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Daft420
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Burned rye and other problems

#370583 - 08/12/01 08:46 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Well, I'm trying to use rye grain for the first time and I can't even get past the pressure cooking part without messing something up. I followed this tek and after 24 hours, some of the grain itself had germinated! I had little green shoots coming out of the top layer of kernels. Some other stuff germinated too as the jars started giving off a pleasant sour-yogurt smell. Anyway, I went ahead and pressure cooked them for 60 minutes after the metal thing started jiggling (at 15 PSI) and they came out looking very, very much darker brown than when they went in and had developed a somewhat burned smell, though to tell you the truth it actually smelled kind of like the white cheese powder that comes with Annie's Mac & Cheese... As to what that smell is, damned if I know.

Figuring I had just burned the hell out of my rye, I tried again using only 45 minutes, which caused the jars to not be sterilized all the way as they now have a stinky bacteria smell.

Anyway, just wondering if anyone had any idea what I'm doing wrong. Are the jars supposed to smell like cheddar macaroni and cheese?!

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Daft

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Re: Burned rye and other problems

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#370781 - 08/12/01 07:30 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

If you presoak, do it for at most 12 hours.
Burned rye, hmm? Do you use water in your pressure cooker? do you use enough water in it? does the lid of your pressure cooker seals so only very little water vapor escapes the cooker?

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Re: Burned rye and other problems

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#370916 - 08/13/01 01:50 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Yes; yes as far as I know (there was still water in it when it had cooled so I assume I had enough..); and yes (the only steam escaping comes out from underneath the control jiggler thing).

It makes me wonder if my pressure cooker is getting too hot, or the pressure is getting too high, even with a reasonable amount of water, etc. Not too long before the rye experiment I put a batch of 6 PF jars in and PCd those for only 20 (from when the control started jiggling) and they came out fried to the point of blackened-rice-and-cake-hard-as-a-rock-ness.

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#371040 - 08/13/01 09:27 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Do you use a spacer so the jars don?t sit directly on the bottom of the cooker?

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#371168 - 08/13/01 02:57 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Yea, 4 layers of paper towel. Now that you mention it, that might be the problem... once the paper towels get wet they expand some and it seems like adequate padding, but hmm...

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#371299 - 08/13/01 07:19 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

You should deffinitely use the spacer that came along with the PC. If you don?t have it, get one or make one. this will hold the jars app 1/4 in over the bottom, so no direct contact with the botton is assured.

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#371327 - 08/13/01 10:43 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Another suggestion: place the dry rye berries in a bowl. Boil some water and then fill the bowl with the boiling water. Allow to sit for 24 hours to get the optimal amount of water into the berries. Then pressure cook.

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