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Offlinedattaswami
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What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them?
    #4450176 - 07/25/05 01:09 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Let Me answer your question straight with a simple example
You have caught a hot iron rod with your hand and you are weeping
You are asking Me to remove the heat from the rod and give you happiness
For this you are constantly praying the Lord to use His special power.
I have to laugh at this situation because the easiest solution is to remove
Your hand from the rod to be happy, which you are not doing at all
You cannot get rid of your attachment to the rod, but you pray the Lord
To cool the rod using His Maya, is this prayer justified in any way?

Why don?t you get detached from your family bonds and be happy?
The hand with which you have caught your family members is your mind
You detach your mind from the bonds of your family members
And be peaceful always and there is no need of praying the Lord for this
When the solution is in your hand why do you ask the Lord for it?
When the solution is out of your hands there may be justice in asking the Lord
In the first stage you detach your mind from them and be worry less
In course of time when your detachment by mind becomes complete
You will spontaneously leave your duties also and attain bliss

The detachment from the family comes by your attachment with the Lord
As the bond with the Lord becomes more and more strong, your family bonds
Become weaker and weaker and finally all the bonds disappear
In this state you are left over only with the bond with the Lord
This state is called ?Eka Bhakthih? in Gita or the single pointed devotion
Devotion means love and this is related to the plane of mind
As the faculty of intelligence becomes more and more sharp
By the knowledge preached by the Lord, the devotion to Lord

Becomes more and more strong, thus knowledge is acting as
Both fertilizer as well as pesticide on both the sides simultaneously
It acts as a fertilizer for the bond with the Lord, which is like a plant
The plant grows slowly and becomes a huge tree by this fertilizer
The family bonds are like the insects that attack this devotion plant
For those insects this divine knowledge acts as a pesticide also
The knowledge is also the generating factor like the water for the seed
Only by the knowledge of the Lord, the devotion is generated
Devotion is the love or attraction towards the Lord to attain Him
It ends in agony or Vedana as told by Ramanuja, thus knowledge is
The generating factor, the fertilizer and the pesticide simultaneously


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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: dattaswami]
    #4450316 - 07/25/05 01:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Suffering and despair and all that crap is just dirtiness in your brain.

You need to wash it.


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my wick will burn out.
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: dattaswami]
    #4450673 - 07/25/05 03:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Let Me answer your question straight...

Um, you are answering YOUR own question and attributing it to someone else. Talking to yourself is much different than communicating with others.

Try keeping a diary or personal log.


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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Swami]
    #4450722 - 07/25/05 04:00 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

only the sufferers suffer, and only the despaired feel despair.


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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: dattaswami]
    #4450820 - 07/25/05 04:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

No one can remove your misery without your consent.

You cannot wholeheartedly provide such consent until you yourself have become balanced for the misery that which you have inflicted upon others.

Forgiving yourself can be the hardest task.


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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: psyka]
    #4450841 - 07/25/05 04:20 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

psyka said:
Suffering and despair and all that crap is just dirtiness in your brain.

You need to wash it.





what if you don't have watter and soap?


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I command your very souls you unbelievers
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: dattaswami]
    #4451805 - 07/25/05 07:17 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The hand with which you have caught your family members is your mind

Eh, I use my right hand to catch my member...


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: dattaswami]
    #4451864 - 07/25/05 07:28 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Cool....we have a Guru in our midst!!!


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda


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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4451959 - 07/25/05 07:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The Shroomery isn't BIG enough for two Swamis. There is going to have to be a showdown!


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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Swami]
    #4452042 - 07/25/05 08:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Great! Go Swami! This guy is a waste of time, while you are only..... :grin: :heart:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


Edited by Icelander (07/25/05 08:29 PM)


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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Swami]
    #4452103 - 07/25/05 08:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

There is going to have to be a showdown!

I said throw down boy!


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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #4453182 - 07/26/05 01:01 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

""What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them?""

the cause.. :P (hahaha)

:smile:

Do not re-move misery, depresion and tension, moving only gets around, stop make them!

:crazy2:


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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #4453328 - 07/26/05 01:30 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I said throw down boy!

Wyatt Earp (Kurt Russell) to Billy Bob Thorton in "Tombstone?


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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Swami]
    #4453427 - 07/26/05 01:49 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

"I'm your huckleberry..."


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda


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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4453520 - 07/26/05 02:08 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

If you live in the real world there is going to be misery. If you achieve nirvana your on your own.

Doc was cooler than Earp anyway.


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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: LittleBen]
    #4455529 - 07/26/05 02:51 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Doc was cooler than Earp anyway.

I want to be an alcoholic "lunger" who looks like Morrison.  :crazy:


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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Swami]
    #4456883 - 07/26/05 08:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I love the scene when the gunslinger does his gun twirl in Docs face and Doc does it back using his little boose cup. My favorite scene from a western.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Icelander]
    #4457207 - 07/26/05 09:55 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

There is a deeper meaning in that scene than just the comedy I feel.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda


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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4457211 - 07/26/05 09:57 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I agree! What do you think that might be?


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Icelander]
    #4457221 - 07/26/05 09:59 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I think that doc had no ego to display, and nothing to prove.


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