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dattaswami
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What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them?
#4450176 - 07/25/05 11:09 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Let Me answer your question straight with a simple example You have caught a hot iron rod with your hand and you are weeping You are asking Me to remove the heat from the rod and give you happiness For this you are constantly praying the Lord to use His special power. I have to laugh at this situation because the easiest solution is to remove Your hand from the rod to be happy, which you are not doing at all You cannot get rid of your attachment to the rod, but you pray the Lord To cool the rod using His Maya, is this prayer justified in any way?
Why don?t you get detached from your family bonds and be happy? The hand with which you have caught your family members is your mind You detach your mind from the bonds of your family members And be peaceful always and there is no need of praying the Lord for this When the solution is in your hand why do you ask the Lord for it? When the solution is out of your hands there may be justice in asking the Lord In the first stage you detach your mind from them and be worry less In course of time when your detachment by mind becomes complete You will spontaneously leave your duties also and attain bliss
The detachment from the family comes by your attachment with the Lord As the bond with the Lord becomes more and more strong, your family bonds Become weaker and weaker and finally all the bonds disappear In this state you are left over only with the bond with the Lord This state is called ?Eka Bhakthih? in Gita or the single pointed devotion Devotion means love and this is related to the plane of mind As the faculty of intelligence becomes more and more sharp By the knowledge preached by the Lord, the devotion to Lord
Becomes more and more strong, thus knowledge is acting as Both fertilizer as well as pesticide on both the sides simultaneously It acts as a fertilizer for the bond with the Lord, which is like a plant The plant grows slowly and becomes a huge tree by this fertilizer The family bonds are like the insects that attack this devotion plant For those insects this divine knowledge acts as a pesticide also The knowledge is also the generating factor like the water for the seed Only by the knowledge of the Lord, the devotion is generated Devotion is the love or attraction towards the Lord to attain Him It ends in agony or Vedana as told by Ramanuja, thus knowledge is The generating factor, the fertilizer and the pesticide simultaneously
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psyka
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: dattaswami]
#4450316 - 07/25/05 11:47 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Suffering and despair and all that crap is just dirtiness in your brain.
You need to wash it.
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: dattaswami]
#4450673 - 07/25/05 01:50 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Let Me answer your question straight...
Um, you are answering YOUR own question and attributing it to someone else. Talking to yourself is much different than communicating with others.
Try keeping a diary or personal log.
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Swami]
#4450722 - 07/25/05 02:00 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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only the sufferers suffer, and only the despaired feel despair.
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: dattaswami]
#4450820 - 07/25/05 02:16 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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No one can remove your misery without your consent.
You cannot wholeheartedly provide such consent until you yourself have become balanced for the misery that which you have inflicted upon others.
Forgiving yourself can be the hardest task.
-------------------- Nos confido phasmatis occultus in vicis postulo nostrum tutela donatus futurus.
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: psyka]
#4450841 - 07/25/05 02:20 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
psyka said: Suffering and despair and all that crap is just dirtiness in your brain.
You need to wash it.
what if you don't have watter and soap?
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: dattaswami]
#4451805 - 07/25/05 05:17 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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The hand with which you have caught your family members is your mind
Eh, I use my right hand to catch my member...
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: dattaswami]
#4451864 - 07/25/05 05:28 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cool....we have a Guru in our midst!!!
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#4451959 - 07/25/05 05:54 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Shroomery isn't BIG enough for two Swamis. There is going to have to be a showdown!
-------------------- The proof is in the pudding.
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Swami]
#4452042 - 07/25/05 06:29 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Great! Go Swami! This guy is a waste of time, while you are only.....
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
Edited by Icelander (07/25/05 06:29 PM)
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Swami]
#4452103 - 07/25/05 06:50 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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There is going to have to be a showdown!
I said throw down boy!
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#4453182 - 07/25/05 11:01 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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""What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them?""
the cause.. :P (hahaha)
Do not re-move misery, depresion and tension, moving only gets around, stop make them!
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#4453328 - 07/25/05 11:30 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I said throw down boy!
Wyatt Earp (Kurt Russell) to Billy Bob Thorton in "Tombstone?
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Swami]
#4453427 - 07/25/05 11:49 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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"I'm your huckleberry..."
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#4453520 - 07/26/05 12:08 AM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you live in the real world there is going to be misery. If you achieve nirvana your on your own.
Doc was cooler than Earp anyway.
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: LittleBen]
#4455529 - 07/26/05 12:51 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Doc was cooler than Earp anyway.
I want to be an alcoholic "lunger" who looks like Morrison.
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Swami]
#4456883 - 07/26/05 06:33 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I love the scene when the gunslinger does his gun twirl in Docs face and Doc does it back using his little boose cup. My favorite scene from a western.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Icelander]
#4457207 - 07/26/05 07:55 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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There is a deeper meaning in that scene than just the comedy I feel.
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#4457211 - 07/26/05 07:57 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree! What do you think that might be?
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Icelander]
#4457221 - 07/26/05 07:59 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think that doc had no ego to display, and nothing to prove.
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#4457293 - 07/26/05 08:27 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes! and he was still trapped in his own hell of self hate. One can be far along the path in 5 areas and be still at square one in another. At least that's true of me.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#4457789 - 07/26/05 10:12 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think that doc had no ego to display, and nothing to prove.
He had already accepted his death and so was fearless and very dangerous.
-------------------- The proof is in the pudding.
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