones 'sense' of identity, where do you suppose this sense of identity comes from?
The present manifestation of the progression, over the course of one's life, of the daily thoughts one ascribes to one's conceptualization of what one's identity is.
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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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Poid
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Quote:
fireworks_god said:
A hangup would be any description of an aspect of reality which is incongruent with the actuality of the nature of reality or prevents one from understanding an aspect of the nature of reality.
So is the term 'hangup', as its being used here, synonymous with the term 'delusion'?
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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: Poid]
#11790641 - 01/08/10 04:07 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Poid said:
So is the term 'hangup', as its being used here, synonymous with the term 'delusion'?
No, I would not consider it to be synonymous, although clearly a delusion, by definition, would be a hangup as I employed the term then.
Something doesn't necessarily have to be a delusion in order to prevent one from understanding or realizing some aspect of reality.
Simply having preoccupied thoughts about some matter can prevent one from perceiving an aspect of one's environment, for example.
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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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Poid
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Quote:
fireworks_god said:
Simply having preoccupied thoughts about some matter can prevent one from perceiving an aspect of one's environment, for example.
I think I tend to do this more than I should. 
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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: Poid]
#11790916 - 01/08/10 04:51 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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You shouldn't do it at all. 
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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
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Re: The Fireworks_God Challenge [Re: MushroomTrip]
#11790926 - 01/08/10 04:52 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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I know. 
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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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