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OfflineRazman
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waking life -- "HOLY MOMENT?"
    #3668070 - 01/23/05 04:09 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i watched the movie waking life and i didnt understand the talk of the "holy moment".. i havnt gotten the chance to watch it again and im just wondering what the hell that was all about..

anyone know?


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hear (feel) with your eyes. see with your ears? [Re: Razman]
    #3668795 - 01/23/05 06:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: hear (feel) with your eyes. see with your ears? [Re: dorkus]
    #3668986 - 01/23/05 07:30 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Each moment has the potential to feel just about anyway there is to feel, right? So maybe they were talking about moments that felt Holy, relative to the moments around them.


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Re: hear (feel) with your eyes. see with your ears? [Re: chunder]
    #3669020 - 01/23/05 07:41 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

there was also a philosophy discussed about the evolution of humans.. this guy that looked like his head was made of jello started talking of a "telescopic" affect with evolution. if you look at evolution of the human species, the acceleration of advancement increases.. eg. the industrial revolution, and then the information age.. he then predicted that this telescopic affect will further widen, and we will become a completely loyal, trustworthy, non-competent species capable of absolute control of our universe.. our instincts will become obsolete because we dont need them anymore..

anyone else think this is kind of bullshit? from what i see, this telescopic affect isnt due to evolution of our brain.. instead its a result of information.. the romans were great engineers, the only thing that stopped them from making cities like ours is the fact that they didnt have the information obtained from previous generations of research like we do...

then i read stuff on here about evolving to the point where we can interact with the fourth dimension.. well isnt evolution pretty fucking slow?? i mean it takes thousands of years.. fundamentally we're no smarter than the greeks.. we just have more information..


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Re: hear (feel) with your eyes. see with your ears? [Re: Razman]
    #3669119 - 01/23/05 08:03 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The telescopic effect seems to be happening on a universal scale, rather than just a human thing, but we have come further in the last 100 years than all time previous put together.
We have only had the internet for around 10-15 years, and I also believe the availability of information falls under the category of advancement, for far more people will become smarter as information becomes readily available.

Combine that with the segment where the couple laying in bed were discussing
how, knowledge just seems to flow, went something like this:
"Someone will figure something out, then all of a sudden almost at the same time someone else halfway across the world will figure out the same thing"

and you have yourself a seemingly telescopic effect.

The movie itself though, seems more about transcendence than about the individual segments within it...

You have to watch it many many times before you can even start to understand some of the shit that goes on in it.

The movie is one of, if not the most thought provoking movies I have ever seen, it doesn't matter if anything they said was true, because it still made me think, and that's what it's all about.

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Edited by TeKn0 (01/23/05 08:36 PM)


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Re: hear (feel) with your eyes. see with your ears? [Re: TeKn0]
    #3669455 - 01/23/05 09:38 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

good movie, glad others have seen it too...


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Re: hear (feel) with your eyes. see with your ears? [Re: FungusmaximusFM]
    #3670930 - 01/24/05 04:09 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Holy Moment? It can't really be explained, only rememebered, recognized, experienced. Maybe it's about recognizing that "mundane" existance is intensely holy, not just churches and rituals and bullshit.


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