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Re: rap music [Re: 0toxic0]
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Nope, xept rahzel, hees cool, not really rap. I prefere something with "music" in it. Anyone can rap to a beat. It takes REAL talent to write music. At least good music.  :grin: 


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Re: rap music [Re: Grovesk8ter]
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Jurassic 5

I doubt you'll be dissapointed :smile:


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Re: rap music [Re: ekomstop]
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Ya, i cant belive i forgot. Jurrasic 5 is some dope shit. Actually all underground is good!


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Re: rap music [Re: Grovesk8ter]
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yup jurrasic 5 for starters. K'os is another good one he actually raps about very spirtual things cosmic stuff. actually ive only heard one song of his but it had all those things lots of political stuff.

youre blind from watching that garbage
K'os

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Re: rap music [Re: buckwheat]
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Binary Star


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Re: rap music [Re: 0toxic0]
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(Cue a flood of "Listen to Jurassic 5, 'cause they
don't talk about guns" responses from a bunch of
people who don't actually like hip-hop and also
hate fun.)

Twenty tracks I love right now:

20. G-Unit - 'Clue N 50'
19. UGK - 'Dirty Money'
18. Pastor Troy - 'This Tha City'
17. Talib Kweli ft. Busta and Jay-Z - 'Get By (Remix)'
16. Sharkie Major - 'This Ain't a Game'
15. 50 Cent ft. Bun B - 'As the World Turns'
14. Roscoe P. Coldchain - 'Mask N Glove Style'
13. Styles ft. M.O.P. - 'Ya'll Don't Wanna'
12. Mack 10 - 'Mathematics'
11. Jin - 'Asian Girls'
10. 50 Cent - '50 Shot Ya'
9. Freeway ft. Nate Dogg - 'All My Life'
8. M.O.P. ft. Lord Have Mercy - 'Home Sweet Home'
7. ESG and Slim Thug - 'I'm the Boss'
6. T.I. - '24s'
5. Three Six Mafia ft. Lil Flip - 'Rainbow Colors'
4. Ja Rule, Ashanti, Vita, Charli Baltimore - 'Down 4 U'
3. Jay-Z - 'Only a Customer'
2. Nas - 'Purple'
1. David Banner ft. Bonecrusher and Pastor Troy - 'Fuck 'Em'

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Re: rap music [Re: bivalve]
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i just dont like rap music at all. i used to like it a bit but i absolutely hate it. the only decent rap is like DEL or gangstarr. but i dont even listen to rap much so who cares :laugh:

go iron maiden!!!!!


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Re: rap music [Re: 0toxic0]
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jedi mind tricks, swollen members..  altho technically i think jedi is hip-hop..
but it is guaranteed to blow your mind, or your money back.. :eyemouth:


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Re: rap music [Re: starseed]
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yea i hate most rap,k os and DEL r good tho but everything that bivalve mentioned i hate esp 50 cent! fuck him!


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Re: rap music [Re: 0toxic0]
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ever heard Outkast? you might like them...
i always tell people to listen to Kool Keith (AKA Dr. Octagon, Dr. Doom, Black Elvis) mainly because he's unlike any other rapper.
check out Del the Funky Homosapien and Gang Starr as shr00m said..
Dead Prez is great IMO... also Mr. Lif.
Check out Aceyalone for sure, i think you'll really like him.
good luck in your search

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Re: rap music [Re: Clean]
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don't forget De La Soul's 3 Feet high and Rising - a must listen for anyone who wants to experience "good rap".

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Re: rap music [Re: soulflyer]
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Respond:

The best rap music is the kind that doesn't
make me feel guilty about being middle class
or put me in touch with the middle of my body.

This statement describes my feelings about rap
music: a) very accurately b) somewhat accurately.


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Re: rap music [Re: bivalve]
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mos def/talib kweli, quasimoto, declaime, cunninlynguists, ugly duckling, souls of mischief, roots manuva, tommy tee, rahzel, cypress hill

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Re: rap music [Re: Grovesk8ter]
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Quote:
Actually all underground is good!



So was 50 Cent good a year ago, but not good now?





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Re: rap music [Re: bivalve]
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bivalve said:
Twenty tracks I love right now:

20. G-Unit - 'Clue N 50'


16. Sharkie Major - 'This Ain't a Game'
15. 50 Cent ft. Bun B - 'As the World Turns'
11. Jin - 'Asian Girls'
10. 50 Cent - '50 Shot Ya'



yea, all those songs suck...

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Re: rap music [Re: domite]
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You've heard 'This Ain't a Game'? I'd like
to hear your thoughts on it. Why don't you
like it?

