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Re: Choices-Inspirational [Re: Frog]
#4212089 - 05/23/05 09:33 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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It wasn't meant to say he survived because of a belief.
The whole story is just a reminder of the power of choice and for us to use it to serve us.
Just like you chose to respond/react to the story.
How often do we reflect on how our choices of response or reaction to life's events are serving us in our highest good and best interest or goals?
How many really even think about it?
-------------------- Ahuwale ka nane huna.
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Re: Choices-Inspirational [Re: Swami]
#4212107 - 05/23/05 09:36 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have heard this discussion often. I see your point Swami and it's not dumb of course. And I have seen people do amazing things with attitude. The only conclusion I have been able to make, is that there is an interplay going on here. Which comes first, the chicken or the egg. Does does thinking depressed thoughts alter chemical makeup in the brain/body or does the chemical change turn the mood toward depression. Both. I don't know how else to explain this phenominon called reality. We may create our collective reality in concert with everything else surrounding us, but we cannot create the total reality we and others experience. We may be co-creators. Seperate parts of the whole. Each of us a part, with a certain amount of ability to alter the collective reality. We can effect some things to some extent with our thoughts, intent, will, mood ect, and never have total control of collective reality. There really are too many unknowns to have the answer. That's true of so many of the questions we ask here.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Not many of us stop to reflect on our choices, and why we made them. I totally agree on the power of choice. I wouldn't be here today, otherwise.
However, I was discussing this very topic with someone just yesterday.
If you believe that there are "right"choices, how can you believe in free will?
I personally believe that everything is lined up out there in the cosmic universe, we have yet to choose.
-------------------- The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire. -Teilard
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Re: Choices-Inspirational [Re: Frog]
#4212307 - 05/23/05 10:10 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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"right" choices are subjective and ultimately...... are just choices. We prescribe the labels of right and wrong to choices based on what serves of in our interests and goals. Just look at this board, what is labeled "right" certainly isn't universal.
That said, all that is being said, is that you can use the power of choice to serve you. You have already been doing it subconsciously most of the time. The idea is to become more conscious of our choice making regarding response's and reactions to events throughout the day.
Of course we do not have control over all of the events yet or else we would be lucid living. We do have control over our responses and reactions and attitudes through the power of choice. That is what free will is all about........the freedom to choose for yourself.
A lot of what may be "right" for you won't be for me and vise versa. That word isn't relevant here. What serves us based on our interests and goals is more accurate regarding what we base choices on when decision making.
There is a lot of power being offered through this wisdom and one can choose to use it or loose it.
The story is focusing on the "inner reality that we do have control over"
I don't believe in absolute "right" choices. I believe in choices and that even labels put on them are the result of choices. We first have to choose a label of right before we can even make a "right choice out of a choice." That's how free will works. We even get to choose what we make right and wrong.
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"A lot of what may be "right" for you won't be for me and vise versa. That word isn't relevant here. What serves us based on our interests and goals is more accurate regarding what we base choices on when decision making."
Agreed. Everyone is here for different reasons. I have made choices based on what I believe is the purpose for my life.
I think someone has called this alternative to free will or predeterminism, "free choice."
-------------------- The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire. -Teilard
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Re: Choices-Inspirational [Re: Swami]
#4215661 - 05/24/05 06:23 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ones state of mind can change the chemical makeup of your body. Certain chemical changes are the reason for emotional change, but before the hormone or neurotransmitter was secreted a choice was made to experience that emotion. One's emotions are completely under your own control. As the original story stressed...act don't react. Maintaining an upright posture, breathing slowly and deeply, and donning a positive facial expression can enforce a positive action in many unpleasant circumstances. Our body's physical position and our breathing are tools that can influence our emotional state greatly. As a child you were unintentionally programmed by those around you. This programming is just a set of learned reactions....this is not who you are.
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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How can I "choose" to trigger hair regrowth?
*Swami closes eyes and slows breathing while visualizing Black Panther Afros, wooly mammoths, Burt Reynolds chest and shag carpeting*
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Re: Choices-Inspirational [Re: Swami]
#4215789 - 05/24/05 06:50 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think this brings up a good point. How we visualize may be important for results. I would visualize blood flowing to my scalp, as I know that that may have an effect on hair growth. I think people have been able to do this ie, biofeedback.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Choices-Inspirational [Re: Swami]
#4215946 - 05/24/05 07:31 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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"How can I "choose" to trigger hair regrowth?" Get a rogainne perscription for one. If you claim that you are helpless to choose your emotional state how can you gain the focus to excel at anything. I understand you are a good raquetball player. You say that training and discipline are valuable tools for success in this. Most training and discipline is geared towards gaining emotional control in order to remain focused. To deny this is futile. In athletics to lose one's temper is often to lose the game. This is common knowledge.
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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