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Re: Living Off the Grid - Project Conception/Ideas [Re: Anonymous]
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Yeah, there are a few things that could be improved upon. Overall it's pretty fucking sound though.

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Re: Living Off the Grid - Project Conception/Ideas [Re: trendal]
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I didn't see anything about the actual structure. May I suggest going dome?

Some info:
http://www.monolithic.com/thedome/thedome/index.html


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Throughout history, the dome has been the architectural form of choice wherever efficiency and strength are required of a structure. From the simple igloo that shelters the Arctic hunter throughout the ravages of a blinding storm, to the awe-inspiring magnificence of the Sistine Chapel, the dome has been used in every culture, on every continent, as one of man's most versatile buildings.

Today, the modern construction techniques and materials reinforce the dome's position as the most classically versatile of all structures. The insulated concrete dome is the ideal solution wherever strength combined with low construction and maintenance costs are called for. Compared to other types of structures, the dome encloses more volume with the greatest floor area, and the least amount of surface area and perimeter. Superbly energy-efficient, firesafe, and with an inherent strength that enables it to withstand whatever nature throws at it--hurricanes, earthquakes, even tornadoes. It is no wonder that the modern concrete dome is experiencing a surge of popularity throughout the world.

Dealing with the unpredictability of weather is rarely a factor in dome construction. Since most of the construction process takes place under the sheltering umbrella of an inflated form, work goes on regardless of the weather. Dome construction is rapid and cost-efficient compared to other construction techniques. Modern insulated concrete dome construction combines several materials to create a strong, efficient, weather-proof structure. Compared to other types of structures for the same application, the insulated concrete dome is 50-75% more energy-efficient.





http://midwest.fws.gov/ashland/mtan/mtan...n%20Aquaculture


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Re: Living Off the Grid - Project Conception/Ideas [Re: Shroomism]
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Great idea! Ive been looking into this for awhile and will have one built soon.If no one minds ill post these pics. :thumbup: :smile:







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Re: Living Off the Grid - Stage 1: Project Conception/Ideas [Re: trendal]
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I've started experimenting with papercrete. I have a small slab that has been drying in the bathroom for a few days now.

It has hardened up fairly well. I could see building a house out of this stuff, you would just have to protect it from moisture.

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Re: Living Off the Grid - Stage 1: Project Conception/Ideas [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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im tired adn cant get into this thread yet, but think about roots. they will demolish many types of "eco concrete" type things. underground housing and "papercrete" stuff i can only assume would lead to bad news....perhaps killing the trees by the house would be an idea?

we used gravity for our water before, and it is really the best way environmentally speaking. but we, 2 adults, need more water than what rained so we had to get a pump and pump water up to the container. now we have it on the ground for convenience.


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Re: Living Off the Grid - Project Conception/Ideas [Re: Cosm]
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I believe I had earlier suggested "The Farm", especially to paradis, as it is in his home state.

Here's a some pics from fall 2 years ago. Note that most if not all of the pictured were still under construction.

Geodesic Dome




Straw Insulated Cabin





Mud/Straw House








Functional/decorative Outdoors



A Finished Roof


A really cheap "Hippy Shanty"


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Re: Living Off the Grid - Stage 1: Project Conception/Ideas [Re: kadakuda]
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I wasn't planning on making a papercrete foundation, just a dome. Probably with a concrete foundation.

I wouldn't try using papercrete below ground level at all as part of the house. I would think it could make a functional bookshelf or other internal structures.

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Re: Living Off the Grid - Stage 1: Project Conception/Ideas [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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oh ya i agree. i would personally want a concrete foundation as well. but am fairly ignorant to all tehse cob and similar style things. they just seem likely candidates for underground failure.

i got my savings acount setup, im saving up for some acreage...i will probably just be moving a small cheap house or trailer onto it and then slowly as tiem goes on and money comes in build my own eco friendly dwelling. this thread is pretty cool, cant wait to see more ideas.


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Re: Living Off the Grid - Stage 1: Project Conception/Ideas [Re: kadakuda]
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givin a little more thought about locaction.  undergound is a good idea but perhaps thinking of a cliff side would be beneficial.  im think of facing it towards sun and have a whole side exposed with the back and partial sides underground rather than the whole bottom. 

few reasons.  first it will not insulate withe the exposed part as well.  but you will have the sun.  second, rain.  underground flooding would be a big thinker.  on a slope, espcially if you could design with bed rock, you can easily avoid flooding....cheap.  also larger plants are less likely to plague you with roots. 

i had better reason but i cant fricken remember them :frown:  and when i say on a slop i mean at the base or somewhere where its flat to put the house, but the rock behind still goes down...if that makes any sense.


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Re: Living Off the Grid - Stage 1: Project Conception/Ideas [Re: kadakuda]
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If you are on a sloap you may also have the option of using water for power with a small turbine.


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Living Off the Grid - Stage 1: Project Conception/Ideas [Re: trendal]
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if your so lucky to have a stream.  or do you mean make a collection thing and channel it through a generator?

i was talking to my dad this weekend about this stuff and he was telling me of all sorts of these types of things around here and on the golf islands.  i never knew.  he's been hassled lots from various inspectors and such so he's starting to get into living off the grid so he can jsut say fuck off and not worry about having power cut off.  this move he took has taken him 1.5 years and cost 40k in inspection fees, permits, lawyers, taxes and all taht shit.  to nothing.  and it was a $110,000 peice of property.  i am seriously considering never buying property in bc now.  he has been shafted so hard, and jsut wants to live out his retirment on his land.  fucking pisses me off.  anyway :smile:  ya water down a hill be good :grin:


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Re: Living Off the Grid - Stage 1: Project Conception/Ideas [Re: kadakuda]
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*slope :smile:

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Re: Living Off the Grid - Stage 1: Project Conception/Ideas [Re: debianlinux]
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bump

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Re: Living Off the Grid - Stage 1: Project Conception/Ideas [Re: Anonymous]
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i am really quite surprised that no one has mentioned http://earthshelter.com/


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At last you know what the ineffable is and what ecstasy means. Ecstasy! The mind harks back to the origin of that word. For the Greeks ekstasis meant the flight of the soul from the body. Can you find a better word than that to describe the beshroomed state? In common parlance, among the many who have not experienced ecstasy, ecstasy is fun, and I am frequently asked why I do not reach for mushrooms every night. But ecstasy is not fun. Your very soul is seized and shaken until it tingles. After all, who will chose to feel undiluted awe, or to float through that door yonder into the Divine presence? - 1961 Wasson Botanical Museum Leaflets, 19: 137.

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