He's probably the best UK garage MC I've
ever heard. (If you can even call it garage
now! It's not even garage rap, really. But,
whatever they call it.) The beat sounds kind
of like the build-up parts in 'One Mic' and
it's got a new kind of rainy, sad, Nas-y New
York feeling that I've never heard in stuff
from London.

I hated a lot of the Dizzee Rascal album totally
because of the production. It's bad but I'd
love to hear him over more hip-hop beats like
'This Ain't a Game.' (There's a mixtape track
where he does a freestyle on the 'What We Do'
beat but I can't find it anywhere!)

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Re: rap music [Re: bivalve]
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hmm, you did not flame me...  :ooo:

  I actually mistook the song, but I have heard sharkie major before. For me it was at the level of "oh yea, he can rap" but nothing I was really into. For me, rap has to sound new, becuase it (almost always) is musically simple, so people that do something fresh and try to have their own sound are the ones who stand out to me... This results in alot of people hating my tastes in rap, becuase my interests dont follow any kind of logic in terms of "type" as in "oh, I like underground rap becuase it makes my feel cool and edgy, but I really prefer linkin park" or whatever... 

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Re: rap music [Re: domite]
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Do you think the mainstream has the freshness
right now or not?

A lot of more experimental underground stuff, like,
stuff beyond just the Atmosphere/Slug/Aesop Rock
stuff, the really noisy, bizarre stuff. Like, um,
Boom Bip, maybe. It sounds experimental but all
of the funny-sound-ness is just being stolen
from IDM and it's hip-hop because someone mumbled
stuff over it. And it's unpleasant to listen to
and you can't dance to it.

On another thread I said I liked mainstream
hip-hop because of innovation + when I listen to
it and enjoy it I know that lots of other people
are getting enjoyment from it + the actual emotion
thing. I think I picked 'Grindin'' as the example
of that, all three things.

I could find songs that sound weirder and more
musically complex than 'Down 4 U' but there are
no underground rap songs that have the same
beauty. There's no Ashanti! There's no psychedelic,
wavy, melancholy Irv Gotti production!

I'm not even making a point!

I think my point is that freshness isn't everything
and Ashanti is awesome and moves me. And David
Banner and Pastor Troy freak me out, so bombast
can trump freshness, too.

I was just listing songs I liked, not songs that
I thought were some special thing, I guess.

And I think I had a point that was like, There
are good kinds of experimentation and bad and
something can sound fresh but bad but freshness
plus the other things mainstream rap has equals
it's good.

None of the points are very clear.

Make a list of twenty tracks you love right now.

I know you like 'Hey Ya'! I was going to put
that on my list.


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Re: rap music [Re: bivalve]
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Cypress Hill are coooooool :laugh: Only rap band I like.


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Re: rap music [Re: Grovesk8ter]
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Rap isn't like other music cos it's got rapping in it, and that's the main feature. Hence the name rap. Listen to the rapping, not the music, and you might be more impressed.

For me, nobody beats Tribe Called Quest.


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Re: rap music [Re: bivalve]
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oh, there is definetly some creativity in the mainstream, but I turned off the radio a while ago becuase i was sick of hearing only Dr. Dre/swizz beats/whoever does the Roc's production

but some popular rap I can definetly appreciate...

as for my list, do you mean new songs? Becuase I am kinda slow on the uptake as far as whats cool goes, and i rarely hear whats on the radio.

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Re: rap music [Re: domite]
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well, ill try to put as many new songs as possible...

(not in order)

1) "Batman and robin" -snoop dogg
2) that other snoop song where he repeats "do you wnat to smoke with me" (i just turned on the radio)
3) D block anthem -d block
4) that LOX freestyle that they used to play alot on the Funk Flex show
5) Hey ya - OutKast
6) ghettomusic- OutKast
7) definition -talib qweli (hell, the whole blackstar CD, and while were at it, almost all of reflection eternal)
8) still - talib qweli / common / gangstarr (also not new, but amazing)
9) gun music -talib qweli
10) hell yea -dead prez (all of lets get free too)
11) walk like a warrior -dead prez
12) thats war-dead prez
13) the 6th sense -common
14) questions -common/ mos def
15) A Song fo assata -common
16) the whole "violent by design" Cd by jedi mind tricks
17) New World Water -mos def
18) Miss fat booty - mos def
19) Cot' damn -clipse/Ab liva
20) well for space resons, ill just say Dr. Octagon, Dr. Doom and three six mafia...

Edit: dammit, so few of these are new, really...

Edited by domite (09/22/03 02:52 PM)

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Re: rap music [Re: domite]
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KRS-ONE, Rakim, J-Ru the Damager, The Realist Individuals


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Post deleted. Reason for deletion: Confidential.

Edited by Wa7sum (10/03/07 11:42 AM)

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Re: rap music [Re: Hefex78]
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Buck 65 is cool, I don't think anyone's mentioned that yet.



