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OfflineUnclePimpy
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Albinos? (pics)
    #563112 - 02/26/02 12:17 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

These suckers showed up in my casing of Puerto Rican cub. I've read just a little on albinos but from what I can gather it's a mutation or abnormality in the shrooms. They are extremely white in color except for the brown center. There is no sign of contamination on the casing and growth conditions have been monitored. If these ARE albinos, can someone explain to me the definative difference between them and non-albino, and if they AREN'T, does anyone know why there is the lack/loss of color? I only run a 100 watt bulb for a couple hrs a day and have never seen anything like this in any other casing/teks.







Here is what the others in the same casing looked like:



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Re: Albinos? (pics) [Re: UnclePimpy]
    #563167 - 02/26/02 01:06 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

In reply to:

They are extremely white in color except for the brown center.



Then they're not albinos. Albinos have NO colour.
Also, I'm pretty sure PF's "albino" isn't either, it's just a white mushroom. Not all white organisms are albino. White button mushrooms you get in the shops aren't albino, they're just white. Not to say that you can't get albino shrooms, but if you did they would be entirely white, including the gills. 
Don't mean to rant, but the whole albino shroom thing gets on my nerves:crazy:


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Re: Albinos? (pics) [Re: UnclePimpy]
    #563169 - 02/26/02 01:09 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Looks like the results of a lack of suitable air exchange.


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Re: Albinos? (pics) [Re: Nighted]
    #563309 - 02/26/02 03:36 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think it's the air exchange, i've got 2 fish pump bublier's running and I still fan every time I open the case, oh well, I guess their just friggin white =)


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Re: Albinos? (pics) [Re: UnclePimpy]
    #563350 - 02/26/02 04:46 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I don't know about that....looks like you just have air coming in at the top. If there's CO2 in there, the oxygen is just going to get pushed right out of the top of your box unless you have a hole for exhaust near the bottom. If you have a hole in the bottom, the CO2 will drain out like water and be replaced by fresh air. I could be wrong, I doubt it, but there's that infinitesimal possibility that physics somehow work differently at your house. :wink: 

For a demonstration put a small glass under water right-side-up. Now try blowing air into it with a straw...the water doesn't go anywhere does it?

Now flip the glass up-side-down under the water making sure not to let any water out...now take the straw and blow air under the the glass...Viola, the water is replaced with fresh air! A solid demonstration of how a heavy gas interacts with a lighter gas. 


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Re: Albinos? (pics) [Re: UnclePimpy]
    #563369 - 02/26/02 05:09 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

When in doubt check for spores. ALBINOS HAVE LITTLE (IF ANY) SPORES when compared to a normal 'shroom.

They resemble albinos to me, but if they leave a dark spore print then there not.


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Re: Albinos? (pics) [Re: UnclePimpy]
    #563513 - 02/26/02 09:21 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

They look normal colored to me. Cubensis are supposed to be white with just a small gold/brown center on the cap. Any other color your used to is due to improper indoor growing conditions. The better conditions you have indoors the more wild your mushrooms will be in appearance, after all this is what your shooting for, replicating a cubes natural habitat. Any other color besides white with a gold center is a bit off and is due to imperfect indoor growing conditions. The stems do look a bit long, should probably increase airflow, then you'd have very normal almost wild looking cubes.


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Re: Albinos? (pics) [Re: Lizard King]
    #563521 - 02/26/02 09:35 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I trust your insight.



In fact, the more that I think about the many pics of wild 'shrooms pics from the Floridia/Gulf Coast area (that I have seen), the more I "see what your saying".


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Re: Albinos? (pics) [Re: Lizard King]
    #563960 - 02/26/02 06:06 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Lizardking - do you think that this could be substrate dependant?? If i grew some cubes on millet and then spawned some manure, wouldnt i get darker shroomes from the manure?? At the least, they would have darker stems.
Pf Albinos have white gills, so that to me suggests that they are pretty close to true albinos


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Re: Albinos? (pics) [Re: UnclePimpy]
    #565254 - 02/28/02 12:00 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

there cirtanly not albino. PF's are albino, because the white ones come from spores of dark ones. and it's usually a 25% rate in shaw's experiences. shaw's done them for several generations and it's favorite had a cap that was 1/3 albino. 1/3 was white and the white area didn't sporulate.


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Re: Albinos? (pics) [Re: UnclePimpy]
    #566101 - 02/28/02 07:20 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

i've had a couple pf albinos
and the thing about them is they don't have any spores.
they're sterile little buggers and all white (bluish).
chances are your's aren't albinos.


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