Home | Community | Message Board

Mycohaus
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Feminized Cannabis Seeds   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
OfflineBaby_Hitler
Errorist
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 27,587
Loc: To the limit!
Last seen: 1 hour, 23 minutes
Boiled Angel -- In 1994 A guy in florida was arrested for drawing dirty pictures.
    #4773173 - 10/08/05 02:42 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/?f=mike_diana_case.notes


THE MIKE DIANA/BOILED ANGEL SAGA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The Background:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On March 31, 1994, BOILED ANGEL zine publisher Mike Diana was found
guilty of publishing a "lewd and obscene" publication. He was placed in
jail for three nights while he awaited his sentencing.
A Pinellos County, Florida judge sentenced the 24-year-old zinester to three years
probation, fined him $3,000, ordered him to take a journalism ethics
course and do eight hours a week of community service work. Further, the
judge ruled, Diana couldn't draw anything "obscene," even in the privacy
of his bedroom.
The judge ruled that a probation officer could search Diana's home --
without a warrant -- to make sure he abides by that rule.
Diana is believed to be the first cartoonist ever to be jailed for
his work.

HOW IT BEGAN
````````````
Mike Diana checked his postal box one day last April and saw a letter
from the county Clerk of Courts office. He figured it was a notice for
his overdue traffic tickets; pay them and forget it, he thought. But what
the envelope actually contained was a summons to appear in court to face
three state charges: publishing, advertising and distributing lewd and
obscene material relating to BOILED ANGEL.
"I was surprised," says the droll Diana, who often speaks in quiet
understatements.
The 24-year-old zine publisher had little time to prepare his
defense -- or even find an attorney. He was ordered to appear in court
four days later. But he figured the hearing would be a quiet affair in
which he could simply explain the matter away. He was wrong.
Diana was stunned when he arrived at the courthouse on April 19,
1993, to find mobs of reporters and cameras waiting for him; his case
was a media event in the Tampa area. There were plenty of visuals for
the news broadcasts to air as picketers confronted Diana, most of them
elderly women who held signs that read, "Down with Diana."
At that hearing, in which Diana pleaded not guilty, both sides held
informal press conferences. The prosecutor told reporters that BOILED
ANGEL contributed "to the breakdown of the moral fiber of the country."
He said Diana should seek help and stay away from children. Diana
responded on camera with a simple, "Bull!"
After the court appearance, Diana said he was puzzled by his
troubles. "I thought we had freedoms. And my distribution is so small I
didn't think they'd mess with me."

WHO IS MIKE DIANA?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mike Diana has been fascinated with the bizarre since childhood. In a
1991 OBSCURE interview, he said he drew pictures of decapitated people as
early as kindergarten. And when the class was told to sketch a family
portrait, Diana -- as an elementary school student -- drew his parents
and brothers and sisters without their clothes on.
"They didn't like that," he said of the school's reaction to his art.
"My parents got called in."
His mom and dad were hardly June and Ward Cleaver imitators, though.
When Diana was seven, his mother studied nursing and practiced giving
enemas to her son. "I was the guinea pig," he says.
The family's household resembled a Norman Rockwell painting gone
twisted. "One Christmas, when I was eight, my dad went to an auction and
bought two huge bags of voodoo dolls that were handmade in Haiti. We had
hundreds of them so we hung a bunch of them on the Christmas tree as
ornaments."
And it only got worse.
"When I was about 12, I had a pet hamster that was a male and my
sister had a female hamster, so one night our mom called me and my sister
into her room and had us each bring our hamsters. She said it was time to
teach us about sex. She laid the hamsters on her bed and made me and my
sister watch them mate. After the hamsters finished, she told us that
that was sex was."
While other kids were showing off their new toys in show-and-tell,
Diana brought in things like a skull collection and dead fish to amuse
his classmates.
Although raised Roman Catholic, Diana never bought into church
beliefs. He says that in Bible Study, he would deface pictures of Christ
and in the confessional, the priest would ask if he sinned by using swear
words. "I'd respond, 'Fuck no!'" he says.