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Re: rap music [Re: domite]
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all rap supporters should get a smack in the face. rap sucks. rap isnt music. rap doesnt take skill, it takes money, attitude, and the ability to wave your hands. you cant spell crap without rap. dont listen to rap, listen to something artful that takes skill to make.


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Re: rap music [Re: abhi]
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rap music takes talent to do. End of story. Psychopsilocybin is a complete moron and should have his opinion rights revoked. When you start writing rhymes and making beats and getting somewhere with it. You obviously don't know anything about hiphop or rap music to say that all you need is money and attitude. EVer heard Dead Prez? Blackalcious? Talib Kwali? Mos Def? Tech n9ne? Any of the older Outkast stuff? No, you haven't. GO back to your suburb and listen to your techno or nu metal or w/e the hell it is you like.


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Re: rap music [Re: abhi]
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Quote:
rap sucks. rap isnt music. rap doesnt take skill, it takes money, attitude, and the ability to wave your hands. you cant spell crap without rap. dont listen to rap, listen to something artful that takes skill to make.

You've just demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge of both rap and music in general.

I can't understand people who make such idiotic sweeping statements. How can you dismiss a genre that you clearly know little about and have had little experience of?

In short: you suck.


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Re: rap music [Re: 0toxic0]
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Twista, tech n9ne, older twiztid, cypress hill, mr lif


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Re: rap music [Re: deltron]
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If you're gonna get into rap music, start with the basics, the shit from back in the day that made it really popular. Go for the old school gangsta shit: Public Enemy, NWA, EZ-E, Snoop Dogg, Dr Dre, Tupac, Biggie, Wu-Tang and all the satellites and solo projects therof, 666 Mafia, De la Soul, all that underground new york shit, anything from new york is usually good, especially 90's era.

Then you got your doctor octagon, Cypress Hill, and all the jungle/DNB/triphop DJs and mcs...

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Re: rap music [Re: DoctorJ]
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Jay-Z, Gettoboys R cool.

Most rap sux tho.

NININININININININININININ


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Re: rap music [Re: blowback]
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I would suggest Kanye West his instrumentals are insane!

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Re: rap music [Re: lilgreenmen]
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fuck mainsteram rap.. go for the good stuff

Del The Funky HomoSapien
Gza (Liquid Sowrds)
Souls of Mischief
Hieroglypics
Dangermouse (Grey Album)
Digable Planets (Blowout Comb)
Dr. Octagon (aka cool keith, get dr octagonacologist)
Atmosphere
Qbert & Mixmaster Mike
Mos Def
Talib Queli
Black Star (Mos and Talib together)
Digital UnderGround (Sex Packets... that's a fun lil' album)

and of course

DJ SHADOW (Entroducing)... although there are no real vocals

In the words of CHUCK D... RAP is not music... RAP is a verb.. it's something you do .. "HIP HOP" is the genre. That's like calling the rock and roll genre "sing" and the punk genre "scream".



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1,2,3... It's kind of dangerous to be an MC... they shot tupac and BiggiiEEEE>. too much violence in hip hop.. why oH!

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Re: rap music [Re: BrAiN]
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vast aire, el-p, rob sonic, king geedorah, victor vaughan, diverse,
madvillian, beans, airborn audio, common, murs, oh no, wildchild . . .

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Re: rap music [Re: gema]
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You guys suck!  50 cent?!?! :puke:

Its all about Wu Tang!  Wu Tang is the greatest!  The two disc forever album is the greatest rap cd of all time imo.  I cant believe the only one to mention them is Doctor J.... 

Cypress hill is fun to listen to, as well as the chronic and doggystyle (of course).  Busta Rhyms-When Disaster Strikes is also a fun album.

Wu Tang Forever Mutha Fuckas!!!

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Re: rap music [Re: 0toxic0]
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my favorite hiphop album of all time is the Black Star album. here is the info: http://www.discogs.com/release/119096

go find it
listen
and you'll know.

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Re: rap music [Re: abhi]
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aje said:
all rap supporters should get a smack in the face.  rap sucks.  rap isnt music.  rap doesnt take skill, it takes money, attitude, and the ability to wave your hands.  you cant spell crap without rap.  dont listen to rap, listen to something artful that takes skill to make.   


:rolleyes: :shake:

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Re: rap music [Re: Vvellum]
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i dont like a lot of rap, but i have some mos def, jay-z, and older eminem that I really like. I don't have time to dig through all the garbage anymore, there are many other genres that have much higher rates of worthwhile popular artists.

mainstream rap is as good as devil-preachery. you might as well tell people barely getting by is all you need to do in life, cuz some of the rap they play on the radio is so fucking bad i want to kill myself.


