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What is Ego Loss
    #3052024 - 08/26/04 05:42 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Im seeing this word being used everywhere but i dont think I understand what it means. Sorry if this is a dumb question, its just bugging me that i cant figure it out. And what does it feel like?


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
    #3052146 - 08/26/04 07:41 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

It is exactly what it says, a loss of your ego. Its hard to describe, but basically you will start to question who/what you are and you will feel detatched from your physical representation in the real world. Beleive me, you will know when it happens. I had already experienced it before I read or knew anything about it which made it seem quite troublesome and stuck with me for a little while until I found my feet again. Looking back at it I think it was a learning process and now I'm past that stage I don't think it will ever bother me again....


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
    #3052802 - 08/26/04 12:12 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

To me, ego loss is complete and total loss of the recollection that you exist. It was pure experience without judgement because there was no "me" there to judge.

I'm not sure if that makes any sense to you, but that's the best way I can think of to describe it. I can see how it would be unsettling to some, but I too was unprepared for it and it was likely one of the most positive experiences of my life.


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
    #3053030 - 08/26/04 01:05 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

It is the complete loss of sense of self. You will have no concept of "you" anymore. Everything exists as a whole, as one part.

When you think "me" "I" "myself" etc. you are thinking of your ego. Imagine what you would be like if all consciousness remained minus the capacity to think of yourself as a thing seperate from the world around you.


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: myndreach]
    #3053200 - 08/26/04 01:46 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

wow...sounds intense


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: myndreach]
    #3053833 - 08/26/04 04:24 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

myndreach knows :heart:

but i think it would be better for you to first know what an ego is, before you are told what being without one is like.  Spiritually defining the ego, our egos give us our sense of self, our egos are the reason we think we hold seperateness.  but that is living a lie, being controlled by the ego.  which would be living in an illusion.  Things are not what they seem in life.  Time doesnt exsist and is created by the ego.  Space does not exsist either, we are not even the smallest unit of measurement apart from each other.  we are all truly one.  Also, fear stems from our ego.  We do not naturally know fear, but while in a body with an ego, we have to deal with tricks of the ego. 

without an ego, all you are left with is joy, because you are only left with your spirit.  and that is, love! you are pure love! without an ego blinding you from this truth, you will feel it for yourself.  feeling it is beyond words.  love is all there is.  love is reality.  nothing else is real, only love.  those that simply dont remember this right now, will when they are ready.


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
    #3054216 - 08/26/04 05:58 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I heard this mentioned earlier, and as I don't have much to add, I'll just reinforce:

If you ever slip into this state, your going to experience something that I couldn't even label as "terror" so to speak. Thats the only feeling that comes to mind when it happens, but it's something so much deeper that we'll never be able to understand.

But, despite it all, remember: Love. Love. Love. I don't know why, I havent yet been able to figure out why it's so important, but the only thing my mind grasped when this feeling struck me was love, and I held onto it, and I made it thru.

Good luck, don't worry about getting to this state because it will hit you so suddenly and you won't understand what it is until your able to comprehend the trip (possibly when coming down or later).


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
    #3054327 - 08/26/04 06:34 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I have a question. I've experienced ego loss once on a shroom / salvia extract combo, and, although it was the most far out thing I've ever experienced, I was scared.
I dearly want to return to this place. It's fantastic. Will I be scared next time, or will there be a sense of familiarity? Does it get easier to let go?
When I lost my self before, I was part of the fabric of the universe, and everything was made of it.


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
    #3054382 - 08/26/04 06:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I think that it is a misnomer
closer to ego dystonia
a disruption in the force.
an extremely unfamiliar and unsettling intensity of entheogenation.
so little is understood about ego
and so little is understood about entheogen
no wonder the two are coupled in this term.
that and validation of a misnomer from pop buddhism in the 60's.
I prefer using a more standard measure.
can you remember anything - no? - ok that's amnesia.


