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Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados
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For the sake of this thread, let's assume there IS something to Homeopathy.

As there is no way:

1. to chemically or chromatographically test the water/elixir

2. to certify the manufacturer (there is no regulation)

3. to test the results (other than collecting years of anecdotes which may be purely placebo)

How can you be sure that what you are buying is not merely ordinary distilled water?

What is to prevent ANYONE from putting a fancy label on such a bottle and marketing it?


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: Swami]
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They have a machine that goes "ping" when you press the button and you can get a tour of the factory and watch them put the non-existent stuff in the thingy.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: Swami]
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Quote:
What is to prevent ANYONE from putting a fancy label on such a bottle and marketing it?


Nothing! The suckers are what make capitalism fun!

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: Swami]
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I wonder, isn't it cooler, cheaper and healthier to get deceived by the homes than give your money to the farms?

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: Swami]
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There's no scientific evidence for the essential oil of Tea Tree curing pink eye either but it does.  A warm water compress with some tea tree oil in the water applied for 10 minutes in the morning and night and its gone in 2 days.

Like I said before, if it works for you, then it does. I could be the sucker who only believes ONLY what science medicine tells me, have to make a doctors appointment for my daughter, which might take two days to get her even in to see him, waste time in the waiting room exposed to sick people, pay a co-pay for the otherwise expensive visit, pay the co-pay for an otherwise expensive cream or anti-biotic that will take 7 days.

That sounds like a scam to me.

A 6 oz bottle of Tea Tree oil is 5 bucks and works faster. The amount I had to use was probably worth 25 cents.

Who is the sucker sometimes is the question. A consumer of a bogus product can be just as much of a sucker as a consumer of science medicine.

Sometimes, science medicine works best, and sometimes, alternatives work just as good or even better and cost less. You can't fault people for trying not to be scammed by the medical industry and pharmaceutical companies either.

Why act like science medicine is proven perfect or delivers what it claims to? How many complaints have you heard about doctors treatments or prescriptions not working as they said they would?

My sister deals with chronic neck pain. tons of doctors visits with specialists and expensive MRI's, prescription drugs and zero results. She finally went to an acupuncturist and got results. If it works , it works. If science can't explain how or why or won't, because they can't patent it, then that's their problem.


:peace: :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: Swami]
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Swami said:
For the sake of this thread, let's assume there IS something to Homeopathy.

As there is no way:

1. to chemically or chromatographically test the water/elixir

2. to certify the manufacturer (there is no regulation)

3. to test the results (other than collecting years of anecdotes which may be purely placebo)

How can you be sure that what you are buying is not merely ordinary distilled water?

What is to prevent ANYONE from putting a fancy label on such a bottle and marketing it?



what does it matter... if it works? placebo or not.

I wouldnt really mind paying to be "tricked" into becoming healthy.

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: SneezingPenis]
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me point zactly

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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Quote:
There's no scientific evidence for the essential oil of Tea Tree curing pink eye either but it does.


Are you sure? If it works so well, I guarantee there has to be at least one scientific experiment testing it.

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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While there may not be a specific study of Tea Tree and pinkeye, there is ample scientific proof of the anti-viral properties of Tea Tree Oil. The same cannot be said of homeopathic medicine in general, so this is not a good example of scientific proof having no link to practical value.

http://www.meddent.uwa.edu.au/teatree/

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: SneezingPenis]
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i tink da swam is wit da farms

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: raytrace]
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modern medical science..... it has its lobbyist, and interests to protect just like any other industry.

How bad would the healthcare industry suffer if homeopathy were proven? doesn't this situation seem a lot like the physicians propaganda campaign against chiropractors?
The second some form of "alternate" treatment shows up, the doctors get all in a tizzy.

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: SneezingPenis]
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That is absolute nonsense. Not every scientist is in the grubby paws of the pharmaceutical lobby. Especially not those in the realm of academia. If a scientist had a chance to attach his or her name to a breakthrough that large, they would do it in a second.

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: Redstorm]
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Especially not those in the realm of academia
fo real

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: Redstorm]
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so, it is just a coincidence then that every physician (atleast that I have talked to) cannot seem to find anything positive to say about chiropractors?

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: SneezingPenis]
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there is shitloads of money in the system known as "modern medicine".

much like the oil industry suppresses knowledge and creation of alternate fuel or solar powered cars, the advocates of "modern medicine" wish to keep their view on top.

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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Thanks for failing to answer a single question.


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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: Swami]
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that seems to be your automatic response to anything which doesnt fall into the category of "proving your case".

when you go to taco bell, and ask for a large pepsi, and you get RC cola instead, does it still not satiate your thirst?

There is no way of knowing if you are getting distilled water, or a homeopathic remedy, which is why im pretty sure, the hard-core advocates of homeopathy make their own tinctures.

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: SneezingPenis]
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Id also like to add that there is not one definitive study which proves the cause of depression, ADHD, or anxiety.

But that doesnt stop the pharmcorps from selling you plenty of pills and potions.

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: Redstorm]
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If there is research about it's potency as an anti fungal, bacterial and viral property, it's not what the doctors prescribe for treating topical viral, bacterial or fungal infections. They give anti-biotics which come with a hefty price for non insured people and they take longer to work and come with side effects. Tea tree oil has no side effects and is inexpensive.


Regarding what psilo said, not ALL doctors are playing the game. Some are. My cousin is one and he is sickened by the greed and corruption. He sees it and disagrees with so much and can't say squat working for a hospital and not having his own private practice. Many doctors have also turned coat and are opening private practices working in conjunction with complimentary alternative medicine. There not all bad.

They better not out law chiropractors. They rock. They helped me big time a few times in the past and I need to make an appointment for one this week. I fucked my neck up carrying heavy bags x-mas shopping and tightening up to keep warm when I visited Chicago in the deep freeze last month.

Chiropractors rule!

;peace: :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: Final Question(s) for Homeopathy Aficianados [Re: SneezingPenis]
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This thread was not about soda pop, pharmaceutical companies, depression or chiropractic. Feel free to sart a new thread.

The words that I type must be somehow distorted by the time they end up on other folk's computers. Of course, this IS a drug website...


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