He began publishing comics at age 16. His zine originally was called
ANGEL FUCK. He tamed the title a few issues later, but the content
remained heavily blasphemous and violent. He became a legend in the
publishing underground.
But he ran into his first series of setbacks about three years ago
when he was fired from his custodial job after he was caught using school
copiers to print BOILED ANGEL. He used the machine on a Sunday and
couldn't remove a jammed cover from the rollers. A secretary found it the
next day and went to school officials. Diana was out; he found work at
his dad's liquor store -- a job he holds to this day.


WHY THE STATE OF FLORIDA MESSED WITH DIANA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In 1991, Florida officials were stymied by the murders of
Gainesville college students. They had no leads -- until they somehow
stumbled on a copy of BOILED ANGEL. They decided to check out Diana.
"In December of 1991, these two agents came to my mom's house and I
happened to be there. They said they had a copy of BOILED ANGEL #6 -- I
had only sent out ten copies at that point -- and they said because of
that I was a suspect in the Gainesville murders and they wanted me to
take a blood test and get my blood type and they told me not to print
anything else or they were going to press charges," recalls Diana.
He asked what they could charge him with. "They said obscenity and
they said they could arrest me right there for it and they asked me a
lot of questions about it but I didn't answer any of them."
The cops left and Diana never heard from them again.
"I think it was just like the Gainesville hysteria or something," he
says.
But several months later, Diana got a subscription order to BOILED
ANGEL that had a Largo, Florida area return address. He was puzzled
because he had never gotten orders from community people before; nobody
knew about his zine, as far as he knew. He didn't figure out at the time
that it was the local authorities subscribing to BOILED ANGEL. Before
they moved in on Diana, they got BOILED ANGEL #7 AND #ATE. The latter
issue was Diana's cannibalism issue, which featured an interview with
"Cannibal Killer" Ottis O'Toole. He talked about making bar-b-que sauce
from little boys and rambled on about other absurdities; anybody in the
zine world would laugh at the material, but the state attorney's office
took it seriously and issued their summons. Diana, whose circulation
never topped 300, soon became famous.

DELAYS....DELAYS...DELAYS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
While Diana's trial was delayed -- seemingly, again and again -- the
debate over his work intensified. The Religious Right continued to badger
him at hearings. In a televised exchange, some woman approached Diana.
"They said they were trying to save my soul and that they were praying
for me. I said, 'Oh, you're praying that I'll win?'"
One woman asked Diana if he had been sexually abused as a child,
suggesting that was the inspiration for his often sexually-explicit drawings.
"I said, 'No, but it's none of your business anyway.' Then I asked
her if she had ever been molested by a priest."
The St. Petersburg Times solicited so-called experts for their views
on the case. Among the responses:
> From Jack Moore, chairman of the American Studies Department of the
University of South Florida: "My heart is opposed to what the guy's
doing; it sounds repugnant. But free speech, if it means anything, is the
presentation of often repugnant material. You can't say I'm for free
speech except in this one area."
> From Prosector Rebecca Graham: "I can't think of any right that an
individual has that isn't limited in one way or another by the laws we
have all decided to live by. That's what we teach our children."
> From Boise State University Professor Tom Trusky: "If a publication
can drive someone to acts of violence, parts of the Bible should have
been cut out long ago."
> From Mike Diana Sr., the zinester's father: "You can't be arrested
for the stuff in your head. He's not hurting anyone. They make him a
suspect in a murder case 150 miles away because he draws comics? They've
treated him like he's a mass murderer."
The only blessing from the sage, in Diana's mind, was that he found a
girlfriend because of his troubles. His romance even made the local
papers. The woman he met had had legal problems of her own at one time.
She had produced a local public access cable show called Morbid
Underground. Last March, she aired some footage of the late toilet-rocker
G.G. Allin doing his act, which was masturbating and defacating on stage.
The cable outfit yanked her show and she felt the heat of the State
Attorney's Office. After two months, the local authorities ruled that
they local obscenity laws didn't cover defacation. She was freed, but the
ordeal "totally messed up my life," she said. When she heard of Diana's
censorship woes, she extended her support....and one thing led to another.

