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Re: Driving & Tripping [Re: Swami]
    #415701 - 10/06/01 12:41 PM (20 years, 25 days ago)

Driving while under the influence of any drug is a bad idea. I personally try to avoid it when ever possible. But I've driven tripping quite a few times and it's not that difficult, It just takes some extra concentration. I've only done this on lower level trips though. Driving stoned is absolutly cake for me. No problems what so ever. Driving drunk is a very bad idea but i've also found that it's not that difficult to stay focused enough to stay on the road. I don't advocate driving while under the influence but everyone has found themselves in that position in which they more or less had to drive while fucked up. It just takes some concentration and a little luck. hehe.

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Re: Driving & Tripping [Re: Floydian]
    #415796 - 10/06/01 03:23 PM (20 years, 25 days ago)

Actually no....I haven't ever found myself in the position where I had to drive fucked up.

I am smarter than that and think things through before I partake in any substance. If I know there is no other way for me to get home then for me to drive myself I pass on using anything.

Is it really all that hard to skip on night of being fucked up in order to not endager your own life and the lives of others? Are drugs really that important to you having a good time that you can't just skip them? If that is true then maybe you should re-evaluate your usage. Perhaps you should not be using at all.

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Re: Driving & Tripping [Re: Karen]
    #418916 - 10/09/01 12:33 AM (20 years, 23 days ago)

You can think things through as much as you want but that doesn't mean things will always go according to plan. Sometimes you just get stuck in a situation you hadn't expected that limits your options. And sometimes these situations can make it so driving intoxicated is a much better option than staying where you are.

"Is it really all that hard to skip on night of being fucked up in order to not endager your own life and the lives of others? Are drugs really that important to you having a good time that you can't just skip them? If that is true then maybe you should re-evaluate your usage. Perhaps you should not be using at all."

Your preaching to the choir here. And just because I've driven intoxicated a few times before doesn't mean I need to re-evaluate my drug usage.



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Re: Driving & Tripping [Re: stefan]
    #418941 - 10/09/01 12:58 AM (20 years, 23 days ago)


Why the fuck would you want to drive while tripping anyway? That's like tripping at work. Save your mushrooms for when you don't have any errands to do, f'r chrissakes!

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Re: Driving & Tripping [Re: makedrugsfree]
    #418984 - 10/09/01 01:35 AM (20 years, 23 days ago)

It is funny how people in our society always think they know their limits. I'm sure we wouldn't have any accidents if people really did

come on... i'm sure that if everyone did know their limits that accidents would be reduced, but some accidents are simply that... accidents.  what if your rear tire blew out and you went into a spin (which happened to my dad at 70mph and he totaled our mr2 turbo after slamming into the center divider)?

additionally, i don't think it's cool that you guys are bashing people who claim they do know their limits.  you tell these people that they shouldn't be driving under any circumstances, but i know that i feel comfortable driving under the influence many times and that my friends also put their trust in me to do so safely... my friends aren't dumb and they wouldn't let me drive or drive in the car with me if they thought they were in any danger.  i realize that drugs will affect your perception, but it is the degree that your perception is affected that is important.  if you had just had some stressful event in your life, your perception would also be affected... if you were in a rage - what about those people?  have you been really pissed off and gone a little faster than you should have..?  not saying that i vent my rage on the roadways, but i'm pretty sure most people have found themselves in a situation where they drive a little faster or just aren't paying much attention to the road because of some outside event in their lives... am i right?

anyways, my point is that i feel completely comfortable driving stoned... if i'm drunk every situation is unique and needs to be evaluated at that time (i will be the first to admit that if i drank too much then i won't drive- whose to say what's too much, right?... i'll tell you who: no one but yourself!  unless you're an idiot, you'll know whether or not you can drive... when in doubt, don't do it)... as far as tripping while driving, i've never done it and to be honest i don't think i ever would... it would be just too much stuff going on.  so anyway, don't be bashing on people who claim to know their limits, for all you know they do... of course i'm not nieve and i realize that many people may not know their limits and think it's okay to drive - and to them i say: "you stupid, stupid fuck" :wink:... okay that was a little harsh... but seriously - just think about it for a few minutes and make a rational decision.  as long as you truely feel comfortable, i don't see a problem with it... unless of course it's your first time, i wouldn't recommend takin the freeway the first time you drink and smoke... give it time and test it out, see how it feels - you'll know if you're in control.  be careful & safe :cool:

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Re: Driving & Tripping [Re: geokills]
    #419611 - 10/09/01 03:05 PM (20 years, 22 days ago)

<B>come on... i'm sure that if everyone did know their limits that accidents would be reduced, but some accidents are simply that... accidents. what if your rear tire blew out and you went into a spin (which happened to my dad at 70mph and he totaled our mr2 turbo after slamming into the center divider)? </B>

I was wrong to say "any" accidents. You are wrong to even bring that up since 90% of the accidents that happen are preventable. And we are specifically talking about intoxication. Even accidents that are the other driver's fault can often be avoided by a good driver.

