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Offlinetomk
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Re: rap music [Re: kake]
    #4118815 - 05/01/05 03:31 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know the old school shit because I only heard what my druggie friends told me I would like.

The same people who say hip hop sucks today are the same people who were attacking Jazz 70 years ago.  :mad:  Hip-hop music is here to stay.  Because it allows more ideas then regular lyrics, it allows a lot of creativity.  Because it is really innovative, it allows bridges between several different art forms, like poetry and music, drumming and spoken word, stream of consciousness and sound, that normal lyrics don't cover.  This expands the amount of ground a creative artist can cover.  :thumbup: 

Yeah, a lot of rap music is really really bad.  A lot of any genre is really really bad.  So, rather then get stuck in one genre, where you are gaurenteed to get some shit, you take the best stuff from each genre, and get only good music.  There is good rap music. 

The trick is to find the guys in each genre who do a lot of psychedelics.  These guys are gonna be the good ones.  In rap, psychedelics are uncommon, so you have to go underground to get the guys into psychedelics.  They are way good.

Some not mentioned:

Eyedea and Abilities (start by d/l 'Even Shadows Have Shadows' and then get the Oliver Hart Album The many faces of Oliver Hart)
Aesop Rock (start by D/l "The greatest Pac-Man Victory in History", his tribute to LSD, and proceed to Float or Labor days)
El-P (Direct intellectual link between hip-hop and jazz, great stuff)
Mr. Lif (good politics)

I would have to say Aesop Rock is the best one I have heard.  Some people say his stuff doesn't really count as rap, because it's so impressionistic and dadist and complex.  It's good though.  Get some.


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OfflineBrAiN
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Re: rap music [Re: Vvellum]
    #4119180 - 05/01/05 05:08 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

bi0 said:
my favorite hiphop album of all time is the Black Star album. here is the info: http://www.discogs.com/release/119096

go find it
listen
and you'll know.




amen.. black star rules

I love the song, respiration... its fuckin poetry


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Re: rap music [Re: BrAiN]
    #4119824 - 05/01/05 07:44 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Thieves In The Night is my favorite :thumbup:


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Re: rap music [Re: Vvellum]
    #4123488 - 05/02/05 03:26 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Thieves in the Night is a good song :smile:


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Re: rap music [Re: 0toxic0]
    #4126310 - 05/03/05 02:46 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

50 CENT!!!!!!!....sigh.

Dose One (schitzo penetratin through darkness type shit)
ShapeShifterS (LA psy-space funky shit)
Genelec & Memphis Reignz (moltov cocktail shit)
M.I.A. (shri-lankan female mc)
Meaty Ogre (chicago instrumentalyst with good mcs)
Mel Gibson & The Pants (outkast meets radiohead)
Busdriver (off-thewall wordplay)
Abstract Rude (melodica)
Aceyalone (classic intellegent)
Sole (the revolutionary evolutionist, kinda angry)
Themselves (Dose One & Jel, stupendous schitzo)
Why? (anticon indie-rapper)
Angles With Dirty Faces (simple funky shit)
Alias (intake ambiance)
Awol One (drunkard rhymstyle)
Black Star (mos def & talib)
Circus (shapeshifter, nuts)
Cosmocean (liquid ocean cosmis)
Diplo (newyorker newstyle)
Tribe Called Quest (classssicc)
Ellay Khule (quasi-gangsta with hidden messages)
Illogic (celestial)
Denizen Kane (chicagian, down with meaty ogre)
Leaders of the New School (old busta rhymes, his first group)
Orko (psychadelic post-apocalyptic drumnbassey subwoofer shit)
Odessa Kane (similar vein as Orko)
Qwel (crazy wordplay, chi-town mc)
Rob Sonic (funky party tracks)
Restiform bodies (nerd rap at its most direct incarnation)


if ya cant find some good stuff in here, i pity your music taste. this is leaving out all the awesome purely instrumental stuff too. hope ya enjoy


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Re: rap music [Re: KackleDude]
    #4126482 - 05/03/05 04:34 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

i cannot believe that i'm in the shroomery and not one person contributing to this thread has mentioned DILATED PEOPLES!


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My brother, like slander and pain
Amaze you? Consider the heart
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OfflineFleaAccela
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Re: rap music [Re: batou]
    #4131575 - 05/04/05 09:37 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

i dunno what to even post in this thread


not everyone can relate to each and every single piece of art laid on the table. some people think pollock is a genius while others think he's a phony and a piece of shit. some people think rembrant is fantastic while others think he's fucking boring and noncreative. some people think escher is on another level while others simply say its all technical drawing and nothing more. needless to say, theyre all on a different format, no?

people have different tastes. some people dont like certain things, some do. i'd have to say i disagee with alot of the posts in this thread on both sides. there are about a billion arguments i could go either way about, pro and anti-"rap". however, i could write an entire book about this shit and don't even wanna go into it. there's so much to cover.


you can't hate on those who have disdain for our beloved artform. it's most likely people who dont appreciate it haven't experienced the true essence of hiphop. when they think hiphop, they probally think of the SHIT they see on television.

true artists will always touch us through music, no matter what the genre is.


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