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 theseeker
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 Progress from jars to casings *pics* 
#516131 - 01/10/02 04:46 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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A little trivia for you all. Can you tell the difference between mycellium and cobweb mold?
First one should be easy:
This is a different jar. This patch appears 'furry', and is larger than the other patches:
This is the 2nd jar at a different point. The flash has altered the colors a bit, but it is basically pure white:
Peace
Edited by theseeker (01/24/02 05:48 AM)
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MeltingPenguin
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Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: theseeker]
#516133 - 01/10/02 04:51 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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that's so weird, my curosr just dissapeard, but it still works....there's just a lot of guess work involved, hmmm
anyway,
First two are mycelium, and the last pic is very over exposed so i can't really tell, but i'll say mycelium.
this no curosr thing is too tuff, i'm out
BYE EVERYONE
GOODNITE!!!
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puscle
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 Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: theseeker]
#516136 - 01/10/02 05:01 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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All three are healthy mycelia.
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MeltingPenguin
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Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: puscle]
#516137 - 01/10/02 05:04 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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its a trick question, you Bastard!
Oh yeah I lied, i'm back
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theseeker
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Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: puscle]
#516151 - 01/10/02 05:34 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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Thank you puscle and MeltingPenguin.
These jars were recovered after 2 weeks of no growth. Two jars were taken out of the batch and the vermiculite and substrate mix were separated. The very dry substrate cakes were broken up and put back into the jars, mixed with Spring water, and sealed with vermiculite. The pictures are the result of two days in the incubator.
Two other cakes had their verm layers removed and an equal amount of spring water added to the 1/2 pint mix, without removing or breaking apart the cake. These jars haven't shown any changes.
Thought this might be helpful to some people who are having difficulties getting off the ground.
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Roadkill
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 Re: Age old question... what is it? *DELETED* [Re: theseeker]
#516154 - 01/10/02 05:40 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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Let me get this straight....lol
Your jars stalled....so you decided to use more water.
So you took the substant out....and added spring water?
I hope you didn't add more spores.
I hope you used a glove box.
Very interesting....lol
Don't mind me....i had a brain fart and thought i posted this in the wrong thread....lol
So i tryed to reword it like i had it....lolz
That means its past my bed time....g-nite
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Laterz, Road
Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!
Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.
Edited by Roadkill (01/10/02 05:59 AM)
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theseeker
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Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: Roadkill]
#516161 - 01/10/02 05:48 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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right... just added water and resealed. voila.
shake 'n bake and i helped.
what do you mean by was this done in a glove box?
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MeltingPenguin
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Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: theseeker]
#516164 - 01/10/02 05:53 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
there's no cobeweb mold now, but there is going to be!!!! hahahahahahaha
unless your jokeing.
you ca't really remove substrait in a normal room, remeber that while "sterlization" thing.........
But I bet your just fucking with us, that's too stupid
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Roadkill
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 Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: theseeker]
#516169 - 01/10/02 06:04 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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Quote "shake 'n bake and i helped. "
Please don't tell me you baked it.
That would have killed the spores.
Why i asked if you used a glove box?.....you took sterile material and opened it up to a room that probably has germs.
Anyway......I'd love to see how these jars turn out.
Let us know.....please.
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Laterz, Road
Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!
Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.
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theseeker
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Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: MeltingPenguin]
#516173 - 01/10/02 06:12 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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yes I remember the whole sterilization thing. it's called improvising when nothing fucking grows.
you have no idea how bad it hurts to be called stupid by a guy with 9 misspelled words in his 4 sentence post
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theseeker
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Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: Roadkill]
#516175 - 01/10/02 06:22 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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no they weren't actually baked :) all the equipment was sterilized and a mask was used... any precautions that were within control were taken. it might not be a bad idea to build a glove box, esp if these ones become contam'd. i'll definitely keep you posted...
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theseeker
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Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: Roadkill]
#521494 - 01/15/02 05:40 PM (23 years, 15 days ago) |
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Roadkill
This is the jar I referred to as "Jar 2" in the
previous post.