I also disagree with most of the rest of what you said. But I don't have time right now, so maybe tomorrow I'll reply.

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Re: Driving & Tripping [Re: makedrugsfree]
    #419723 - 10/09/01 04:26 PM (20 years, 22 days ago)

I have three good friends who smoke a lot, and drive while stoned. ALL THREE of them have small accidents all the time. One of them managed to crash into the other one's car just besides him while they were parked. Iv'e been saying my last prayers while driving with the other them. The third one smashed the car of his parents totally, after he had several minor things happening to it.
Three people... All of them, think about that.
And may I add that I have driven while stoned, and I know I drove a lot worse than sober. Didn't have any accidents myself though.

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Re: Driving & Tripping [Re: makedrugsfree]
    #419881 - 10/09/01 07:01 PM (20 years, 22 days ago)

Regarding: Even accidents that are the other driver's fault can often be avoided by a good driver.
this is no doubt true, and i have avoided cars in front of me that have gone into a spin, etc... i know that your reaction time is reduced when under the influence... but it is the degree of fuckedupness if you will, that will be the factor in determining if you are safe to drive... point in case the whole issue of emotional stress that i brought up in a previous post.

I also disagree with most of the rest of what you said. But I don't have time right now, so maybe tomorrow I'll reply.
Well if you disagree, then back yourself up homie:wink:. i'd love to hear what you have to say!

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Re: Driving & Tripping [Re: geokills]
    #420398 - 10/10/01 02:49 AM (20 years, 22 days ago)

After re-reading your post I find that I don't totally disagree with you. I think you deffinitly add to this post.

I agree that there are many degrees to how much a person's driving ability is interfered with. There are also a great deal of things that effect your ability to drive safely, including emotions, sleep, and other distractions. It would be be an error on my part to say that you shouldn't drive doing this or that, because it may affect you no more than talking on a cell phone would someone else. I do think that you are dead wrong about "knowing your limits."

<B>whose to say what's too much, right?... i'll tell you who: no one but yourself! unless you're an idiot, you'll know whether or not you can drive... when in doubt, don't do it</B>

This is my main opinion about the subject:
It is very hard to tell what degree you are affected by something. That was why I talked about the training video. I think too many people are driving under risk to us all "because they know their limits." Sure there are degrees of everything. Some drugs affect you more than others. Caffeine and other common drugs can also affect your driving. So it is left up to the driver to know when to not drive. I think that you must go further than trusting your instincts though, and use some more common sense. After 6 or 7 drinks you shouldn't trust your intincts, you should make it a rule not to drive. You probably are smart enough to link the two and "trust you intincts," but many people are not. That is why there are DUI laws in the first place. I hope you are not in favor of legalizing drinking and driving, because it takes away our right to make our own judgments about the matter.

Enough for now, my head hurts from thinking so hard.



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Re: Driving & Tripping [Re: makedrugsfree]
    #420978 - 10/10/01 05:34 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

fair enough... and no, i am not in favor of legalizing drinking and driving - that would be insane :shocked:

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Re: Driving & Tripping [Re: geokills]
    #426421 - 10/15/01 04:41 PM (20 years, 16 days ago)

Swami should be a fucken dare counsler or some shit.


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Re: Driving & Tripping [Re: Swami]
    #427888 - 10/16/01 11:34 PM (20 years, 15 days ago)

I drived stoned continually. I have never had an accident while stoned (had one while sober, but not my fault).

I find that Cannabis does not impair my motor skills at all. Even psychedelic drugs will not impair motor skills as much as alcohol does. I dislike any sort of driving while tripping, though.

All in all, when I'm stoned, I driver slower, more carefully, and I double-check everything before I do it. I'm not saying I'm a better driver, but I am much more cautious. (A little paranoia is healthy).


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