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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: DeathCompany]
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haha..ha..ha... i knew that :stoned:


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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: ph30n1x]
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ph30n1x said:
if u inhale anything thats combusted, it could potentially cause cancer because of the oxygen free-radicals produced from combustion. but as bad as that sounds, its almost a non existant risk, the risk still exists, but the chances of cancer actually starting is very very minute, especially with the other various properties of pot smoke. But weed in perticular doesnt cause cancer any more than like, a burning log or w/e. where as tobacco, is carcinogenic because of the radioactive fertilizer used to grow it. just to give an example, u could chew weed forever and not get mouth cancer, but if u dip or chew tobacco ul get cancer cause the plant is carcinogenic. so if ur gonna smoke somthing, weed is the safest. and plus, with all that anti marijuana propaganda out there, u think if they had even the slightest link to weed causing lung cancer theyd announce it like crazy, and ive herd no such thing. with shrooms, there are no long term physical effects. mental is still not a clear cut answer, like if ur mentally heathy to begin with, and u can handle trips, and ur moderate about useage, its also mentally harmless, but if u have mental illness in ur family or u have mental problems, even if its just panic attks or anxiety, shroooms could worsen the condition. flashback syndrome (HPPS i think its called) can occur if u do them too much. if u wanna be completly safe about both, make sure ur mentally stable along with ur family, plan your trips well. and for weed buy a vaporizer. with a vaporizer that works properlly, no negative heath effects.


I was unclear on how I consume weed. I use a vaporizer called the Volcano. I only smoke it like once every week or two, one session, with my friends. The rest of the time I vaporize it. Vaporizing gives a far better, clearer high also in my opinion.

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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: llopez00]
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I believe vaporizing cuts out the cancer risk completely. Still need to try that. Just make some brownies!!!


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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: llopez00]
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Your method of use over time dictates your suseptablility to its message. And your 6+ doses are to the knowledgable shroomers, like fascilitating a bad-beat in a poker game. Your cards are shitty and yet you won in a way cause yo played it right. But thats not that good for your overall score

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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: llopez00]
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This thread is going to Hell in a handbasket if it stays on the pot/cancer debate.

My 2 cents:

Smoking any herb is harmful because all herbal smoke is harmful

If used as often in equally non-excessive doses oral cannabis is less harmful than oral shrooms because people are better able to hold onto their ego, thus less struggle ensues, thus a lower risk for residual emotional and psychologic disturbances.

You can rip yourself apart if you resist shrooms while on weed you might feel "just" uniquely bad.


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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: Asante]
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Which is the more harmless? Marijuana or Shrooms? That was the topic (although my "I eat spores, steams, pot, and babies while innoculating" thread got closed quicker than this one for being off topic) and I'll try to put in my two cents. I think that although Marijuana may allegedly cause cancer or whatever - shrooms are by far the more dangerous. Think of all the social implications of a bad trip - loss of reality and walking into the street, getting arrested, etc. Also, the "mental explosion" that somebody mentioned earlier in this thread can (in high doses) provoke underlying schitzophrenia, and other psychological problems. I mean, I fucking love shrooms - I'm just saying - the way cubensis makes you disconnect and loose focus on reality (people say "gain a new reality", but it's really just a loss of reality) it can be very dangerous. My basic underlying argument is: which is more dangerous? Well would you rather be smoking a possible carcinogen in low doses or go to the hospital\jail for wacking the fuck out (even for just 8 hours or so) on 5 grams?


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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: doubledutch]
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I meant stems, not steams, but seriously - I think of the dangers like that, rather than hurting my body. Because I'd rather hurt my body than my life.


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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: doubledutch]
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I feel that, both mentally and physically, weed does me more harm than shrooms. I think of shrooms as the safest drug that I use.

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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: doubledutch]
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doubledutch said:
people say "gain a new reality", but it's really just a loss of reality.


You are almost right.
when tripping, reality is lost and gained simultaneously as the perpective shifts.