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Re: rap music [Re: kake]
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I don't know the old school shit because I only heard what my druggie friends told me I would like.

The same people who say hip hop sucks today are the same people who were attacking Jazz 70 years ago.  :mad:  Hip-hop music is here to stay.  Because it allows more ideas then regular lyrics, it allows a lot of creativity.  Because it is really innovative, it allows bridges between several different art forms, like poetry and music, drumming and spoken word, stream of consciousness and sound, that normal lyrics don't cover.  This expands the amount of ground a creative artist can cover.  :thumbup: 

Yeah, a lot of rap music is really really bad.  A lot of any genre is really really bad.  So, rather then get stuck in one genre, where you are gaurenteed to get some shit, you take the best stuff from each genre, and get only good music.  There is good rap music. 

The trick is to find the guys in each genre who do a lot of psychedelics.  These guys are gonna be the good ones.  In rap, psychedelics are uncommon, so you have to go underground to get the guys into psychedelics.  They are way good.

Some not mentioned:

Eyedea and Abilities (start by d/l 'Even Shadows Have Shadows' and then get the Oliver Hart Album The many faces of Oliver Hart)
Aesop Rock (start by D/l "The greatest Pac-Man Victory in History", his tribute to LSD, and proceed to Float or Labor days)
El-P (Direct intellectual link between hip-hop and jazz, great stuff)
Mr. Lif (good politics)

I would have to say Aesop Rock is the best one I have heard.  Some people say his stuff doesn't really count as rap, because it's so impressionistic and dadist and complex.  It's good though.  Get some.


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Re: rap music [Re: Vvellum]
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bi0 said:
my favorite hiphop album of all time is the Black Star album. here is the info: http://www.discogs.com/release/119096

go find it
listen
and you'll know.


amen.. black star rules

I love the song, respiration... its fuckin poetry

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Re: rap music [Re: BrAiN]
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Thieves In The Night is my favorite :thumbup:

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Re: rap music [Re: Vvellum]
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Thieves in the Night is a good song :smile:


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Re: rap music [Re: 0toxic0]
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50 CENT!!!!!!!....sigh.

Dose One (schitzo penetratin through darkness type shit)
ShapeShifterS (LA psy-space funky shit)
Genelec & Memphis Reignz (moltov cocktail shit)
M.I.A. (shri-lankan female mc)
Meaty Ogre (chicago instrumentalyst with good mcs)
Mel Gibson & The Pants (outkast meets radiohead)
Busdriver (off-thewall wordplay)
Abstract Rude (melodica)
Aceyalone (classic intellegent)
Sole (the revolutionary evolutionist, kinda angry)
Themselves (Dose One & Jel, stupendous schitzo)
Why? (anticon indie-rapper)
Angles With Dirty Faces (simple funky shit)
Alias (intake ambiance)
Awol One (drunkard rhymstyle)
Black Star (mos def & talib)
Circus (shapeshifter, nuts)
Cosmocean (liquid ocean cosmis)
Diplo (newyorker newstyle)
Tribe Called Quest (classssicc)
Ellay Khule (quasi-gangsta with hidden messages)
Illogic (celestial)
Denizen Kane (chicagian, down with meaty ogre)
Leaders of the New School (old busta rhymes, his first group)
Orko (psychadelic post-apocalyptic drumnbassey subwoofer shit)
Odessa Kane (similar vein as Orko)
Qwel (crazy wordplay, chi-town mc)
Rob Sonic (funky party tracks)
Restiform bodies (nerd rap at its most direct incarnation)


if ya cant find some good stuff in here, i pity your music taste. this is leaving out all the awesome purely instrumental stuff too. hope ya enjoy


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Re: rap music [Re: KackleDude]
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i cannot believe that i'm in the shroomery and not one person contributing to this thread has mentioned DILATED PEOPLES!


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Re: rap music [Re: batou]
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i dunno what to even post in this thread


not everyone can relate to each and every single piece of art laid on the table. some people think pollock is a genius while others think he's a phony and a piece of shit. some people think rembrant is fantastic while others think he's fucking boring and noncreative. some people think escher is on another level while others simply say its all technical drawing and nothing more. needless to say, theyre all on a different format, no?

people have different tastes. some people dont like certain things, some do. i'd have to say i disagee with alot of the posts in this thread on both sides. there are about a billion arguments i could go either way about, pro and anti-"rap". however, i could write an entire book about this shit and don't even wanna go into it. there's so much to cover.


you can't hate on those who have disdain for our beloved artform. it's most likely people who dont appreciate it haven't experienced the true essence of hiphop. when they think hiphop, they probally think of the SHIT they see on television.

true artists will always touch us through music, no matter what the genre is.


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