Phred said:

OldWoodSpecter writes:

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But what makes the watch yours? What does it mean when something is yours?

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We clearly are talking about two different concepts of ownership. You claim no one can own anything, apparently because there is always the possibility someone else will seize it from you.

If I find a chunk of flint on the shore of a river, fashion it into a blade, and use it to cut a branch from a tree with which to produce a walking stick, do I own that flint knife? Do I own that walking stick? If not, why not?



Phred

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Phred said:

OldWoodSpecter writes:

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I never said when someone steals something from you that you NEVER owend it. You did.

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What you said was -- "The REAL truth is (outside beliefs of people) is that nobody owns anything really"

"Owns" in that sentence is present tense. Yet now you are saying I did own my watch. How can that be if "nobody owns anything really"? Are you saying ownership is possible up till the point someone decides to seize your stuff at which time the concept becomes invalid?


Phred

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Phred said:

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In here, we discuss how there is no meaning to anything save the meaning we impart.

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In here, a lot of nonsense gets discussed. Doesn't mean the nonsensical has any relationship to reality.

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So you suscribe to the unsubstantiated belief that any meaning exists objectively?

If that is the case, then I don't know who should be speaking of relationships to reality, considering the fact that nothing beyond our own mind contains and implies meaning. Put a person in a room and every perception and subsequent abstract thought that occurs within them is a result of themselves and the nature of their perspective and its interaction with its environment through the senses.

No meaning is inherent within the environment. No meaning exists objectively. God doesn't directly download abstractions to your mind from The Source.  That stop sign has no meaning. You said something about wanting to debate?


Peace.