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Offlinebassplayer74
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My attempt at straw tek
    #496126 - 12/19/01 06:44 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Its been about 12 hours since I innoculated my straw at 160 for an hour. Let cool and drain for several hours. Was cool but still slightly damp. I then innoculated with crumbled pf cakes. Classic strain. I used 1 half pint cake per square foot. So far I dont see any mycelium spreading at all. Is it to early? I'm just worried because last time I tried a straw tek, the spawn never did spread onto the straw. If this happens to me again, what am I doing wrong? I have temps at 75 degrees and humidity at or around 100. Please let me know something. Thanks...bassplayer74


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Re: My attempt at straw tek [Re: bassplayer74]
    #496136 - 12/19/01 06:50 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Dude, your not going to see any growth in 12 hours. In fact the last time I seen a friends set up it took MONTHS for it to mature enough to fruit. This is the downside of useing straw, it's pretty damm slow to colinize. However, when the fruits do emerge they are some of the strongest largest 'shrooms that this ole hippy has ever tried. (and the strain at issue was PF Classic as well)

Have patience, it's worth it. If your in a hurry to trip now is the time to start some PF Jars- depending on how much straw you inoculated, the PF jars will probably fruit first.


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Re: My attempt at straw tek [Re: Jammer]
    #496141 - 12/19/01 06:55 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks man....I was under the impression that if I innoculated straw with powdered pf cakes it would colonize rapidly. I've heard in 3 to 7 days it should be a brick of mycelium ready for casing. Oh well.....I'll just wait and see what happens.


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Re: My attempt at straw tek [Re: bassplayer74]
    #496147 - 12/19/01 07:00 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

You might want to raise the temp closer to 80 degrees.


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Re: My attempt at straw tek [Re: Jammer]
    #496150 - 12/19/01 07:02 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

yeah; all i ever hear is that it only takes MAYBE a week for crumbled cakes to colonize straw; i just bought a bail on lunchbreak today and will see for myself but i can say i have never heard of anyone ever say theyve taken more than a week to colonize straw; thats why i chose to buy some and try it.


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Re: My attempt at straw tek [Re: Jammer]
    #496154 - 12/19/01 07:06 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks Jammer....Will do....I've read everything I could possibly find on straw teks. I'm using old timers tek. I'm not sure if its right or not, but he says the straw should brick out in a few days because there are so many innoculation points. The powdered cake gets all over the straw. He then says(if I remember correctly) that it should fruit in about a week. I know this sounds too good to be true, but I'm an optimist. I hope it works out. Any other info is appreciated. Like I said, I've read everything I could about it already but I'm still worried something wont work out right.

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Re: My attempt at straw tek [Re: BeppoMarx]
    #496168 - 12/19/01 07:21 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Ok, here is the last straw teck that I seen:

A ten gallon tank was filled to the top rim with tightly compressed pasteried straw that was purchased from JLF (no longer for sell). This tank was placed inside a large 29 gallon High tank on top off upside down 1/2 pint jars that were placed inside the 29 gallon tank. Aprox. 3 inches of water was placed in the bottom (add hto2 or bleach) of the 29 gallon tank. A fish tank air pump feed a large hortizontial airstone. A fish tank heater mounted at a 45 degree angle kept the temp at about 78 degrees (higher temps make containamation more likely). A transparent clear piece of plastic was used for the top with a small fish tank flourecent light placed on top. Rye was used for spawn (crumbled PF cakes should work just as well). No caseing was ever done.

It might of been over two months or more before the mycelium reached down about 5 inches. In time it grew down to about 6-8 inches deep- then it stoped growing downward, it got about 8 inches deep at it's deepest spots. There was absolutely NO containamation! At this point the fruits emerged... and they kept comming for weeks on end.

Although this was my friends setup, it was my idea. If anyone refers to this tek please feel free to call it.....

The Jammer Straw Tek.

PS: A word of caution. This Tek needs a constant supply of air from the pump. If the pump is left off for more than 24 hours the hudmidity level will drop to the point of serios fungus damage that can result in it dieing altogather.




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Re: My attempt at straw tek [Re: Jammer]
    #496375 - 12/19/01 10:45 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

old timer straw tek

A method I use might prove useful to you. I simply start 1/2 pint jars using traditional PF Tek. Once jars are fully colonized I get ready for straw inoculation. I soak regular old straw (which I get from a Feed & Seed) for 24 hours. After soaking I chop the straw and place in a large pasta pot. Bring to 160F for 1 hour. After pasteurization I allow straw to cool, drain and place in pans with clear "greenhouse" type lids. Take the "cake" and grind it to powder in a food processor/blender. Believe it or not the grinding does not harm the mycelium. Sprinkle the cake powder all over the straw and mix in throughly. Every minute particle of PF cake dust will become a growth point giving super fast colonization of the straw. Allow spawn to run through and case. You will get really good flushes (much more than fruiting individual cakes) and produce many more carpophores for your enjoyment. Of course optimum humidity must be maintained throughout the entire growing cycle from inoculation to fruiting. For years I started cultures using petri dishes, replated several times, transferred to grain and fruited strictly on manure/straw compost. Now, thanks to PF I have learned a much easier and quicker method for growing our fungi friends using straw and cakes with no lab time at all. See, you can teach an old head new tricks.


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Re: My attempt at straw tek [Re: upupup]
    #496401 - 12/19/01 11:05 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Well shit.... I gotta read more! (haha)

Ok, I'm busted.... I never read the old timer straw tek. I asumed that it was simulair to other teks that I have read about in the past.

Sounds pretty interesting, I like the concept. I now can see where this should greatly decrease the colinzation time.

So, please disregaurd my advised time intervals. (I really should spend more time reading/researching- hehe)


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Re: My attempt at straw tek [Re: Jammer]
    #496407 - 12/19/01 11:10 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Don't sweat it jammer...If you only knew how much your help is appreciated!

Take care...

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Re: My attempt at straw tek [Re: Jammer]
    #496698 - 12/20/01 06:22 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

damn, a 10 gallon aquarium filled with straw? that must give huge yields... i can see how it would take a long time, though.. but still...thats an interesting idea. maybe one day i'll be able to get my friend to try that, he's experimenting with the old timer's tek right now too, after he saw it posted recently...

10 gallons of straw!


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Re: My attempt at straw tek [Re: Amoeba665]
    #496815 - 12/20/01 10:56 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

the KEY to the OT straw tek, is that you are powdering a colonized pf cake... then throwing down a 1" layer of straw.. tossing your spawn in.. mixing it up a bit.. then add another such layer... every place where the cake dust is touching straw is going to be a growth point... this is explosive.. the mycelium has so much food, and it is verocious.. it will colonize in a few days in the right conditions... this is pretty amazing.. mycelium is crazy ass hungry after ya grind the shit outta it....

just remeber... the casing doesn't need to be more then 1"... even that is excessive, and will slow your fruiting.


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Re: My attempt at straw tek [Re: Hammerloaf]
    #497086 - 12/20/01 05:41 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Would this work?

Replacing the straw for worm castings, and maybe some mixed in vermiculite? Letting it rebuild for 24 hours or so, then casing with 50/50 casing mix?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: My attempt at straw tek [Re: ShroomNewb]
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Re: My attempt at straw tek [Re: narniagardens]
    #10337832 - 05/14/09 03:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Did you just offer that link up in a 7 year old thread??


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Re: My attempt at straw tek [Re: novicemycology]
    #10337847 - 05/14/09 03:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

lol why yes he did


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