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The Global Consciousness Project
    #3772557 - 02/13/05 01:45 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Here is something crazy I just read. A project at Princeton University has created a series of random number generator machine that are linked globally by a network. Apparently they have noticed a phenomena that occurs when people focus on one of these devices. The machine generates a one and a zero in timed intervals. Probability dictates that it will generate even amounts of both creating a flatline graph. They have found situations where when a number of people are focusing attention on the machine, it deviates from the flatline status. When these devices are linked globally the graph jumps off the chart just BEFORE or during a huge traumatic global event. Example: Four hours before 9/11 it jumped as it also did just before the Asian tsunami. This is a machine that should never deviate from it's baseline. Strict scientific method has been observed, and the scientists say that they would love to find their errors to explain the phenomenon, but they say for now they are clueless. Check it out it is an interesting read:
http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=126649#121
Here is a direct link to download the raw data as well:
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/independent.html
Also a realtime display of the current output:
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/bsktobsrv/basketobserver.wall.html

The entire premise behind the Global Consciousness Project is that the Noosphere [www.wikipedia.org] exists, and that, when a large amount of people are focused on the same thing it effects things in ways that are difficult to measure. There are dozens of these eggs (64) all around the world returning truly random data to the princeton server, which is inside a special casing to protect it from any extraneous waves/radiation/youname it. Their data purport, and indeed seem, to show that during times when many people are focused on the same thing, this random data is suddenly "less random". This typically means that when people start hearing about a globally impacting event on the news, the data becomes less random. Using current methods it is impossible to prove that this is what they are measuring. But the data goes to show that they are measuring something.


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Re: The Global Consciousness Project [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3773302 - 02/13/05 07:33 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

nice post, definetly something interesting.


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Re: The Global Consciousness Project [Re: BanJankri]
    #3773818 - 02/13/05 12:37 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I would love to see someone debunk this. Come on Swami where are you? On the second link there are animated graphs that show very interesting results. This whole thing blows my mind. I really don't understand how the hell this could work...but it does.


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Re: The Global Consciousness Project [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3773860 - 02/13/05 12:56 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Example: Four hours before 9/11 it jumped

Here we have the standard fallacy of ad hoc linking. Find a "deviation" then link it to some event. The time window is as wide as need be to make some acausal "correlation".


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Re: The Global Consciousness Project [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3773900 - 02/13/05 01:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
Their data purport, and indeed seem, to show that during times when many people are focused on the same thing, this random data is suddenly "less random". This typically means that when people start hearing about a globally impacting event on the news, the data becomes less random.






coupled with:



Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
. When these devices are linked globally the graph jumps off the chart just BEFORE or during a huge traumatic global event. Example: Four hours before 9/11 it jumped as it also did just before the Asian tsunami.




equates into me not getting it. If the machine goes insane when people are focusing on the same event, then why does it jump off of the chart before the event? :confused:

Perhaps I just misunderstand something about this... of course, I never clicked those links. :grin:

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Re: The Global Consciousness Project [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3773912 - 02/13/05 01:16 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

They are implying that that "possibly" on a global conciousness scale that events can be sensed befgore they occur I think. The first link to the article explains it quite well....I cannot. Being scientists they propose no explanation only data.


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Re: The Global Consciousness Project [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3773917 - 02/13/05 01:18 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

The entire RedNova article is chock-full of emotional wording and is as far from unbiased reporting as I have seen. The whole thing is NO DIFFERENT than McKenna's timewave: find some statistical anomaly THEN search the world for an event, then attempt to link them. This is not science.

As to the Noosphere, science generally works on observing (or extrapolating), then attempting to explain or understand it. The Noosphere is an idea based not on any apriori observation, but pure imagination, that some are attempting to validate. This is not science.


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Re: The Global Consciousness Project [Re: Swami]
    #3773922 - 02/13/05 01:21 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

If you examin the animated charts the spike starts four hours before 9/11 and peaks on 9/13 then rapidly declines. The charts of other events have a similar aspect. The Asian tsunami chart starts about 12 hours in advance. I see what you are saying, but for the fact that this a device that normally generates a flatline based on probability. I do not necessarily thing anything mystical is going on....but something IS going on it would seem. I posted this because it is the closest to seeing some paranormal phenomenon being seriously studied in a scientific manner that I have ever seen.


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Re: The Global Consciousness Project [Re: Swami]
    #3773933 - 02/13/05 01:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
The entire RedNova article is chock-full of emotional wording and is as far from unbiased reporting as I have seen. The whole thing is NO DIFFERENT than McKenna's timewave: find some statistical anomaly THEN search the world for an event, then attempt to link them. This is not science.

As to the Noosphere, science generally works on observing (or extrapolating), then attempting to explain or understand it. The Noosphere is an idea based not on any apriori observation, but pure imagination, that some are attempting to validate. This is not science.




now we are talking! and what is this? is this Spirituality and Philosophy?
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Re: The Global Consciousness Project [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3773951 - 02/13/05 01:34 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

*sigh*

They link it to a submarine that sank, hardly a world-changing event in either political or population terms. With some 6 billion people, there are many tragedies and deaths every single day and millions of "events" to choose from.

Real science entails predictability. This quackery is no more science then when I am at the casino and someone hits a big jackpot THEN looks for a "cause". "I was wearing my Dad's ring when that hit!"


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Re: The Global Consciousness Project [Re: Swami]
    #3774010 - 02/13/05 01:56 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Swami said:
*sigh*

They link it to a submarine that sank, hardly a world-changing event in either political or population terms. With some 6 billion people, there are many tragedies and deaths every single day and millions of "events" to choose from.

Real science entails predictability. This quackery is no more science then when I am at the casino and someone hits a big jackpot THEN looks for a "cause". "I was wearing my Dad's ring when that hit!"




why then.. have the thought occurred, it is not science? :P

I'm sure reading, Reply to (Spirituality and Philosophy)..
so it makes perfect sense as well?

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Re: The Global Consciousness Project [Re: Gomp]
    #3774497 - 02/13/05 04:42 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

"This quackery is no more science then when I am at the casino and someone hits a big jackpot THEN looks for a "cause". "I was wearing my Dad's ring when that hit!"

There is certain amount of truth to what you say. Last night I spent 3 hours looking at the data, and there seemed to be something going on. IF the data is not been tampered with I would state that there is something to it. I did also notice the article was emotionally worded...full of obvious hope, but the researchers did not write it...a writer did. I am not going to defend it as absolute truth because every time I have read of science supporting the paranormal, I find later that the data was slanted by overly hopeful scientists. Like the Mindreach project. To understand my reference read the book Mind Reach. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...ks&n=507846
It was a huge hoax.


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Re: The Global Consciousness Project [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3775623 - 02/13/05 09:20 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Don't forget to read this analysis of the study;

http://noosphere.princeton.edu/papers/Sep1101.pdf

which does point out some problems with it.


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