THE END RESULT
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is expected to appeal the
conviction on behalf of Diana. Meanwhile, cartoonists around the country
have expressed dismay, if not outrage, by the verdict.
Said Pultizer-Prize winning cartoonist Art Spiegelman: "I think the
Florida decision is barbaric. It seems like backwoods, Faulknerian
thinking." He added that the court was confused "between the dreams and
hallucinations put on paper -- which requires discipline and self-control
-- and acting out those inner demons."
Even Mort Walker, who draws the harmless Beetle Bailey cartoons, came
to Diana's defense. He told the St. Petersburg Times that people are too
sensitive about cartoon characters these days. Comic violence should not
be judged by the same standard as more realistic depictions of blood and
gore, Walker said.
"There's a certain license you have when you're a cartoonist to be
extreme, because a cartoon is so extreme, so exaggerated. That's why it
is a cartoon."

###
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The print version of OBSCURE PUBLICATIONS is $2/issue to POB 1334,
Milwaukee, WI 53201. The OBSCURE "Sex Issue" (#26) is now available.
Also, the latest INTERNET TIP SHEET features Netster's reactions to
Madonna on Letterman's Show; there's also reactions to MTV's Kennedy's
voyage into the Mindvox BBS culture; and finally, get the WELL elite's
on-line comments to SPY magazine's folding. INTERNET TIP SHEET is
available by sending an SASE to Jim Romenesko, POB 1334, Milwaukee, WI 53201.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




From jerod23@well.sf.ca.us Sat Apr 16 18:29:05 1994
Received: from well.sf.ca.us(jerod23@well.sf.ca.us [198.93.4.10]/jerod23@well.sf.ca.us) by eff.org (8.6.8.1/8.6.8) with ESMTP id SAA09778 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 1994 18:29:03 -0400
Received: (from [Email]jerod23@localhost)[/Email] by well.sf.ca.us (8.6.8/8.6.6) id PAA10943 for [Email]mech@eff.org;[/Email] Sat, 16 Apr 1994 15:29:01 -0700
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 15:29:01 -0700
From: Jerod Pore
Message-Id: <199404162229.PAA10943@well.sf.ca.us>
To: mech@eff.org
Subject: Mike Diana
Status: RO


From: milmag@mindvox.phantom.com (James Romenesko)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 94 22:40:10 EST
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Mike Diana Found Guilty

Boiled Angel zine publisher Mike Diana was found guilty on Friday of
publishing obscene materials. He was whisked off to jail after the
Florida jury came back with its verdict. He was be sentenced on Monday;
the district attorney is asking for two years in jail. Diana's zine had a
circulation of 300.


From: mfragass@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (Michael Fragassi)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 13:00:56 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.censorship,alt.zines
Subject: Re: Mike Diana case

In <2nqids$hpa@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> cburian@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Christopher J Burian) writes:

>It seems absurd to me, given the Supreme Court's interpretation of "obscenity"
>wrt the First Amendment, that any drawing could be ruled obscene. One has
>to ask, "how can a drawing not be art???" To rule something obscene, a court
>must find the thing "without artistic merit." No matter how lewd and
>offensive a drawing might be, it is nevertheless, "art," and if it is selected
>for publication, presumably has *some* amount of artistic merit, else it would
>not be published.

I've been doing some research into the trial, and here's an extract from
an article that appeared in the St. Petersburg Times. In relation to
your post, this will make crystal clear the basis for the prosecution's
case that Diana's work is "without artistic merit".

"And by the end of the first day of testimony in Michael Diana's
obscenity trial, a pair of Eckerd College professors agreed that his
Boiled Angel comic book displayed neither literary or artistic merit.
However, both said parts of the comic book showed skill, and one
even called the 24-year-old Diana "a flawed artist."
"His drawings are exuberant, wild and kind of interesting in a
macabre kind of way," Eckerd art professor James Crane testified.
...
