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Invisiblerebelmoon
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pre-soaking grain made it sprout!
    #458163 - 11/14/01 10:44 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

stamets says that pre-soaking your rye grain for 24 hours will hatch endospores. it made my friends grain sprout after about 18hrs. is this bad? should my friend toss it out and go back to old methods??


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Re: pre-soaking grain made it sprout! [Re: rebelmoon]
    #458219 - 11/14/01 11:48 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Toss it. Try pre-cooking. Bring water to boil, pour in rye, simmer 45 mins, (stirrying occasionally) or until you see a kernel split open. Strain thoroughly. Then put in jars and PC.


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Re: pre-soaking grain made it sprout! [Re: rebelmoon]
    #458828 - 11/15/01 08:46 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I once left my grain for two weeks and it sprouted with lots of roots and leaves so I made a new batch but also sterilized the sprouts for comparison. The sprouts colonized quicker and did better than the fresh grain.


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Re: pre-soaking grain made it sprout! [Re: sylo]
    #458840 - 11/15/01 08:56 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

THAT SUCKS LOL GOOD FOR THE GARDEN THOUGH JK


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Invisiblerebelmoon
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Re: pre-soaking grain made it sprout! [Re: Mordor]
    #458865 - 11/15/01 09:22 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

but why did this happen? if it doesnt happen to stamets then why would it happen to anyone else?? aargh its so annoying.


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Re: pre-soaking grain made it sprout! [Re: rebelmoon]
    #460213 - 11/16/01 04:15 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Are you sure that it was 24 hours? I've always heard 12 hours or so is sufficient.


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OfflineDinoMyc
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Re: pre-soaking grain made it sprout! [Re: rebelmoon]
    #460274 - 11/16/01 05:54 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

try useing it anyway, comeon.. try something new (to you).. in many cases, presprouting your grain can result in better yeild/success..


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InvisibleTCatz
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Re: pre-soaking grain made it sprout! [Re: rebelmoon]
    #460287 - 11/16/01 06:10 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

the seeds were particularly fertile.....looks like its time to break out the ranch dressing rebelmoon


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Re: pre-soaking grain made it sprout! [Re: rebelmoon]
    #460310 - 11/16/01 06:53 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

> if it doesnt happen to stamets then why would it happen to anyone else??

It happened to me too. It happens if the temperature is fairly high.
I?d say: if you MUST presoak for 24 hours, put the jars in fridge after 12 hours, otherewise presoak only for 12 hours.


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OfflineTheReverend
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Re: pre-soaking grain made it sprout! [Re: rebelmoon]
    #460353 - 11/16/01 07:35 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I doesn't matter. If it starts to sprout, just use it. It'll work just as well.


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