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OfflineOldWoodSpecter
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been to a funeral today
    #4249776 - 06/02/05 09:36 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

..to a little town in a more rural part of the country where people still cherish tradition a lot..

..and have seen a lot of stupid, even unhealthy traditions...

first people prepared some "holy watter" in a plastic beer bottle (!!)
and put it in a glass and a put a branch of pinewood in it, so everyone can sprinkle some of it on the deaseased

then of course everyone had to shake hands to say they are sorry

then when the cascet was placed in the ground, everyne took at little piece of dirt and throw it in (also tradition)

then later on everyone who is invited can go to the house of the family on some kind of diner

and guess what? No washing hands. On the entrance to the house, they put a bucket or something similar filled with watter, and everyone has to "wash" their hands in it, but not dry them (also tradition)

so first people touch the deseased, then 30 of them shake hands (some of them dirty country people who have dirt under their nails  :grin: )
then everyone touches dirt from a grave where two people have already been put in years ago, and then they all wash hands in the same  couple of liters of watter, and don't even dry their hands

oh, yea, and they leave one place (with a plate) at the diner table for the dead person

Now that is a lot of silly, and even unhealthy tradition


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Re: been to a funeral today [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4249958 - 06/02/05 10:13 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

Sounds scary from a health standpoint at least. I might consider skipping the next funeral. :grin:


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Re: been to a funeral today [Re: Icelander]
    #4250025 - 06/02/05 10:32 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

Who are you to criticize this towns tradition?


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Re: been to a funeral today [Re: jbird21]
    #4250075 - 06/02/05 10:46 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

I am me, and I have an opinion. That's why he shared this, so we could comment on it. If you can't handle that don't read my posts. :mushroom2:


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Re: been to a funeral today [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4250508 - 06/03/05 12:29 AM (12 years, 28 days ago)

Dirt is dirt, and you will be too.
What gives you authority to think negatively on certain a cultures traditions.
Despite the average American eating two pounds of dirt a year, this small factor will cause you to question the proceedings?
Did it ever occur to you WHY these people were doing these rites of passage?
I only hope people care enough when I die to do the same.


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Re: been to a funeral today [Re: flowstone]
    #4250575 - 06/03/05 12:44 AM (12 years, 28 days ago)

What gives you authority to think negatively on certain a cultures traditions.
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Everyone has the athority to think any way they please about any topic. Just like you have. If you don't like how he thinks you don't have to believe it. But don't tell people what they can or can't think.  :thumbdown: :mushroom2:


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Re: been to a funeral today [Re: flowstone]
    #4250796 - 06/03/05 01:39 AM (12 years, 28 days ago)

What gives you authority to think negatively on certain a cultures traditions.

The Fore are a highland people of Papua New Guinea. One of their 'traditions' involved the ritual cannibalism of their dead, in particular, the eating of the brain.

When a disease called Kuru (a prion disease like Mad Cow) killed the first member of their society around 1900, it quickly spread through cannibalism. Kuru decimated the Fore until the cause was discovered in the 70s.

Ritualistic cannibalism is more severe than everyone washing their hands in the same dirty water before eating dinner, but both practices are worthy of criticism, IMO.  :syringe:


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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: been to a funeral today [Re: flowstone]
    #4251424 - 06/03/05 07:56 AM (12 years, 28 days ago)

Must I say why we burry our dead in the first place? It's not because of smell. It's because they are nests of all kinds of bacteria that can cause disease. In this specific case, there were no problems because the lasf body had been burried years and years ago and the grave is no longer a health hazard, so the dirt is pretty much harmles. But there are case where the grave is opened and another body placed in a lot smaller intervals.

And as for washing hands, where do I start with the list of deseases you can cary on from washing hands in the same buchet of watter.


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Re: been to a funeral today [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4251543 - 06/03/05 09:49 AM (12 years, 27 days ago)

living we are part of the biosphere and are nourished by the living things and dying things, dead we are nutrient for the bioshpere. burial is good for restoring the organic compounds (but not with a lead lined casket or anything of the sort).

this tradition seems to make a connection with the dead person symbolically (the dish and fork) and by using water(flowing life) and earth(solid rest) - elementally.

there is very little danger in it for these people, though a visitor's antibodies might not be up to all the variety of contagia, the mortal danger issue is exactly what is being celebrated.

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Re: been to a funeral today [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4251559 - 06/03/05 09:59 AM (12 years, 27 days ago)

disease is overrated.


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Re: been to a funeral today [Re: moog]
    #4251564 - 06/03/05 10:01 AM (12 years, 27 days ago)

ACHOOOOO!

Pardon me.

[sniff]


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: been to a funeral today [Re: moog]
    #4251614 - 06/03/05 10:31 AM (12 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

moog said:
disease is overrated.




"survival is overrated"? :bye:


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