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The Democrat With The Lazy Eye
    #7761994 - 12/15/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Just saw this in a signature:

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mountebank

(1) A hawker of quack medicines who attracts customers with stories, jokes, or tricks.
(2) A flamboyant charlatan.
(3) Mike Huckabee




:lol:

Who else wants to see this guy get grinded into meat by the media? They seemed to be more than ready. :smirk:


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7762007 - 12/15/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

In spite of the Democrats never seeming like such a tantalizing option in spite of themselves, in the light of the scathingly corrupt Repuplican Whitehouse, I doubt there will ever be another Democratic Whitehouse again. Voting for Bush in the first and second places was a vote against brainpower all together - by the majority of the nation. As the nation gets more guilty about spending the reserves into the future generations it will become more like someone's war calloused grandpa, never admitting past mistakes, never admitting failure. And will go into the grave as such.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7762009 - 12/15/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's the calm before the storm.

Why is this in P&S?


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7762021 - 12/15/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You stoner :smirk:



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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7762086 - 12/15/07 02:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Tchan909 said:
Why is this in P&S?



Looks like someone else has a lazy eye as well.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: eve69]
    #7762398 - 12/15/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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eve69 said:
In spite of the Democrats never seeming like such a tantalizing option in spite of themselves, in the light of the scathingly corrupt Repuplican Whitehouse, I doubt there will ever be another Democratic Whitehouse again. Voting for Bush in the first and second places was a vote against brainpower all together - by the majority of the nation. As the nation gets more guilty about spending the reserves into the future generations it will become more like someone's war calloused grandpa, never admitting past mistakes, never admitting failure. And will go into the grave as such. 




I have thought this myself.:( Plus the Democrats are usually dumb enough to pick the most unappealing candidate possible. I'm fairly sure they will in this election. They have so much to choose from.:crazy2:

What forum am I in.:confused:


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Icelander]
    #7763126 - 12/15/07 08:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I was stoned. :bongload: I'd move it myself, but you know. :shrug:


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7764871 - 12/16/07 10:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know about America. The more I learn the more close I think we are to Rome on the way out. Soon there will just be a few rich families. American mafia as it were, while the rest of us become as pointless as movers and shakers as the working class anywhere ever.

America was created to prevent this which is happening, what never was wanted. Thus history does always repeat.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: eve69]
    #7768727 - 12/17/07 09:58 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Holy shit, do none of you people realize that Mike Huckabee is a Republican?


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: eve69]
    #7768947 - 12/17/07 11:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't know about America. The more I learn the more close I think we are to Rome on the way out. Soon there will just be a few rich families. American mafia as it were, while the rest of us become as pointless as movers and shakers as the working class anywhere ever.

America was created to prevent this which is happening, what never was wanted. Thus history does always repeat.




Seems so.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Icelander]
    #7768977 - 12/17/07 11:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

C'mon.

The United States has provided the largest number of people with the highest standard of living of any state, nation, or empire that has ever existed.

To compare it with Rome, which in its glory days was built on slave labor and who's citizens turned out in the tens of thousands to see public murders at the Coliseum is absolutely ridiculous.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7769094 - 12/17/07 11:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ridiculous for you maybe but I see it much differently than you do and I've stated my reasons for this belief for years on this forum. I'm guessing that debating this issue with you would be as productive as debating with a born again Christian. So I won't.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Icelander]
    #7769124 - 12/17/07 11:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, I'm not familiar with anything you've posted.

I'm in the middle of writing a final paper for this Volcanology class and have absolutely no time for an argument, and thus will take your word for it.

I reserve the right to debate your "Blame America First" stance at some future time.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7769143 - 12/17/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't have a "blame america first" stance. It's just that we are talking about america here.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7769613 - 12/17/07 01:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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The United States has provided the largest number of people with the highest standard of living of any state, nation, or empire that has ever existed.



The country at the top of the Human Development list is Norway, not the United states.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Silversoul]
    #7769622 - 12/17/07 01:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Go figure... they were once the poorest, coldest country in Europe... then those backwards Nords found oil... LOTS AND LOTS OF OIL.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Silversoul]
    #7769704 - 12/17/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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The United States has provided the largest number of people with the highest standard of living of any state, nation, or empire that has ever existed.



The country at the top of the Human Development list is Norway, not the United states.




How many people are there in Norway?

How many in the US?

If you re-read my statement, you'll see I was not in error.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7772589 - 12/18/07 01:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Holy shit, do none of you people realize that Mike Huckabee is a Republican?




I realize that he considers himself to be a Republican, and runs as one.... but, other than that.... I can't really think of any real ways in which he actually is a Republican.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7772596 - 12/18/07 01:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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The United States has provided the largest number of people with the highest standard of living of any state, nation, or empire that has ever existed.

To compare it with Rome, which in its glory days was built on slave labor and who's citizens turned out in the tens of thousands to see public murders at the Coliseum is absolutely ridiculous.




