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So, I guess I'm Christian now...
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I had a religious experience last night. I was at a rave, and a friend of mine said she would dose me if I bought an E pill off of her. She ended up leaving the job of dosing in my hands, and what was meant to be a drop turned out to be a squirt, and needless to say I had a rather intense trip.

Let me say that Christ is not completely alien to my former worldview. My cosmology had always allowed for what I call "Christ consciousness." But after last night, Christ changed from being a part of my faith to being the center of it. I saw the face of Jesus in everything. I felt Christ consciousness running through me.

For those who haven't read about it yet, I'm writing a book on how to end world poverty. During my trip last night, that idea took on spiritual significance. I prayed to Christ to let me be the vessel through which he can end the injustice of poverty. I then began to wonder if being the vessel through which Christ works successfully could lead to a fate similar to his. I panicked at the thought of suffering for the greater good of mankind. But then I had a moment of calm, where I took refuge in Christ, and answered affirmatively "Yes Jesus, I take you as my Lord and Savior. Thy Will be done."

I want to clarify some things about my newfound Christian faith. For one, the fact that I take refuge in Christ does not mean that others cannot legitimately take refuge in other things. And when I say that Jesus is my Lord and Savior, I am basically referring to the fact that he is my refuge in life. It would be too complicated to try to explain what I mean by "refuge," so I'll leave it at that. Also, I am still firmly opposed to Biblical literalism. I believe that taking the word of the Scriptures over the spirit with which they were writen has been the cause of far too much bloodshed to justify it. I still see other faiths as containing many of the same transcendent truths, and I believe that for some people, another faith might be a more fitting spiritual path to achieve one's greatest potential. I have simply found my path through Christ. I still incorporate the insights of other faiths into my worldview, but I now see Christ as the center of my faith.


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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: Silversoul]
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Can I call you GWB2?


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"I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."

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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: Silversoul]
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That's excellent man!

Christ consciousness is an all powerful and all pervading force. I hope you will write up a trip report?


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: Silversoul]
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What did he feel like?


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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: barfightlard]
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bellylard said:
What did he feel like?


Christ-like. I really can't explain it any better than that.


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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: daimyo]
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daimyo said:
Can I call you GWB2?


I'd prefer that you didn't.


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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: Silversoul]
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What immediate changes are you making to your life(style) and/or residence, if any?


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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: daimyo]
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daimyo said:
What immediate changes are you making to your life(style) and/or residence, if any?


I'd say that I have a new outlook on life. I don't make any claims as to how this outlook will affect my future actions, except that I will approach them through a personal relationship with Christ.


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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: Silversoul]
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My husband has similar views.

Congratulations on having such a powerful experience.  :thumbup:

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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: Silversoul]
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congtatulations. i also had a life changing experience of christ consciousness several months ago. i have a gift for you: http://www.askrealjesus.com/. this website has been the most amazing find for me. it is entirely devoted to helping people rise above the carnal mind into christhood and contains over 2000 pages of christian spiritual teaching. i have been using the spiritual techniques on the site for only about 6 weeks now and i have already undergone a tremendous transformation in consciousness. it is like i have a new mind. i highly recommend it to anyone interested in spiritual growth even if you have never even considered jesus as a spiritual teacher. i hope it will be as beneficial to you as it been for me and please let me know your reaction.

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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: Silversoul]
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During my freshman year of high school, 25mg of Adderall led me to falsely believe that I had had a Christian epiphany. Strangely enough, it later had the exact same effect on a friend who had no knowledge of my previous experience.

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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: it stars saddam]
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what was the epiphany and how did it turn out to be false?

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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: Deviate]
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The drug wore off.

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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: it stars saddam]
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but what was the epiphany?

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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: Silversoul]
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wow, that's pretty cool dude, acid is some amazing stuff.


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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: Deviate]
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Hell yeah man. I don't pretend to be a good Christian but I'm a Christian nonetheless. I was a deacon in a fundamental Baptist church before I realized I was trying to be something I was not ready for. I was not called to it but trying to do it because I thought I should. I did a pretty poor job of it because God was not in it.

Nowadays I believe that there are people in the places I go that need to see Christ in someone, and most Christians don't go where I do... I'm not saying that my getting shitfaced every night is a good thing, or Christlike, but I think it is a response to a world gone horribly fucking astray. Psychedelics made me realize that God "is." Because if there is no God, there is no morality, and "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law."

Good luck on your new journey. I strongly encourage you to read the Bible starting in the New Testament for yourself before you listen to anyone else's interpretations of what it means. Have faith that if God can speak the entire human experience into existence, He can get what you need to know across to you without anyone else's interpretation being necessary.

Once in a while you can get shown the Light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right... :wink:

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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: Srirachi]
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I don't want to take this thread off topic, but I have to ask one question...why do you feel there would be no morality without a god?


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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: daimyo]
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Whew, this could get murky, but I'll try to be concise and breif.

IF there is no one but us to judge us, then why care about anyone but yourself? If this life is it, we die and turn to dust and that's it- then why not live this life to its fullest at everyone else's expense?

Wouldn't it be foolish to miss out on all the things morality restrains us from doing if it didn't matter in the end? I mean if life is not a divine design but a freak coincidence, then at some point we'll blow ourselves up, genetically engineer our doom, something. So if there is no God, why shouldn't I cut your throat and take your stuff if I think I can get away with it?

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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: Srirachi]
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it's often argued that there can be no absolute standard of right and wrong without God. sure you create many philosophical systems defining right and wrong but none of these are absolute, they are just relative right and wrong. but this is really beyond the scope of this thread.

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Re: So, I guess I'm Christian now... [Re: Srirachi]
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screenprinter said:
IF there is no one but us to judge us, then why care about anyone but yourself?


Because you are one with everyone. This, to me, is the essence of Christ consciousness. When you understand that you are your neighbor, you understand why you should love him as yourself.


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