Novelist and literature professor Sterling Watson testified he
spent hours poring over the stories, poems and interviews that Diana
published. Boil down Boiled Angel, he said, and the theme is: "Some
people have seen the truth and the truth is ugly."
Watson said some of the writing showed literary skill. But to
be literature it should also provide readers with an affirmation of
life, he said.
In Steinbeck's classic novel The Grapes of Wrath, he noted, a
woman whose baby is stillborn allowed a starving man to nurse at her
breast. The image is shocking, he said, but it offers an affirmation of
life -- something lacking in Boiled Angel.
...
But Crane said Diana presented his disturbing pictures with no
sense of timing: "The emotional impact is like a jackhammer -- bam!
bam! bam!"
That's not art, he said. Art will build to a climax and then
provide the viewer with a needed sense of release."

Such passes for literary criticism at "Eckerd College", whatever the
hell that is. 2-year junior college? Correspondence school? One of
those technical institutes that advertises on late-night tv? And then
this guy Watson is a "novelist"; I wonder what kind of "art" he does.
Novelizations of Barney episodes? Lord knows they're plenty life
affirming, kind of like Valium. And they gently build to a climax, too.

The lesson is clear: the prosecution had two alleged experts with
initials after their names who were locals; the defense had an artist
(Peter Kuper) and a publisher (Seth Friedman) from out of town who
nobody had ever heard of before.

The quotes from the psychologist expert witness were even better.
Thrill to the wisdom of Sidney Merin, "psychologist", also as reported
in the St. Petersburg Times:
"The controversial comic book, published by 24-year-old Michael
Diana, appeals only to "deviant groups," Merin testified in Diana's
obscenity trial Thursday.
Merin then ticked off a list of those groups: the borderline
personality, the "fringe element," the marginal personality, the
"bizarrely unstable" and "those who have a libertine bent in their
thinking."
As for the drawings Diana put in his homemade comic book, Merin
told the jury, "In my opinion they are warped and profane.""

Gee, I must have missed the entry for "those who have a libertine bent
in their thinking" in the DSM-III-R. I also guess I forgot to fill out
the mail survey that he sent out across the nation that permitted him to
nail the reader demographics so darn accurately.

(Both excerpts from the St. Petersburg Times, the former from 3/24/94,
"Comic book lacks merit as art, experts testify", by
Craig Pittman; the latter from 3/25/94, "Comic book called 'warped and
profane'", also by Craig Pittman, p. 3b.)

--
__________________________________________________________
Mike Fragassi mfragass@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu
Psychology & Cognitive Science Program, Indiana University


Dear Mr. Pore:

My local newspaper, the Ft. Lauderdale _Sun-Sentinel_, ran a short
article today, on page 10 A, about the _Boiled _Angel_ 'zine case you
mentioned in your recent mailing. Here it is, reprinted without
permission. (Please mail it to the F5-E list, if you feel that
appropriate--since I'm commenting on the case, it's probably not
copyright infringement.)

MAN GETS PROBATION IN OBSCENITY CASE
Clearwater -- A man whose comic book portraying sexual abuse,
cannibalism and bestiality was deemed obscene by a jury has been
sentenced to three years' probation and fined $3,000.
Michael Diana, 24, the creator of the self-published comic book
_Boiled Angel_, was also sentenced on Monday to undergo a psychiatric
evaluation, avoid contact with anyone younger than 18 and perform eight
hours of community service a week during his probation.

The paper also ran a statement on the same page made at a
sentencing hearing.

"There is much I'd like to say, your honor, about our world and my
beliefs and the destiny of man. However, I feel whatever I might
have to say at this moment is overshadowed by the grief I've caused.
"I regret with all my heart what my hand has done. I have taken
what I cannot return. If only I could bend back the hands on that ageless
clock and change the past... ah, but alas, I am not the keeper of time, only
a small part of history and the legacy of mankind's fall from grace.
"I'm sorry, your honor."

Oh, my. I'm sorry. That wasn't Michael Diana, that was Danny
Rolling. Ah, this is Florida--murder, obscenity... what's the
difference?

