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OfflineabsoluteZero
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Breeding
    #495909 - 12/19/01 02:28 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I'm curious how to breed a new "strain". I understand the concepts of isolation on agar, but how can you select traits and is it possible to combine 2 or more strains in to one? Would it be possible to cross breed cubs with something else? Thanks

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Re: Breeding [Re: absoluteZero]
    #496142 - 12/19/01 06:55 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

its possible but highly unlikely...



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Re: Breeding [Re: 40oz]
    #496163 - 12/19/01 07:15 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, after i posted, i did a search.... damn thats a lot of work
Hey, thanks for not calling me a retard!

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Re: Breeding [Re: 40oz]
    #496164 - 12/19/01 07:18 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Interesting that you should ask that question. I've recently seen a cake on flush three with one mushroom in particular that appears to have traits that are totally different than the traits which are traditional for the strain being cultivated.
It is a cubie . the thing started just like all the rest but now that the veil has broken and it has enlarged somewhat I notice that the cap looks sort of like a cool weather variety. What I mean is the appearance of the cap takes on a distinctly carmel cap aura.
I am going to print this an go from there.
I t looks like it could be quite strong .
Is this something that is just a fluke ,you think, and I'm wasting my time going this route?
I was thinking I could get a new substrain going or something llike that.
I've heard stories that usually you can not get any better than nature but people have been doing breeding for a long time and it seems the way to go.
If people would have spent the energy they've spent on pot for the last 40 years we'd have 200 pound watermelons by now.
So I'm printing.
What do you think?


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Re: Breeding [Re: absoluteZero]
    #496169 - 12/19/01 07:22 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

...retard! ....;)


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Re: Breeding [Re: 40oz]
    #496200 - 12/19/01 07:45 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

damn smurfs...


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Re: Breeding [Re: absoluteZero]
    #496210 - 12/19/01 08:00 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

It's called hybridizing I remember reading an article on it detailing ways to do it,but i forgot to bookmark it so I can't gi ve you the link,but basically what you did was put spores of multiple species into one cake and they would either...
A.Kill eachother in a fight for fungal dominance(almost never occurs)
B.One strain will take over the other(higly likely)
or..
C.They will merge together(so to speak) in mycelluim and fruit a shroom thats 50% one of the species and 50% the other,now this is really rare,but what the hell,go for it,if you get a hybrid you will be so damn proud of ya self...


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Re: Breeding [Re: absoluteZero]
    #496221 - 12/19/01 08:14 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

La Lah lalal lalal La lala La La... (smurf theme)


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Edited by fortyounces2freedom (12/19/01 08:15 PM)


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Re: Breeding [Re: PaleTylenol]
    #496227 - 12/19/01 08:22 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

News flash! You cannot cross two seperate species of mushrooms. It is even difficult to do it with individual strains of mushrooms, although not completely impossible. But just sticking them all in one cake and hoping for the best will not likely lend to you getting a hybrid.

Absolutezero-The best route to go for trying to get a flush of mushrooms like the one you described is to clone the odd fruit. If you take a spore print you will not likely see this feature in the next generation. A single spore print of any strain contains all the genetic variations for that particular straom. There are a billion phenotypic characteristics that can be expressed, although most of them are similar there are a few that are different.


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Re: Breeding [Re: kingkc]
    #496230 - 12/19/01 08:25 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Clone that puppy... dont print it!


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Re: Breeding [Re: Shdwstr]
    #496259 - 12/19/01 08:54 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

fortyounces2freedom: that link in your post is broken by the way. :)

I just recently foolishly cased straight wild cubensis from these parts with ecuadors. That was a really dumb idea but never mind. Of course nothing happened, neither strain could get a big enough chunk of itself together to fruit because the cakes were crumbled up and completely scattered.

Maybe if you continiously innoculated cakes with two strains you might have some success but the idea of just putting two strains in and getting results first time is not really going to happen.


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Re: Breeding [Re: Shdwstr]
    #496288 - 12/19/01 09:26 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

how the the fuck was the B+ mushroom made? even though most people consider it weak, it gives me hella nice visuals.


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Re: Breeding [Re: downforpot]
    #496332 - 12/19/01 10:06 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

ask mothernature...she made it...


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Re: Breeding [Re: 40oz]
    #496661 - 12/20/01 04:39 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Just for you 40:



:)

-zero


Edited by absoluteZero (12/20/01 04:43 AM)


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Re: Breeding [Re: flaw]
    #496782 - 12/20/01 09:50 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

what we are talking about here is the breeding of a basidiomycota, and this means that the two strains have to run into each other, fuse, and then grow out in a dikaryotic state. what i mean by this is that the the two nuclei brought together in mating exist side-by-side in each cell, they only fuse in the basidium. this means that you must get the two separate strains to fuse, before vegetative growth occurs.
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Re: Breeding [Re: kidrhubarb]
    #496958 - 12/20/01 02:50 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

The fruit is still fresh after one day so I'll clone a a portion and print a portion. This characteristic may just be an oddball but I know for a fact that after years and years certain things stay and others go away.Peace.


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Re: Breeding [Re: absoluteZero]
    #497098 - 12/20/01 06:07 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

take that monty python foot and shove it up yer ass!!
...lol...j/k....thats awesome man!
..im going to have to use that as my sig pic!



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Re: Breeding [Re: kingkc]
    #497205 - 12/20/01 08:22 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

they have 100lb plus watermelons...im not sure if theyve gotten it up to 200lbs yet for watermelon but for pumpkins and some other melon type fruits they have hybradized them to that large of a size

btw-they have spnt quit abit of time hybradizing fruits and vegetables...and they have been doing it for longer than for bud


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Re: Breeding [Re: kingkc]
    #497280 - 12/20/01 09:39 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

hybrids can be formed by two distinct Dikaryons of the same species fusing together and exchanging genetic material to form a third distinct dikaryon.
hybrids can also be formed by mating monokaryons from different STRAINS of the same species.
Fruitability is determined by compatible monokaryons, and is not limited to mating within a single STRAIN, but is limited as of now to same species.


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Re: Breeding [Re: absoluteZero]
    #497424 - 12/21/01 12:47 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

This is my first time posting to this site, so I don't know how to start a new thread, but I got a question for a PRO out there about cloning. See the mushroom that looks like a venus flytrap in the pic. If I clone that will all of the mushrooms that I grow from that culture look like that. I understand how "cloning" mushrooms works, but I have never tried it before, they grew from spores. I know that it really technically isn't cloning, but still If I grow from this mushie's tissue, will they all look like this amazing wonder or is it only something I'm going to get to see once in my lifetime?


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