Paradigm said:

To point to the chaos in New Orleans and say that that's the face of anarchy is like pointing to TRL and saying that that's the face of democracy.

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question_for_joo said:

Plus there is all the anger and bitterness that 300 years of brutal slavery and another hundred of Jim Crow oppression could cause. No doubt many of those folk don't have a deep love for the US Govt in the bosom of their hearts.

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BleaK said:

anarchy cant work when there are too many humans to survie on too little resources.
nothing can really.

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Ravus said:

BleaK said:

anarchy cant work when there are too many humans to survie on too little resources.
nothing can really.

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That's where natural selection will eventually come in and save the day.

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looner2 said:

Doesn't work so well in Lousiana.

Raw human nature right on TV. Case study right there.

They've formed into packs in the beginning, then gangs, and its been reported into large roving armies armed to the teeth in the bed of trucks. Rape, murder, theft... all in front of the cameras eyes.

From seeing this, you wonder how far you can take idealism in practice. How far can we as humans progress before our raw humanity yanks us back into reality?

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Shroomism said:

I thought after 9/11.. we were supposed to be "united" as a country, and prepared for anything. guess not.

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Bamaman said:

I don't care where our military was or wasn't...we were simply not prepared.

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lovelight was dogging bush as though this situation spinning out of control is his fault. to think that the top officials of all these top agencies involved are dragging ass is ridiculous.

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if they are slower than they could be, (which may be the case), it isn't purposeful or even related to the iraqi war. it's because they simply don't know how to handle something they have NEVER had to handle before.

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without experience with something very similar of this magnitude anyone would be overwhelmed. the resources are only one tiny piece of the problem and could not possibly been forseen.

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I believe that there are military operations that deal with evacuation, and perhaps this might have been a little more useful than hunting down people after they roam around destruction. You assure us that it simply could not have possibly been foreseen, but yet city planning necessitates that scenarios that pertain to a city are recognized and accomodated for, as there are millions of lives at stake. Days beforehand, it was common awareness that this was going to happen. After it happened, it was painfully obvious exactly what was going on and what the situation was, right? What happened then?

I mean, hell, the government was playing out scenarios of hiijacked airliners crashing into the World Trade Center months before it actually happened. Apparently they were aware of the threat then and were undergoing operations to prepare for when it would happen (even though they failed miserably to succeed in preventing it from happening... I wonder why...). We then proceeded to invest billions and years of time in invading a foreign country that posed no threat to ourselves under pretense, diverting funds and focus away from situations and concerns that actually, directly affect our lives. So we're so concerned about terrorism that we will rearrange the surface of the globe, but yet we are blisfully unaware of serious and actual threats to our home? Remember that little "why?"?

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the politics was brought up by lovelight. the war was brought up by lovelight. bush was brought up by lovelight.

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Damn straight. I'm glad she did. Politics, its faces, and its causes are the summation of what we concern ourselves with on a national level and our own group mentality. We've undergone massive relief efforts in other countries far beyond our own, we enter into completely foreign territory time and time again to remove other groups by force, but yet we fail to implement a simple plan of evacuating thousands from one of our own cities when we desperately need our own help?

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it is just annoying to see someone pointing there fingers at someone and indicating that it is their fault for not getting things done faster.

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Its even more annoying to see someone make brazen assumptions and to dismiss any point as "pointing fingers", but not actually ask questions and investigate into situations.

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lovelight, nor you, or i have any idea what these guys are facing right now or the enormous decisions they are having to make.

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These "enormous" decisions probably went something along the lines of "I have my own agenda that has tied up trillions of dollars, I don't actually care about the few thousand, poor morons who didn't evacuate the city, the city is fucked anyways, so we'll let them drown and shoot themselves", and then later on "We've totally dropped the ball on this one, it turns out that massive disasters in our own country are something our people actually care about, so we'll cover up our own mistakes by underlining how troublesome the looters are, and how we'll then go and remove them, saving the day... yeah, that's it, it should divert their attention, looters fit the 'terrorist' profile.."

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i doubt that even if we knew how to play the political game, that they are experienced in playing, that we would want to be in their shoes or could do any better.

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Indeed, we are simple, poor morons who are too confused by the flickering lights to understand the reality of what goes on in the world.

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the last thing we need is for the citizens of this country to start implicating the ones with this burden of prioritizing as being at fault for anything we are seeing.

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Hey, maybe you do understand the game of politics after all, you are assuring us what we do and do not need.

Are you sure you weren't dispatched by the Republican Party? 

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this shit is contagious, and the last thing we need are riots by those who feel resentful toward those in charge. don't think for a moment that it can't happen...people are just needing an excuse. and this is not the time to give them one.

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Indeed, relate those who question those who are in "charge" () to the rioters. 

So we aren't allowed to bring attention and focus to the "why's?? Why not? It is the decision makers (all of us) who are responsible for the direction that we go in and that which we concern ourselves with, and if the organization that represents those decision makers decides to be more concerned with its own magical games of "hunt the terrorists to hide the serious troubles our country is/is going to face as a result of our own mistakes from our own ignorance" instead of actually recognizing, preparing for, and implementing plans for concerns that actually effect us, we, the decision makers, have full right to question them and everything.

I know questioning everything and analyzing all aspects of a situation pose a great threat to people that make severe blunders or are playing their own shady games, so nevermind. 


Peace.

kaiowas said:

we're split in more ways than two

*takes off duality cloke*

but that's all an illusion!!!!! 

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