I believe that Psilocybe mushrooms are healthier to consume than Cannabis.

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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
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one way to look at it is this. which one can you take daily?


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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: iateshaggy]
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iateshaggy said:
which one can you take daily?


The unhealthy one. That makes it even worse.
Shrooms are better for you and they're non addictive (at least not to the extent that Cannabis is).


Sorry if my post sounds stupid in any way; I just finished a fat bowl...  :rasta:

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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
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try taking shrooms 3 days in a row and tell me how you feel about them. personally i feel that both have very little health risk, well, as long as we're only talking about eating, but shrooms will fry your brain...trust me...but in moderation, i don't see a worry with either one.


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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: iateshaggy]
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After I smoke bud I always feel unhealthy and kind-of dumb. After i do shrooms I feel like a better person (Except for a bad trip here or there) and extremely enlightened. I still smoke bud but it's usually just to get wrecked. I think shrooms are one of the best things to ever enter my life. So I don't know about all the propaganda surrounding the two, but I know how each makes me feel. happy shroomin


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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: cookeman]
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im sorry but weed is not harmless.

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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: Deviate]
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To answer this question we'd have to explore what sort of 'harm' we're talking about.

If 'harm' means physical damage to the body, smoked cannabis is much more harmful.

If 'harm' means abnormal psychology, then mushrooms are probably more harmful (or are more likely to cause harm than cannabis).

But, in my opinion, if you've had a few trips under your belt and have the ability to integrate and assimilate your trips without too much difficulty... if you can come to terms with the knowledge gained from them, then they're actually good for you.

Marijuana provides the same sort of learning experience, but only the first 10-20 times you get high.  Then it becomes an escape, a way to be content doing nothing.  And, yes, it IS addictive, precisely because it has so few side effects.  Thats why so many of us here are daily pot smokers. 

The great thing about mushrooms is that they're self-limiting.  A good mushroom trip is always an event... you get nervous before you eat them, and you really have to convince youreself that its a good idea before you'll go ahead and take the plundge.  Whereas marijuana is just "um, yea I guess i'll take another  :bongload:


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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: Noviseer]
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:bongload: or :mushroom2:.... that is the question....

I say do both, life is short.

Edited by Mcdoopy (11/21/05 03:19 PM)

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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: Mcdoopy]
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I think its an apples to oranges comparison. One quiet frankly can be a spiritual experience or just an intoxicant. The other, you'ed have to be stupid to just treat as an intoxicant.

Some some sativa and your views of pot just making you feel dumb might change. Yes weed can make you hallucinate, I know because I am very sensitive to it's effects; not to mention I practice the utmost limiting my experences on weed to just a couple times a year. Much like most regular people do with stronger stuff IE Acid/Shrooms...etc

But Weed compared to Alcohol its no contest, weed wins...
Shrooms compared to RC's, no contest Shrooms win...

Make an fair comparison and then maybe you'll have better rational arguments.

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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: Deviate]
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Smoking pot daily is not good for you. Neither is doing shrooms daily. Both are psychadelics known to bring out repressed mental disorders.
There is no way to determine which is more harmful at this point...studies are extremely limited...It is, however, researched that shrooms do not do any PHYSICAL bodily harm to the human body, where as marijuana actually does effect the lungs negatively(as does any smoke).


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Re: More Harmless: Marijuana vs. "Cube" Shrooms [Re: llopez00]
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llopez00 said:
However, I smoke weed every night to help me relax and go to sleep. I used to grow weed and I have done a lot of reading about it and I know that it is basically harmless.


You know yourself better than anybody, and I don't want to argue in any case--but in general if someone told me they smoked every day I'd suggest they've formed a habit. IMO a person shouldn't need to smoke grass to relax and sleep--not on a regular basis, anyway.

I think there is such a thing as "amotivational syndrome." Maybe it isn't chemical, but it could be more behavioral. There's such a thing as being too laid back.


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