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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: looner2]
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I didn't really screw myself by letting the dog sniff my car. I vindicated myself of the first officers accusations that my car smelled of marijuana.

It clearly proved that he was mistaken.


Also asking why I was being detained would have been a pretty stupid question considering that he was writing me a ticket the whole time after the K9 got there.


This whole process took less than 10 minutes. I really didn't have time to complain about being detained.


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Edited by Baby_Hitler (12/11/04 02:47 PM)

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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Sounds like you did acted fine.

Just get your tags fixed.

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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: phi1618]
    #3481721 -

Yes cup.


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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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In case you aren't familiar with Shroomism's story, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH US, and I mean EXACTLY. Except of course, when HE got searched they found a bowl, a few grams of weed, and some flexorals.

The pig pulled us over supposedly because of our tag, it was a temporary tag but it was Ares' vehicle indeed. That definately wasn't the purpose of the stop though, as we soon came to find out. The pig pulled us all out within 2 minutes and searched us, saying he "smelt marijuana".


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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Adamist]
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Also get this, when the pig was searching Shroomism he left his car keys, wallet and other personal items on the hood of the van. He didn't give a fuck either, he just cuffed him and left them there.
It was only until we were down the road at my house that I noticed that they were STILL on the hood, somehow. If we had driven any further they would have surely gotten blown off somewhere and gotten lost. :thumbdown:

Fuck the United Police States.


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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Adamist]
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If the cops think crack and methamphetamine are dangerous drugs, they better hope we never get addicted to righteous indignation.


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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Quote:
I didn't really screw myself by letting the dog sniff my car. I vindicated myself of the first officers accusations that my car smelled of marijuana.

It clearly proved that he was mistaken.






You vindicating yourself isn't the point. The point is is that you shouldn't have concented to anything.






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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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If the cops think crack and methamphetamine are dangerous drugs, they better hope we never get addicted to righteous indignation.


Thanks to things like TV and drugs such as mentioned above, they'll never have to worry about that. :smirk:

Complacent sheep nation- one nation under control.


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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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what's the story with shroomism? if they didn't have a warrant, how can they use the evidence they found on him? unless probable cause, i.e. lying about smelling pot, was enough for a legal search....damn, florida sucks

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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Hendostan]
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Fuck yeah Florida sucks. I got the hell out of that shit hole. I hope Shroomism makes it out soon as well...
He's still down there trying to straighten that shit out.


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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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You need to report this to his department, in form of a signed and notarized letter.  Each time something like this happens lessens the possibility of him being able to do it in the future. Lets say that he pulls over another stinky hippie( :smile: ) and says he "smells marijuana".  If this hippie has the cron with him, but the cop has pulled over 1500 people before and said that and found nothing on a search, they'd have to question his efficacy at this technique.  I've had friends pull the report on canine units before and show how ineffective that particular dog was. One dog was wrong over 80% of the time with his indications!

do everything you can to fuck with the cop.  If you call around to lawyers, you'll find one that hates cops too, and he might tell you what to do just to help you fuck the fucking pigs.


Of course, in a "war" on drugs, you'd think that we could legally shoot armed, uniformed warriors who wear insignia, but sadly I think you'd be just geting in more trouble.


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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: SoopaX]
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A war where it's illegal to fight back... how conveinent for them! :grin:


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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Adamist]
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Yea. According to the Geneva Convention they can't try someone for participating in a war. Of course, as dealers and users aren't wearing open firearms, insignia, uniforms and odn't have a command structuer, thats not applicable.


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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Hendostan]
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Hendostan said:
what's the story with shroomism? if they didn't have a warrant, how can they use the evidence they found on him? unless probable cause, i.e. lying about smelling pot, was enough for a legal search....damn, florida sucks


Yep, cops everywhere will lie if they can get away with it and it gets them something. Trust me, I know...

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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Le_Canard]
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Check with geezemeister over here http://www.wetdreams.ws/forum/default.asp


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Edited by Great_Satan (12/11/04 10:36 PM)

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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Well the problem is that you had bad plates.  That gave them a reason to stop and question you.  The dog search is allowable if you consent (which you should if dont have anything illegal) and they dont need any cause except to justify the use of manpower with thier bosses.  Unfortunatly, everything here was legal and you need to fix those plates because that is actually a pretty serious issue.  I know this isnt what you were looking for but I hope this helps.  :heart:

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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Catalysis]
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You guys should take up money for me to pay the sales tax on my car and transfer the tags.


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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Catalysis]
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Quote:
The dog search is allowable if you consent (which you should if dont have anything illegal)



No you shouldn't. I never consent to anything, whether I have anything or not. If it's only the people with possession of drugs that use their constitutional rights, then this will not be a good thing


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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Ravus]
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You don't have to consent to anything for him to get the K-9 to sniff around. All he needs is suspicion to detain you, not probable cause. Probable cause is needed for a search of the vehicles interior, but not your immediate person. He can pat you down, outside the clothing, legally. If he feels something in your pocket or whatever that he can reasonably assume to be a weapon or some kind of contraband, he can then go inside your pockets or ask you to empty them, take your shoes/socks off, or whatever. The Supreme Court has ruled that smelling a substance is not probable cause because smell is a subjective sense. He was within his rights to keep you there while the dogs came. At that point, he didn't need your permission to let the dog sniff, because that is not considered an unreasonable search by law. If the dog alerts him to the presence of contraband, he then has probable cause and needs no permission from you. If the dog smells nothing, he has nothing, and cannot proceed with the search. The only other way he can have probable cause is if you have been being watched for some time and they know for a fact you are carrying drugs, or if you have something like drugs or paraphanelia in plain sight. Anything in plain sight constitutes probable cause, obviously. The cop was a dickhead, but within his rights, except for reaching in your pockets. That is grounds for a formal complaint, but don't expect anything to come of it. Never consent to a search. Assert your rights and most importantly, study the law. Not just what you hear from others, the actual law. It will help you out often.


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Re: Got hassled by cops. Need to know what corrective action I should take as an American. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Baby_Hitler said:
You guys should take up money for me to pay the sales tax on my car and transfer the tags.


Free Baby Hitler's tags.







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