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Substrate Question
    #407784 - 09/28/01 06:14 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I've tried cultivation before with birdseed but I didn't have a PC and blah blah blah it didn't work. Dandy, I'm ready to try again, got an Equador syringe, and I'm looking for a good substrate. I can't find BRF for the life of me. I've found whole BR but its never organic and what not. What else can I use? Can I use the whole BR that I found in a local Grocery store?? Is there a certain brand of birdseed or something that a Super Wal-Mart would carry that I can use the boil sterilization with? Peace to you and all you love. Thanks in advance to any replies.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: scribbles]
    #407880 - 09/28/01 08:42 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Well, you ought to be able to find BRF at most grocery stores - check out the health food section. You could also just go to a health food store and ask for it by name. Alternatively, you could take the whole brown rice (I'm told short-grain is better than long-grain, but both will work) and grind it up in a coffee grinder or (if you're back in the stone age) use a mortar and pestle.
Frankly, though, I've used both TEKs and I find the finch seed to be a far superior substrate. I use Ryche's finch seed tek with the added BRF and flax seed meal. I'm also doing experiments with adding other stuff to the finch seed. Do yourself a favor and go get an inexpensive pressure cooker - you don't need the $120 variety. Check out Ebay.com.

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Re: Substrate Question [Re: FanaTEK]
    #408384 - 09/29/01 02:52 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Well riight now I can't swing a PC, although one of my friends might be able to give me one. Is it possible to use birdseed without a PC, just boil sterilize?

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Re: Substrate Question [Re: scribbles]
    #408385 - 09/29/01 02:59 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Dont worry if the brown rice says organic or not. That is only a reference to what the rice was feed when it was grown. Most any liberal hippy (*ahem*) prefers to advoid man made chemicals that can harm the earth... One example of a popular chemical fertilizer is MericleGrow... Best on our enviroment to advoid them.. But the 'shrooms will never know the diference.

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Re: Substrate Question [Re: scribbles]
    #408386 - 09/29/01 03:00 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

I belive birdseed and other seeds must be PC. Boiling just doesnt cut it! I dont have a PC either, might have to invest in one soon.



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Re: Substrate Question [Re: scribbles]
    #408791 - 09/29/01 11:48 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Well, there's always room for experimentation. Some of the jars might survive, but you'd probably be better off spending the money on either materials for a boilable substrate (like BRF/Verm) or a PC. If you plan on doing this more than once, invest in the pressure cooker.

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Re: Substrate Question [Re: scribbles]
    #408795 - 09/29/01 11:52 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

absolutly not possible to use bird seed in ordinary boiling pot regardless of cooking time.



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Re: Substrate Question [Re: tchyted]
    #409381 - 09/30/01 04:54 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Is there anything I can add that a normal store might have to make the substrate more nutritious? The ShroomWizard guide suggests using natural honey for dextrose.

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Re: Substrate Question [Re: scribbles]
    #409450 - 09/30/01 06:01 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

you may find dextrose under a common name- "corn sugar." a store with a nice baking section (?) might have it, though ive only seen it in brewing shops (only looked there).



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