YHOS,
Mitch

Mitchell L. Silverman | A government that is big enough to give you all
General Studies | you want is big enough to take it all away.
New College of USF | - Barry Goldwater
Sarasota, Florida | Extremism in the defense of extremism is no vice.
silverma@virtu.sar.usf.edu | - J. R. "Bob" Dobbs, Rant Tape 16 (1980)


In alt.zines you write:

>Fuck. But what could we expect, anyway?

>Obviously, a boycott of Florida products and services is in order, but what
>else can we do.

Well, for starters, I have seen extremely little publicity about Diana's
troubles outside of the zine scene. I've been going around telling this
story to various people I know, and the general reaction has been "what
the hell? I never knew this was going on." Michael Kole's comments
about the differences between rap and zines are true, but the number one
difference was that the whole 2 Live Crew case was flooded in publicity;
Luther Campbell couldn't just be quietly swept away into a jail cell. So
even though this case will never be able to generate as much publicity
as that one did automatically, it's still true that this is probably the
most severe act of censorship that has taken place in the country of
late; if you make some noise about it, people will notice. Especially
on the net, where you have access to the ears of a highly educated bunch
of people who are strongly pro-civil-liberties.

What I'm getting at is, how come I only saw information about this case
on alt.zines? An initial step you could take would be to take your
files of correspondence about the trial, maybe condense it, and include
an introductory summary, and post to alt.censorship,
alt.comics.alternative, talk.politics.misc, and maybe either
rec.arts.comics.misc or rec.arts.comics.info, at the least.

Beyond that...here's some thoughts. I don't know how much of this
you've already thought of or have already been doing; if so, sorry for
repeating the obvious. First, you can encourage zines & glossier rags
to do artices on the case, to spread the word and copy what information
you've got. I haven't seen an issue of F5 lately, but if you haven't
already dedicated some pages to the whole situation, do that. There
and elsewhere (the net, correspondence, etc.), encourage people to get
any friends with reporting or freelance writing jobs to take up the
story, out of the "underground" and into bigger rags and newspapers.
Hell, you could possibly even interest some of the glossier music rags
in covering the story, if you send them information on the case, and
that you're willing to answer any questions they might have. (Great
spin on the case: first rap, then Pee-Wee Herman, now this.) I don't
know about trying to get someone to cover the story in Spin, Rolling
Stone or Raygun -- I'm sure it would at least rankle you deeply, if not
violate the whole principle of your dedication to small self-publishers
-- but what the fuck, make a stink. As Keepers of the Meta-Zine
Zine(tm, pat.pend.), you and Freidman (sp? sorry) are suitable for the
ad hoc role of posing as "spokesmen for zinedom", at least temporarily,
for trying to get something done to help Mike Diana.

Please continue to post developments of the case, esp. whether the ACLU
chooses to step in. For what it's worth, I'm a member, and if they
don't take up the case, I intend to make as much of stink as I possibly
can. That's not much, but outraged phone calls to ACLU executives from
members might help to sway things. In fact, if they don't want to touch
the case, I'll get some phone numbers and post them.

All this, and I still haven't seen any of the comics (only a few panels
in some zines). I still don't know all of the details, like what
exactly the case was based upon, any specific pages or images, or what
the law was, why it's not unconstitutional. I don't have tv either so I
couldn't catch the kangaroo court in action. Anyway, I hope this is
useful.

P.S. Frankly, I think that the notion of a boycott is silly. First,
get more publicity for this; then perhaps there might be some popular
sympathy with the notion of a boycott. But even then, there's something
odd about boycotting a state; hell, if you tell anyone you're boycotting
_anything_ people nowadays tend to assume you're a wacko engaged in
self-delusion about the effects of your buying power. People are too
inured to hearing about yet another new boycott, it makes them blase to
whatever you're concerned about. It had some good effect in Colorado,
but that was sparked by a popular vote that had major national coverage
from the start, with a lot of immediate sympathy towards a boycott. I
hate to say it, but if you try to enlist people who aren't familiar with
this case to join a boycott, then they might not take this whole issue
very seriously.