I'm not proposing the comparison, which seems to have more to do with the ascent and subsequent collapse, which would subsequently suggest that your points in quotations here are pretty irrelevant to the comparison.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7773032 - 12/18/07 08:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Madtowntripper said:
Holy shit, do none of you people realize that Mike Huckabee is a Republican?




I realize that he considers himself to be a Republican, and runs as one.... but, other than that.... I can't really think of any real ways in which he actually is a Republican.




He seems to hate gay people, evolution, and abortion.

Which pretty much sums up the agenda of Ron Paul and the rest of the Republican party.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7773049 - 12/18/07 08:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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He seems to hate gay people, evolution, and abortion.

Which pretty much sums up the agenda of Ron Paul and the rest of the Republican party.




Guilt by association? The only thing that Ron Paul opposes on a personal level is abortion, and he has the most enlightened answer to the abortion problem that I've ever heard a politician propose.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7773069 - 12/18/07 08:44 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Enlightened in *your* opinion.

I think he sounds like a jack-booted thug who can't keep his nose out of my business.

Just because you like what he says doesn't make it right to anyone else.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7773114 - 12/18/07 09:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

No, enlightened, as in, he has formulated the most effective response to the dilemna that respects the right to choose of the American people.

He has stated that, the more complex an issue is, the best solution is to put the power of choice as close to the individual as possible. He recognizes the differences in opinions and respects the fact that his answer isn't anyone else's. He says it is up to the state and that the federal government has no place within it.

How exactly has he put your nose into your business? :what:


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7773739 - 12/18/07 01:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Just talking about the abortion issue in particular.

Ron Paul has said that he thinks Roe v. Wade should be readjudicated.

I disagree and think Roe v. Wade is one of the cornerstones of our biological freedoms.

If that connection isn't clear...


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7773902 - 12/18/07 01:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Holy shit, do none of you people realize that Mike Huckabee is a Republican?




Hahahahaha


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7775261 - 12/18/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Just talking about the abortion issue in particular.

Ron Paul has said that he thinks Roe v. Wade should be readjudicated.

I disagree and think Roe v. Wade is one of the cornerstones of our biological freedoms.

If that connection isn't clear...





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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Syle]
    #7777143 - 12/19/07 10:41 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Madtowntripper said:
Just talking about the abortion issue in particular.

Ron Paul has said that he thinks Roe v. Wade should be readjudicated.

I disagree and think Roe v. Wade is one of the cornerstones of our biological freedoms.

If that connection isn't clear...





dude, give up while you're only mildly behind.




What part of that don't you understand?

Ron Paul wants to de-facto ban abortion.

I think people should be able to have abortions.

Ron Paul thinks HE knows what is better for ME than *I* do.

How is that not sticking his nose in my business?

Follow that?


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7780544 - 12/20/07 06:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Ron Paul wants to de-facto ban abortion.




No he doesn't. I can understand why he would have a strong, personal, moral objection to it. Its almost always needless death of a living thing, no matter which way you slice it.

Regardless, your ignorance in unwarranted - unless, of course, you could cite any source. A central theme that has arisen in Ron Paul's campaign, from his being questioned of the personal practices and beliefs of some elements of his electic movement of supporters, is that, with freedom, others are free to concern themselves with that which oneself personally would morally object to, such as prostitution.

Of course, then the only real question, with abortion, is whether or not the baby is entitled to the same rights and freedoms as any other human being. This is where the debate begins, and the reason why abortion is the issue that it is, is because there are opposing views on the matter that are each held with strong conviction.

What is Ron Paul's answer to that? Well, it isn't your blatant misunderstanding of the matter, that's for certain. He believes that, the more complex the issue, the more localized the solution needs to be. State governments are more effective in representing their people than a federal government is capable of representing all of America. Makes sense, when you actually think about it. Ron Paul does not think it is a federal matter, just like pretty much everything, and wants to put the issue closer to the people for them to decide for themselves.

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I think people should be able to have abortions.




I think that a woman, ultimately, has the right to have one, if she so chooses, but the practice should be discouraged. After all, it doesn't really make sense to have one in the first place. I mean, first off, it is life, but even if you don't want to go that far, its a waste of energy and a hardship for women to endure, in a world where a woman can easily prevent it from ever getting to that stage if she wants to.

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Ron Paul thinks HE knows what is better for ME than *I* do.

How is that not sticking his nose in my business?

Follow that?




Nope. :sorry:

Any legitimate objections to Ron Paul? :smirk:


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7780637 - 12/20/07 07:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Any legitimate objections to Ron Paul?




He's a career politician, which itself is suspect.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7783734 - 12/20/07 10:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Nope. :sorry:






Yeah, I was well aware you wouldn't.

We speak different languages, you and I.


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Re: The Democrat With The Lazy Eye [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7784640 - 12/21/07 06:36 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe if you would discuss the points I've raised towards yours, we could really develop an understanding regarding that.


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