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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Smallworlds]
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naw, threatening to revoke my sponsorship, that would be a seriously low-class move...


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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: MikeOLogical]
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even threatening to do that... they could just take your sponsorship  away.



after getting high and writing a few scripts, it came to me that they can just ban anyone for any reason.  This is not a democracy, this is a privately owned website.  they can bring the ban hammer on to anyone who voices a complaint.

but what stops them?

:shrug:


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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Jim]
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what stops them is they don't wish to have any major disruptions. (such as we have seen today with hanky's banning)

But what they should consider is that if they ran "their" website in a less tyrannical way, there would be far fewer such disruptions.

perma-bans should be for legal reasons only. Regular/less-serious violations should have a 1-2 week ban cap on them.

that's like getting the death penalty for shitting on the sidewalk.


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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Grizz]
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grizz said:
Ok and when I find a moderator not banning someone for making puppets - like here for example:

Prisoner#1 said:
Tao said:
SuperBlunt?



yes.

Users associated with SuperMario:

1. PlatinumCaps logged in 01/03.03:03
2. SuperMario logged in 04/05.10:32



http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post4126691

What should I do then Anno?



should we ban all puppet accounts?

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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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NO!
I'm still very pissed at whoever banned Elmo.


oh, and yeah, free hanky.


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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: MikeOLogical]
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If you revoked your sponsorship over this, I'd put your banner as my sig. Same goes for any of the sponsors. I'm sure a lot of other users would do the same.

(I'd start actually posting too)


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what's with neocons and the word 'ilk'?

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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Anno]
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I normally try to stay out of these kinds of things, but I do think the banning was a bit of an over-reaction. Granted I don't know the whole story, there could be more to both sides, but from what I saw, it did seem like a bit of an overreaction.

Of all the offenses he could have committed, this is relatively minor, and even if it happened a number of times, he's a valuable member of the community...I would think no more than a few week ban would be logical.

Here's a thought: put it to a vote, see what the general consensus is. I for one would be willing to go along with whatever the majority votes for.

Anyways, :peace: and :mushroom2: to all


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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Anno]
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Anno said:
>Perma ban? Come on. Explain to me why, mod(s).

There is a system about how long the ban is.

Fist time: Warning

Second time: A few days ban.

Third time: 14 days ban.

Last time: permanent



That system sucks. It should be and could be more like this..

Fist time: Warning

Second time: A few days ban.

Third and each subsequent time: 14 days ban.

With permanant bans given to those who deal drugs on the server, hack the server, or commit other serious violations meaning violations that could ammount to actual harm to the website or its members.

Wouldn't that be a much more enlightened sort of policy?

All you are doing with the "system"  :thumbdown: you have now is showing that magic mushrooms havent helped the administration here any.


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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: dblaney]
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Yea i mean hanky's humor was a bit abrasive, but hes still the loveable little scamp of otd.

Not being much of an otder my self but frequenting their alot. I have to say is. FREE HANKY!!!! ATTICA ATTICA!!! FREE HANKY!!!

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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
should we ban all puppet accounts?



You're a moderator and you don't know that puppets aren't allowed???!!

Incredible.

Na, just keep on banning just the ones you don't like I guess...


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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Smallworlds]
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Ever heard of a grow puppet? Or identity death? Puppets are allowed more than you think.


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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Rose]
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Well, I'm sure pris wasn't asking if he should go delete all the grow puppets.

The main issue I have is with the perma-ban thing for relatively minor/trivial violations.

Of course, no-one should be allowed to run around here with 8465285 identities either.


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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Smallworlds]
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Smallworlds said:
Prisoner#1 said:
should we ban all puppet accounts?



You're a moderator and you don't know that puppets aren't allowed???!!
Incredible.
Na, just keep on banning just the ones you don't like I guess...




well here's the issue with that, gum_clinic/loki/paid/ganga, you_suck, Geordi
and many of the other people that post here will then be banned, half the
people I have banned were people that I like, I've actualy resisted banning
several that I dont like on may occasions just because of the drama that I
know will be started, "you didnt like XXX so you banned him".

I hold some people to a little higher standard than others, those that express
that they dont like me I expect certain behaviors out of, those that claim
to be my friend I expect better from, if they have any respect for me then
they would not put me in the position where I felt a ban was in order.

Hanky has always shown me respect and a great deal of consideration, you guys
dont have a clue how much it does bother me to ban him for something that I
dont see as being offensive, unfortunately other do see it as such and in light
of that fact, I'm obligated to handle it out of respect for those users.

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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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do you believe he should have been banned permanantly? who made the decision to ban him permanantly? was it anno, or an admin vote, or who?


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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Smallworlds]
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It's such a fucking joke that he is banned indefinitely. As was stated earlier, permabans should be reserved for those who actually harm the site.

A permaban for something as petty as his actions were is absurd. There's absolutely no logic behind it.

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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Redstorm]
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Especially when you consider he did not post scat and that he genuinely didn't think the chicken picture was a bannable offense considering some of the other OTD content.


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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Grizz]
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It doesn't matter anyways. No matter the amount of times a user is banned for scat, it should never reach a permabanned.

The admins system of banning is fucked b/c it doesn't take the triviality offense into account.

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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Redstorm]
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like I said, it's like getting the death penalty for shitting on the sidewalk


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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Smallworlds]
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Smallworlds said:
do you believe he should have been banned permanantly?



I believe that we should all live in a society without rules and laws,
a self governing society, unfortunately some people are unable to govern
themselves and ruin it for other people.

Quote:
who made the decision to ban him permanantly? was it anno, or an admin vote, or who?



the administrators, they set guidelines on disciplineary actions, the guidelines
aer simply being followed, the 'indefinate ban' is not necisarily permanent,
much of it depends on hanky and the rest will lay on our shoulders, how we
behave in this situation will have some bearing in the decision making, it
works the same way with rules, they dont start making rules unless someone
decide to do something thats quite disrespectful, threats are a prime example
if no one had ever made one, the rule wouldnt be in place.

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Re: Hankys ban? [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
It's such a fucking joke that he is banned indefinitely. As was stated earlier, permabans should be reserved for those who actually harm the site.




how many times do you have to tell a kid no for the same thing before you have
to pop them on the butt to get their attention, 'indefinite' has gotten everyones attention

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