P.S.S. A final thought. Try asking Joe Bob Briggs to write this up in
a column. He'd probably be sympathetic, and his column gets some
syndication. What the hell.

-- Mike.
__________________________________________________________
Mike Fragassi mfragass@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu
Psychology & Cognitive Science Program, Indiana University

From: dr254@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Laurence C. Roberts)
Date: 29 Mar 1994 01:37:19 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Mike Diana's sentence



Just talked to Seth Friedman of Factsheet Five, who was a witness
in the trial. Mike was found guilty on Friday, and the sentencing was
today. The judge made Mike stay in jail over the weekend, even though
Mike's sentence includes no jail time. (In this case, making him stay
in jail without bail was an abuse of the justice system.) The sentence
handed down today:
- 3 years probation
- Mike must stay away from children
- Mike is not allowed to draw (!?)
- Mike must attend a journalism class (!?)
- $3000 fine

>From what I've heard, the case was kind of mis-handled. I don't think
Mike took it seriously enough. I certainly can believe the reports
that he didn't follow up on getting the ACLU to represent him. The
lawyer he did have only started working on getting expert witnesses
a month ago, when the original araignment was a year ago.
And the people doing the benefit zine were sending out redundant
mailings, doing the kind of fundraiser that loses more money than it
raises.

It's sad isn't it.

Larry-bob
lroberts@bellahs.com



From: milmag@mindvox.phantom.com (James Romenesko)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 94 18:24:53 EST
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Mike Diana Can't Draw, Says the Judge

In addition to the various fines and punishments levied on BOILED ANGEL
publisher Mike Diana, there was the court order that Diana couldn't
sketch "obscene" drawings "even for his private use." The judge said:
"The probation office can make a warrantless search to make sure that's
carred out." Welcome to the New America!


--------------------
Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ
(•_•)
<) )~  ANTIFA
/ \
\(•_•)
( (>    SUPER
/ \
(•_•)
<) )>    SOLDIERS
  / \


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleit stars saddam
Satan

Registered: 05/19/05
Posts: 15,571
Loc: Spahn Ranch
Re: Boiled Angel -- In 1994 A guy in florida was arrested for drawing dirty pictures. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #4773391 - 10/08/05 03:44 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I'm definitely going to get ahold of a copy.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblebukkake
Male

Registered: 05/28/05
Posts: 2,764
Loc: Classified
Re: Boiled Angel -- In 1994 A guy in florida was arrested for drawing dirty pictures. [Re: it stars saddam]
    #4773671 - 10/08/05 04:59 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

We are both the most advanced nation, yet one of the most primitive.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Feminized Cannabis Seeds   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* FIFTEEN strippers arrested during lunch-time roundup(with pics)
( 1 2 all )
lonestar2004 3,245 39 08/01/05 10:15 PM
by LeftyBurnz
* US Anti-War Protests Flare, More Than 1,000 Arrests
( 1 2 3 4 all )
pattern 6,809 66 03/23/03 11:19 PM
by Xlea321
* Rush Limbaugh Arrested on Drug Charges
( 1 2 all )
1stimer 2,425 31 04/29/06 07:00 PM
by SirTripAlot
* Porter Goss wants CIA to be able to arrest Americans SquattingMarmot 859 14 08/18/04 08:41 AM
by Learyfan
* FOUR sticky-fingered GIs have been arrested
( 1 2 all )
wingnutx 1,603 24 04/24/03 11:24 PM
by Anonymous
* More about Bush supports boiling people to death carbonhoots 794 8 12/15/03 11:11 AM
by Learyfan
* Inspectors conclude "No WMD since 1994" Xlea321 1,373 8 03/04/04 11:53 PM
by Xlea321
* Two PETA employees arrested for animal Cruelty.
( 1 2 all )
lonestar2004 2,138 29 06/19/05 06:18 PM
by RandalFlagg

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Enlil, ballsalsa
2,524 topic views. 3 members, 9 guests and 6 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.022 seconds spending 0.004 seconds on 12 queries.