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Loosifa]
    #3054522 - 08/26/04 07:36 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

When I lost my self before, I was part of the fabric of the universe, and everything was made of it. 




this 'fabric', is love.  :laugh: :heart:


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: ]
    #3054635 - 08/26/04 07:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

thats a cool concept, kottonmouth!  It felt extremely friendly and unified, a good place.  So overwhelming!  I wanna go again!! :twirlyface:


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
    #3056296 - 08/27/04 02:13 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

This thread is a pretty good one, seems a shame to let it go really, I think some people have really touched upon that killer way to explain ego loss.


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: utopianglory]
    #3056488 - 08/27/04 03:08 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i would be posting but I haven't experienced it yet....unless you call ego loss  laying on a table in the middle of the night in a school thinking im a car, not being able to move because im bolted down.  I I just call that being fucked up.

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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
    #3056496 - 08/27/04 03:10 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

BTW...if this post dies..ill bring it back the day i experiance ego loss. :smile:


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
    #3056684 - 08/27/04 03:56 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Toddo said:
BTW...if this post dies..ill bring it back the day i experiance ego loss. :smile:




sounds good toddo  :grin:  :mushroom2:  :sun:  :heart:


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
    #3057690 - 08/27/04 12:54 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

EGO LOSS,  When you can feel and fully understand the true meaning of sorrow. Becasue it is thru sorrow we have no choice but to ignore our own self and focus on the needs of others. Somtimes our sorrow is a direct result from our very point of Ego. You hurt a loved one by selfish means,Ego flex, which tranfers you to sorrow,Ego loss.

  The best types of leaders, have command and ability to be "In the mode of Ego Loss" at will. For to to a leader is to be the servant.

Ego Loss is the total submission to others.........
And a realization that you are completley nothing in the greater picture.You are minerals and space junk

EGO LOSS IS
To come to grips with the fact that life is service with no rewards to be expected

The true wealth of man can be found thru Ego Loss
A man  at the end of his life is not judged how rich he is by money but by how many people show up at his funeral.

If you can master real ego loss and live that life than you will be one of the greatest people in the entire history of Earth. :smile:


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: ]
    #3058831 - 08/27/04 05:43 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

everything was made of it

yes.

yes - nothing to do with ego. or loss.


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
    #3060014 - 08/27/04 11:25 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

After having so much experience with ego loss with the aid of DMT I can safely say that ego loss is when you're to the point that whatever stimulation your mind is observing - your mind does not associate what you see with what your mind knows. I've noticed that when you try to slow down to put words to what you're feeling (that requires your ego) than you are entered into a third bardo mindset (rebirth of the ego) and it brings you down. Another thing about the tibetan book of the dead is reincarnation is meant to be applied to death of the ego not death of the body. And every time you smoke a high enough dose of DMT your ego will be shattered/killed/ or put to sleep for a few minutes - that's why you must not be attached to your ego or you will die with it and be reborn rather than be liberated from the ego into a state of nirvana. You must control the set and setting as much as you can without trying to influence the trip during the trip - that's when you sit back and - i'd say loose control, but you really have to focus to pay attention.. my 2 cents


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: psychopsilocyber]
    #3060080 - 08/27/04 11:39 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

'I've noticed that when you try to slow down to put words to what you're feeling (that requires your ego) than you are entered into a third bardo mindset (rebirth of the ego) and it brings you down'

So true. I think the ego exists only in language. Egoloss is moving into non-verbal reality and shutting down that little running commentary inside your head that tries to put everything into words. When you stop trying to analyse everything with language, your sense of self disappears, you become the experience instead of the experience happens to you, and your sense of time disappears as you move into the eternal now.


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Re: What is Ego Loss [Re: Toddo]
    #3062608 - 08/28/04 06:32 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

just had to give a warning if your going to dose high enough for ego loss avoid anywhere public,I was at a gas station at the peak of my loss and punched the glass out of the walls ripped the register out of the wall,cops came with worms coming out of there heads I was one with death,also one with a mental hospitol for 3 days.


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