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OfflineLordIcer
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Looking for some clarifacation on lethal doses
    #459226 - 11/15/01 01:04 PM (15 years, 22 days ago)

I have tripped a few times, but I've always heard mixed opinions on the LD50 (lethal dose) of Psilocybin. I have read that a person's liver would shut down before the mushrooms actually killed them, but I have had people tell me it is possible to go into 'toxic shock' from the shrooms. So basically I'm just asking if there is a possible lethal dose related to Psilocybin. The reason I ask is I will be monitoring some first time trippers who don't really know what they're doing...and despite my strong advice against it they insist on consuming approx 5g of Cubensis each. It should be an interesting experience, to say the least.


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Re: Looking for some clarifacation on lethal doses [Re: LordIcer]
    #459234 - 11/15/01 01:16 PM (15 years, 22 days ago)

5 grams of cubensis is nowhere near the guestimated lethal dose of mushrooms.

Toxic shock from shrooms would be if you at poisonous mushrooms, not psilocybe cubensis.


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Re: Looking for some clarifacation on lethal doses [Re: LordIcer]
    #459238 - 11/15/01 01:25 PM (15 years, 22 days ago)

I don't think you could eat enough mushrooms in a sitting to kill yourself from the psilocybin/psilocin. Mushrooms are very safe when it comes down to the LD50. Got this quote from Erowid:

"According to Leo Hollister, Jonathon Ott, and John Allen, one would have to consume their body weight in fresh mushrooms or eat approximately 19 grams of the pure chemical substance to bring on death. As long as Psilocybin mushrooms are properly identified, poisoning is not a problem."

Hope that answers your concerns.


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Re: Looking for some clarifacation on lethal doses [Re: LordIcer]
    #459241 - 11/15/01 01:26 PM (15 years, 22 days ago)

Someone on hear said you would have to eat your weight, not sure about that, but overdosing on mushrooms has notr been a problem...


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Re: Looking for some clarifacation on lethal doses [Re: LordIcer]
    #459311 - 11/15/01 02:45 PM (15 years, 22 days ago)

Please come back and tell us how they were crying for there mommy and how they are born again christains when they are done, I can't wait to here how bad these dumb asses scare the shit out of themselfs.


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Re: Looking for some clarifacation on lethal doses [Re: Adom]
    #459352 - 11/15/01 03:32 PM (15 years, 22 days ago)

Hahahha Adom, you are right.

I was gonna say, wait until they take the 5g's, and then tell them it probably was a toxic dose. Then watch them freak!! That would be really wrong. It would teach the bastards to listen to you though :-)


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Re: Looking for some clarifacation on lethal doses [Re: MarleyBob]
    #459496 - 11/15/01 05:54 PM (15 years, 22 days ago)

I wonder what would happen if someone did actually eat almost 19grams of psilocybin/psilocin...Or if someone drank a glass of LSD.


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Re: Looking for some clarifacation on lethal doses [Re: Adom]
    #459506 - 11/15/01 06:04 PM (15 years, 22 days ago)

how much would you recommend for a first trip. Ecuador strain dried with a desicant? for someone who is about 5 foot 7 and is like 120 something? answer this question
Now if he wants a strong level 3 what do you think he should take? thanks


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Re: Looking for some clarifacation on lethal doses [Re: TeRzMaStA]
    #459536 - 11/15/01 06:30 PM (15 years, 22 days ago)

2-3 grams dried should be plenty. However, remember that everyone's tolernaces vary. But, going by the 120 lb point i would say about 2-2.5 grams dry should get ya ta level 3.


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Re: Looking for some clarifacation on lethal doses [Re: TeRzMaStA]
    #459537 - 11/15/01 06:32 PM (15 years, 22 days ago)

Eq's or any other P'C I would recommend a 2-2.5 gram dose, if you wanna go to a" level 3" I would say 2- 3.5grams depending on the strength of mushrooms, strenght varies big time..


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Re: Looking for some clarifacation on lethal doses [Re: Adom]
    #459554 - 11/15/01 06:52 PM (15 years, 22 days ago)

> Please come back and tell us how they were crying for there mommy and how they are born again christains when they are done, I can't wait to here how bad these dumb asses scare the shit out of themselfs

Yes, because all first timer's are scared shitless of psychedelic drugs.

You have made Kid's idiot list.

Because, you, are an idiot.


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Re: Looking for some clarifacation on lethal doses [Re: TeRzMaStA]
    #459821 - 11/15/01 11:04 PM (15 years, 22 days ago)

I say go all out you first time with an 1/8. I did it. Bad trips are rare on shrooms.


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Re: Looking for some clarifacation on lethal doses [Re: rice_cake]
    #462985 - 11/19/01 03:39 AM (15 years, 18 days ago)

For god's sakes, please don't start off with a whole eigth. People's bodies have different tolerances. Start off withsomething less and build up the dosage while still comfortable.


As for the original poster: Who is currently in possesion of the mushrooms? If it's you, how many times have theys seen them? If appropriate, you should think about giving them only part of their mushrooms, while not telling them anyhting. After listening to their comments after the trip, you should tell them how much you gave them.


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Re: Looking for some clarifacation on lethal doses [Re: Kid]
    #463398 - 11/19/01 02:42 PM (15 years, 18 days ago)

I was never scared I was suprised, big difference, you have been on my idiot list since the first day I scanned these boards.


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Re: Looking for some clarifacation on lethal doses [Re: Adom]
    #463443 - 11/19/01 03:26 PM (15 years, 18 days ago)

> I was never scared I was suprised

Well, very good. Then why would you assume that these people are going to be scared, or turn into born again christians?

> you have been on my idiot list since the first day I scanned these boards.

Thanks newbie.



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