"Jar 1" is also doing well...
Two others are colonizing. One other was
lost to something very nasty that smelled like
coffee grounds mixed with dogshit. Mmmm...
that's a smell I hope to never encounter again.
Edited by theseeker (01/16/02 01:17 AM)
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Roadkill
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Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: theseeker]
#521908 - 01/16/02 12:55 AM (23 years, 15 days ago) |
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theseeker,
I'm glad this worked for you.....first time i have seen it posted.
Can you please do us a favor....reduce the size of your pictures.
They are too big....if you need help doing this....I will be more than willing to help you.
PM me if you want help with photo's.
I'm very happy that you saved your jars though.
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Laterz, Road
Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!
Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.
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theseeker
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Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: Roadkill]
#521921 - 01/16/02 01:14 AM (23 years, 15 days ago) |
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Roadkill
Sorry, thought it was small enough.. only 53k.. I'll reduce the
dimensions.
Basically, I knew that there was a risk involved, so I took the
precautions that I could. I didn't use the oven-tek but I did boil
the water and make sure appliances were sterile, and as
always wore a mask to not get any of the lovely organisms
living in my mouth over the cakes.
One cake was lost to something more disgusting than I've
ever seen. Another appears to possibly have cobweb, but
not sure. Considering the circumstances I think this is a
better than expected outcome. I'll keep you posted
throughout the life cycle.
Question.. I'm not sure what # of cakes will actually become
cakes that can be used in casing.. I might risk losing a good
cake to try an experiment, unless you know it's already
been done.. I thought I could take a cake and crumble it into a
jar with more substrate. The mycelium already has a
dominant presence, and could most likely keep control.. this
could quickly turn one jar into two.. biggest problem
would be trichoderma, which so far I haven't encountered. I
also learned this is exceptionally difficult to fight off once
encountered, since it uses the mycelium as a food source (a
very competetive edge). I'm also worried about pinning
before the new jars become fully colonized, the older mycelia
maturing before I'm ready.
Let me know your thoughts.
Edited by theseeker (01/16/02 11:53 AM)
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Roadkill
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Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: theseeker]
#521962 - 01/16/02 02:12 AM (23 years, 15 days ago) |
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Never tried that.....anyone else?
Its just hard to see the picture.
Reduce the size of the picture itself.
Example....320 x 240....works great.
Can you take any clearer pictures ?
That one was fuzzy.
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Laterz, Road
Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!
Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.
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theseeker
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Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: Roadkill]
#521994 - 01/16/02 02:44 AM (23 years, 15 days ago) |
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Jar 1
Jar 2
Jar 3 (slightly overexposed, but looks good)
Jar 4
The contents of the nasty coffee smelling contam'd jar
I can still smell that shit... yuck!
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Roadkill
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Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: theseeker]
#522016 - 01/16/02 03:19 AM (23 years, 15 days ago) |
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Great pictures Dude!!!!
Can i ask you what is the substrate in the jars?
Looks like you used whole grain rice.....did you ?
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Laterz, Road
Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!
Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.
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 tomatofarmer
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Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: Roadkill]
#522071 - 01/16/02 05:04 AM (23 years, 15 days ago) |
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i was wondering the same...looks like rice....
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theseeker
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Re: Age old question... what is it? [Re: Roadkill]
#522285 - 01/16/02 10:38 AM (23 years, 15 days ago) |
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Roadkill
It looks to be whole grain rice, but the 'chicks say that it
is a premixed substrate. The bag was labeled Super
Substrate. I got a kit, but I think it was actually a decent
deal for the convenience (90 USD) and their shipping was
27 USD (included) so, I don't think it's that bad. :) Next
time the ingredients will be purchased separately.
The camera is an Olympus D-460.
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theseeker
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Progress [Re: Roadkill]
#527090 - 01/21/02 03:14 AM (23 years, 10 days ago) |
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Three jars at nearly 100%
Some others that are straggling:
Five others are out to lunch... don't know if they're coming
back or not. It's okay, these will make a nice casing. peace
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